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1 posted on 03/25/2003 12:25:38 PM PST by DWPittelli
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Don't trust Debka, but I hope they're right about this one.
2 posted on 03/25/2003 12:27:11 PM PST by Bigg Red (Defend America against her most powerful enemy -- the Democrats.)
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I found this story bizarre from the beginning. What would a bus be doing traveling during a war? Strange timing.
3 posted on 03/25/2003 12:27:13 PM PST by hsmomx3 (Bundgaard for AZ Gov.)
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I really want to believe DEBKA on this one, but I will stick with my policy and not believe any DEBKA report until I see it corroborated by the Weekly World News!
4 posted on 03/25/2003 12:28:42 PM PST by gridlock (It really is a matter of us vs. them, you know.)
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I haven't heard anything about it being filled with palestinian fighters. But if it was, I would love to buy that pilot & WSO some drinks!
5 posted on 03/25/2003 12:29:01 PM PST by Teetop (democrats....... socialist.........whats the difference?)
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I would be suprised if a busload of Palestinians didn't explode by itself.
6 posted on 03/25/2003 12:29:10 PM PST by freedomlover
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Hm....Sweet, if it's true.
7 posted on 03/25/2003 12:29:42 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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DEBKA says many things.
10 posted on 03/25/2003 12:30:15 PM PST by kevao
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Forgive my ignorance, but what is Debka and why should it not be trusted?

Anyway, it would make sense if that were the case. I can't imagine a missile going off course that badly, if at all, and then landing exactly where a Syrian bus happens to be. Ninety percent of all munititions used in this war are precision-guided.
12 posted on 03/25/2003 12:31:17 PM PST by Jonez712 (I <3 America)
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I heard this last night. Not about the occupants being Palestinian, but that it was deliberate.
13 posted on 03/25/2003 12:31:18 PM PST by js1138
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Take DEBKA with a grain of salt -- but one can only hope, 'eh?
14 posted on 03/25/2003 12:31:35 PM PST by ambrose
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Syrian Volunteers Reportedly Head for Iraq
Mar 24, 2003

Summary

Busloads of Syrians have reportedly left Syria to fight alongside Iraqi soldiers. If true, this would be an astounding development on Damascus' part, as it would be tantamount to declaring war on the United States.

Analysis

The BBC has reported that busloads of Syrian volunteers have left Syria to fight alongside Iraqi soldiers. The network offered no further details regarding the numbers involved or on Damascus' position on their actions. However, while Syria has stated its opposition to the war, Damascus has been extremely cautious in avoiding the impression of providing material support to Iraq. Even tacit approval of Syrian volunteers in Iraq would be tantamount to siding with Iraq in its war with the United States. That would be a tremendous gamble on the outcome of the war.

Damascus certainly would prefer the United States not successfully occupy Iraq. Were that to occur, Syria would be surrounded by U.S. and allied forces to the north, south and east, severely limiting its diplomatic and military options. However, since U.S. forces already are deployed to Iraq, en route and available, it would be difficult to argue at this time that Iraq will emerge from this war victorious. Coalition troops have faced some resistance, but not enough to justify a Syrian gamble on a U.S. loss.

Sources in Syria report that tens of thousands of Syrian volunteers are pressing Damascus to allow them to cross the border to help their Iraqi brethren fight the U.S. Army. The government is reportedly refusing, as it fears U.S. anger and has already been warned by Washington. But the sources say that hundreds of young Syrians, many of them former soldiers with the Syrian army, are successfully finding their way to Iraq -- either crossing the desert on foot or camel or by bribing border guards.

There is one anomaly that could support the BBC report of busloads of volunteers leaving Syria to fight. According to Syria's SANA news agency, a U.S. warplane fired a missile at a busload of Syrian nationals in Iraq at 1000 local time March 23. The bus was carrying 37 laborers, purportedly returning to Syria from jobs in Iraq, when it was attacked near Ar Rutbah, roughly 100 miles from the Syrian border. Five of the passengers died and at least ten were wounded in the attack. Regarding the alleged attack, a CENTCOM spokeswoman said only that the United States selects its targets carefully and uses precision-guided munitions to avoid civilian casualties.

