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Mexican-Americans Seek Dual Citizenship [Immivasion Alert!]
AP ^ | 3/19/03 | MICHELLE MORGANTE

Posted on 03/19/2003 1:46:06 PM PST by Hoppean

SAN DIEGO (AP) - Maria Sanchez was proud to become a U.S. citizen in 1985, but it didn't completely erase the sense of loss she felt over having to give up her Mexican citizenship.

``I didn't feel I was a traitor by becoming American, but I was leaving a part of my life,'' the 47-year-old homecare provider recalled.

Sanchez, a native of the border town of Tecate, stood in line this week outside the Mexican Consulate with hundreds of others seeking to reclaim their Mexican nationality rights by a Thursday deadline and become dual U.S.-Mexican citizens.

``I feel good,'' she said. ``I'll feel like I belong there again.''

In March 1998, Mexican legislation took effect allowing Mexican-born citizens of other countries to reclaim rights that had been automatically renounced when they took on their new citizenship. The law also applied to anyone born outside Mexico, but whose mother or father was born in Mexico.

That law was good only for five years. A proposal to make the legislation permanent is being considered by Mexico's Congress but, just in case this is their last opportunity, Mexican-Americans across the country have rushed to turn in documents proving their heritage.

It doesn't affect their citizenship in this country. People who become citizens of other countries do not lose their U.S. citizenship unless they specifically renounce it.

In San Diego, requests for dual citizenship soared in recent weeks from about 25 a day to more than 400. Consulate workers set up desks outside under tents to attend to the crowd.

Similar numbers were seen in Chicago, where applicants have been lining up in the cold this week at 5 a.m. Applications also swelled from perhaps a dozen a month to dozens a day at consulates in Oregon, Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Florida, Colorado, New York and Massachusetts.

``They want to be Mexicans because they feel that it's part of them, even if they've been here all their lives,'' said Carlos Yescas of the Boston consulate office.

Dual citizenship also has tangible benefits: the ability to own property anywhere in Mexico, and legal status to live and work there with rights equal to those of any other citizen. The only restriction is that they cannot vote or hold political office.

Before 1998, many Mexicans were reluctant to became U.S. citizens because they feared losing real estate, inheritances or businesses in Mexico.

Census figures show about 7.8 million people who were born in Mexico lived in the United States in 2000. Of those, 1.6 million had become U.S. citizens. Overall, 21.7 million people were either from Mexico or of Mexican heritage - about two-thirds of the nation's 32.8 million Hispanics.

According to Mexico's Foreign Relations ministry, more than 30,000 people have completed the dual nationality process in the last three years. Figures for the first two years were not available.

The first U.S. citizen to receive Mexico's dual nationality status in 1998 was Enrique Morones, a San Diego native who runs a Hispanic marketing firm and hosts a daily radio show on Latino issues.

``I did it because I'm a Mexican and I'm proud of being a Mexican. ... But that doesn't mean I don't care for the United States,'' he said. ``I love both countries.''

In the line outside the San Diego consulate Tuesday, Los Angeles native Paul Rangel said he hopes dual citizenship will open business opportunities and allow him someday to buy property in Cancun.

``Patriotically, I consider myself a U.S. citizen, yet I'm also by blood somewhat a Mexican citizen,'' said Rangel, 23, a bank employee whose parents were born in northern Mexico.

Sanchez, the homecare provider who lives in El Cajon, said reclaiming her Mexican identity would correct a feeling she's ``from nowhere.''

Friends and relatives in Mexico have often told her ``Oh, you're not from here or there,'' she said. ``This way, I'm from both.''

On the Net:

Mexico's Foreign Relations ministry: http://www.sre.gob.mx/

03/19/03 15:19


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: citizenship; dualcitizens; immigrants; immigration; immivasion; ins; invasion; mexicans; mexico

1 posted on 03/19/2003 1:46:06 PM PST by Hoppean
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To: Hoppean
Census figures show about 7.8 million people who were born in Mexico lived in the United States in 2000

.Oh you bet!

Unregistered aliens flocked right over to the census taker. The rush to identify themselves was almost patriotic!

2 posted on 03/19/2003 1:56:47 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Hoppean
The concept of dual citizenship, itself, is ridiculous. Being a citizen is not like joining a private club. It requires a species of loyalty, which cannot be divided.

In this, I am not picking out the Mexicans in this article. The same remarks would apply to all--including such prominent folk as the Aussie press tycoon. Second only to dealing with the problem of mass immigration by persons incongrous to the American mainstream, we need to reevaluate the whole concept of citizenship.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

3 posted on 03/19/2003 2:30:04 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Hoppean
"Mexican-Americans Seek Dual Citizenship"

Dual-citizenship is unpatriotic.

