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The Incredible Shrinking 401(k) Contribution
HRnext.com ^ | Thursday, March 27, 2003

Posted on 03/27/2003 11:28:27 AM PST by Willie Green

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Company contributions to 401(k) plans are shriveling up these days - even when the company happens to be in the 401(k) business.

Charles Schwab, which has a growing line of 401(k) management services, announced recently that it would no longer make contributions to its own employees' 401(k) accounts.

Schwab says suspending its relatively generous contributions will save a significant amount of money, though less than $15 million per quarter.

The San Francisco Chronicle reports that Schwab is just the latest major employer to suspend its match in recent years. The other include Ford, Daimler-Chrysler, a host of auto-parts makers, Goodyear Tire & Rubber, Great Northern Paper, Tech Data, El Paso Corp., CMS Energy and U.S. News magazine.

Still, it's rare to see large companies suspend their match entirely, says David Wray, president of the Profit Sharing/401(k) Council of America. "The human resources implications of that are significant."

Nationwide, company contributions to 401(k) plans peaked at 3.3 percent of payroll in 1999, according to a survey by the council. That fell to 2.5 percent in 2001. There are no numbers for 2002 yet.

Given the difficult economy, Wray says, many companies are cutting back on discretionary contributions or amending their plans to make the match more flexible.

Levi Strauss, for instance, used to match 50 cents per dollar up to 10 percent of pay. Last year it changed to a variable match based on "business performance," says spokeswoman Melinda Gable. "Last year was really high. We hit our internal targets, and matched 75 cents on the dollar."

Most companies try to maintain their match because it is the best way to get employees at all levels to contribute to their 401(k) accounts.

"One of the main motivations of matching programs is to help (companies) meet federal nondiscrimination rules for pensions," says Gary Engelhardt, an associate economics professor at Syracuse University.

These rules are designed to prevent the highly compensated from getting more tax-deferred benefits than lower- paid people. "The match is designed to get non-highly compensated employees to save more. If they save more, the highly compensated employees can shelter more," Engelhardt says.

Although workers who get a match are more likely to participate in a plan, they don't necessarily put in more of their own money.

On average, employees in a plan without a match contributed 7.4 percent of their pay. Employees in a plan with a match contributed only 6.8 percent, but thanks to the match, their total contribution reached 10 percent of pay, according to an October 2001 study by the Employee Benefits Research Institute.

"Most employees contribute just enough to grab the company match and go no further," says Jack VanDerhei, an institute fellow.

When companies slash their 401(k) contribution, it's usually to avoid even worse cuts, such as layoffs or reductions in health benefits, according to the Chronicle.

"Some firms feel that the matching contributions are a second- or third- tier benefit," Engelhardt tells the newspaper. "Health insurance is the one employees value most. If there is a traditional pension plan, that is highly valued. Just having a 401(k) is also valued. The match itself, some firms believe, is not a first-tier benefit."

Some employers use a cut in the 401(k) match "as a way to educate participants that this is not a guarantee," says Rick Meigs, president of 401khelpcenter.com. These employers send the message: "If you want your match back, work harder and improve our profitability."

But the cut comes as a surprise to the vast majority of rank-and-file workers, who think the match is an entitlement, says Meigs.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: recession; retirement; thebusheconomy
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1 posted on 03/27/2003 11:28:27 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
But the cut comes as a surprise to the vast majority of rank-and-file workers, who think the match is an entitlement, says Meigs.

Sounds to me like this is the problem. Most companies are very clear in their HR manuals about 401(k) matching contributions and how they can change from one year to the next.

2 posted on 03/27/2003 11:32:05 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
Without the employee match what is the gain in staying in the 401 K at this time. Returns are horribly dismal. I will opt out for the time being if my company stopped the match. I would probably switch to bonds or cash out to pay off my current debts.
3 posted on 03/27/2003 11:37:48 AM PST by alisasny
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To: alisasny
Without the employee match what is the gain in staying in the 401 K at this time. Returns are horribly dismal. I will opt out for the time being if my company stopped the match. I would probably switch to bonds or cash out to pay off my current debts.