This could be an accident and a coincidence. After all, according to SANA, the bus was returning to Syria, not traveling to Baghdad. But one last nagging fact emerged: One of those wounded in the attack was transferred to his hometown of Hamma. Hamma was the site of an Islamist uprising in 1982, which was brutally suppressed by then-President Hafez al Assad. Now, just because someone comes from a town that was a hotbed of Islamist activism two decades ago, when he was an infant, doesn't mean he is either an Islamist or inclined to volunteer for a war against U.S. forces in neighboring Iraq.

Just to weave in two more tenuous threads of circumstance, we note that last year there were reports of secret Iraqi-Syrian security negotiations and of the transfer of Iraqi arms to Syria and Syrian-backed Hezbollah militants in Lebanon. And on March 21, U.S. aircraft bombed the Iraqi town of Akashat, near the Syrian border. There were subsequent reports in the Lebanese and Chinese press of U.S. special operations forces skirmishing with Iraqis in that town. There were no reports of Syrian involvement, and the town is reportedly the site of weapons of mass destruction manufacturing facilities. It could have been targeted for reasons having nothing to do with Syrian volunteers.

While Stratfor sources confirm that Syrian volunteers are attempting to reach Iraq, the BBC allegations of busloads pouring out of the country are difficult to believe and can be bolstered only by the thinnest of circumstances. A few busloads of Syrian volunteers would do nothing to shift the course of the war in Iraq, but would draw U.S. wrath after the war if the coalition emerged victorious. The only conditions under which Damascus would allow volunteers to join Iraqi forces would be if they knew the battle was stacked against CENTCOM or if they were also planning to send significant forces to shift the course of the battle. Neither seems likely, but the situation in Syria is worth monitoring.
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17 posted on 03/25/2003 12:33:48 PM PST by Sabertooth
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The only problem with this theory is that the bus was headed to Syria from Iraq.
19 posted on 03/25/2003 12:34:11 PM PST by Nick Danger (Liberty Weekend March 22-23 www.freeper.org)
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Aw heck. Let's believe the story and propogate it in the interest of deterrence. < /psyops>
21 posted on 03/25/2003 12:34:25 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
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bump
23 posted on 03/25/2003 12:36:21 PM PST by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth......)
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STRATFOR said the bus was travelling westward, i.e., from Iraq into Syria, and that one of the people on the bus was from Hama (sp?), a city full of fundamentalist Moslems that had rebelled against the elder Assad.
27 posted on 03/25/2003 12:41:24 PM PST by aristeides
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Regardless of the source this report is probably true.

The key to this cicumstances is why would the US blow up a bridge near the Syria frontier when we have preserved all other bridges in Iraq and have gone well out of our way not to interfer with Iraqi commerece during this past week.

28 posted on 03/25/2003 12:41:25 PM PST by Amerigomag
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I don't have a problem with Debka, but I enjoy bashing it on the on this forum. It is kind of like bashing the french (except I mean it when I bash the french).
33 posted on 03/25/2003 12:44:28 PM PST by Porterville (Screw the grammar, full posting ahead.)
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Bullsh*t. With all this stuff going on, who really thinks that we are bothering to keep up with one, single busload of untrained irregulars?

This is more Israeli wishful thinking. They'd LOVE to the U.S. to fight their battles for them.
35 posted on 03/25/2003 12:45:51 PM PST by Illbay (Don't believe every tagline you read - including this one)
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This morning on a talk show, Tony Snow was briefly interviewed and he mentioned that people were boarding busses and heading into Iraq to join the war.

He mentioned that if we started to hear about busloads of male "civilians" being blown up we'd know what was going on.

39 posted on 03/25/2003 12:47:06 PM PST by thatsnotnice
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Too bad we only lit up 5 of them......
47 posted on 03/25/2003 12:56:06 PM PST by b4its2late (Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. - Bonaparte)
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