I pledge allegiance to ONE flag, under God.
4 posted on 03/19/2003 2:32:43 PM PST by sigarms
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To: Hoppean
Great. I work with 20 mexicans. Most of whom I think have green cards. That translates to alot of federal money and free medical/dental care. This is a waste. Maybe they will all go home.
5 posted on 03/19/2003 2:35:35 PM PST by FloridaBoy
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To: FloridaBoy
Maybe they will all go home.

No ---they love US money too much for that.

7 posted on 03/19/2003 2:41:50 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Hoppean; Black Agnes; Regulator; Brownie74; glc1173@aol.com; A CA Guy; CoryLund; Bikers4Bush; ...
Well.......

The Oath of Citizenship

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God. In acknowledgement whereof I have hereunto affixed my signature.

Those who are chasing around trying to get dual citizenship with any country should be stripped of their U.S. citizenship. In the case of hostile countries like Mexico, they ought to be deported immediately.

8 posted on 03/19/2003 2:48:03 PM PST by Tancredo Fan
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To: Tancredo Fan
Would you consider dual citizenship if you needed it
to retain property rights in Mexico?
9 posted on 03/19/2003 2:52:21 PM PST by Fpimentel
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To: Fpimentel
Would you consider dual citizenship if you needed it to retain property rights in Mexico?

No. Under no circumstances should an American be allowed to hold dual citizenship without renouncing U.S. citizenship, especially if Mexico is involved.

10 posted on 03/19/2003 2:57:40 PM PST by Tancredo Fan
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To: Tancredo Fan
I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;

Even if they understand what that means, they have no intentions of living by those words.

11 posted on 03/19/2003 3:01:31 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: FITZ
Yes, I do agree with that. They send it back to Mexico in the form of money orders every week. I must add that my wife teaches, works for the school board- great insurance, but we have to meet a deductible... they don't. Everythings free and the more kids the more money.
12 posted on 03/19/2003 3:07:50 PM PST by FloridaBoy
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To: FloridaBoy
That translates to alot of federal money and free medical/dental care

I had 2 appointments last week: driver's license renewal and dental. I was shocked to see that both waiting rooms were literally filled with Hispanic people-- not a "normal" thing around here. On top of this is the fact that children of illegal immigrants are allowed to attend our schools at our expense. We are paying for special tutors and programs to teach these children English and help them feel more "at home"...resulting in budget cuts that affect children who are American citizens, in ways such as their daily milk program being discontinued, too many students per teacher, "special needs" students receiving more of the teachers' personal attention, and much more...

13 posted on 03/19/2003 3:45:43 PM PST by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: Brownie74
I would suspect you'd see a lot of crossed fingers at the swearing in ceremonies...
14 posted on 03/19/2003 4:01:25 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Hoppean
That law was good only for five years. A proposal to make the legislation permanent is being considered by Mexico's Congress....

Given the reconquista mode the Mexicans are in, you can bet the farm this legislation will be made permanent.

15 posted on 03/19/2003 4:08:40 PM PST by Pa' fuera
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To: Tancredo Fan
Well, does this mean that Mexicans who are citizens can lobby and vote for foreign aid $ to be sent to Mexico that will directly benefit their business or property interests in that country? Will we see the Calif. Chicano Congress someday declare Hispanic supremacy in the former Rep. of California?
16 posted on 03/19/2003 4:36:39 PM PST by american spirit
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To: dc.mlo
I'll put it this way...when it comes to LEGAL immigration, I'm very OPEN minded and conversely very CLOSED minded when it comes to having my tax $ going to people who've attached themselves to this idiotic welfare system and are sucking it dry. Anyone with a brain knows this is corporate welfare at it's finest...wouldn't it be great to have a business where I can pay minimal wages to workers, EVADE A WHOLE LOT OF PAYROLL TAXES and then see to it that the suckers...oops, taxpayers get to support my employees housing, medical, education and food needs. This is a recipe for national suicide and if you're as smart as you deem yourself to be you know this is true.

I still stand by my belief that dual citizenship is a disastrous policy that will only create more fraud and abuse within the political system. One good example is the idiotic Motor Voter law that just invites rampant vote fraud that will inflict only more burdens on our system. If you're a taxpaying American regardless of your ancestry you should be as outraged as I am about the damage illegal immigration has done and will continue to do to this country. When push comes to shove where will your allegiance be?
18 posted on 07/18/2003 8:12:44 AM PDT by american spirit (POLI--TICS >> NUMEROUS - BLOOD SUCKING CREATURES <<)
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