Many people assume that a 401(k) plan only allows the employee to invest in stocks. Most plans offer a range of investing options, including stocks, bonds, money market funds, etc. You can usually "stay in the 401(k)" without exposing yourself to stock market fluctuations simply by directing your 401(k) money into low-risk investments.

Anyone who wants to "cash out" of a 401(k) just because they don't like the returns they are seeing doesn't belong in a 401(k) plan in the first place because they clearly do not understand the nature of long-term investing. There's nothing anyone can do to help people like that except pay them their $12,000 per year in Social Security benefits after they retire.

4 posted on 03/27/2003 11:47:07 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: alisasny
Without the employee match what is the gain in staying in the 401 K at this time. Returns are horribly dismal.

You sound like a person who would move from Orlando to Detroit on account of one month of cold weather. Fact is, the returns on the average 401(k) have been nothing short of spectacular when viewed over the past 20 years. There are still people in my company today kicking themselves for not getting into it earlier when it was first offered (in 1983).

Even with the downturn of the past couple years, my 401(k) is far better than I would have done with cash or bonds over the past 20 yeras. In fact, with the lower share prices, my monthly contributions buy more shares than they would have in years past. At any rate, as I get older, I gradually move my holdings into fixed or safer funds. So the recent dot-com implosion has not caused me to lose a lot of sleep.

401(k) is probably the best benefit an employee has. It might look good on paper today for companies to stop matching employee contributions but it will come back to bite them later when the economy improves and the employees start looking elsewhere for a place to work.

5 posted on 03/27/2003 11:48:58 AM PST by SamAdams76 (California wine beats French wine in blind taste tests. Boycott French wine.)
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To: SamAdams76
My 401k is doing splendedly considering the stock market. Never in my wildest dreams did I forsee having the kind of money I have now. This savings plan is the best thing since the wheel was invented!
6 posted on 03/27/2003 12:02:12 PM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Alberta's Child
There's nothing anyone can do to help people like that except pay them their $12,000 per year in Social Security benefits after they retire.

It's frustrating isn't it? As a manager, I've been trying to convince my employees to participate in the 401(k) plan for years. Some get it, many never do. Many have a defeatist attitude about the whole thing because they just don't understand or they don't want to take the time to understand. My company will not match unless you contribute at least 3% of your income into the plan. Yet I have more than one employee contributing just 1% or 2%. Then they wonder why their balance never seems to grow where just another 1% to 2% on their part will result in the company throwing in another 3%. Go figure.

7 posted on 03/27/2003 12:03:01 PM PST by SamAdams76 (California wine beats French wine in blind taste tests. Boycott French wine.)
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To: alisasny
Actually, now is the time to put money in, especially if you have 20+ years to retirement. On the average, the market returns 8% or so. CDs, Money market. . .you might get 2%. Only worse investment is Social Security. . .
8 posted on 03/27/2003 12:08:18 PM PST by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: Sunshine Sister
I've been contributing 15% of my income (including company match) into a 401(k) since I got out of the Marines back in 1985. Suffice to say that I technically have enough to retire now - only I can't touch it (without penalty) until I'm 62. Well, that day will come soon enough so I'm not exactly in a rush to get there!
9 posted on 03/27/2003 12:11:54 PM PST by SamAdams76 (California wine beats French wine in blind taste tests. Boycott French wine.)
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To: alisasny
Remember dollar cost averaging.....................
10 posted on 03/27/2003 12:12:42 PM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: alisasny
Without the employee match what is the gain in staying in the 401 K at this time



The gain is tax deferal. You get a tax break today and the interest/gain isn't taxed untill you draw on the money. True the market is a volitile mess but it won't stay that way for ever. And for the record I'm a Certified Financial Planner (CFP) not some yahoo who read a book.

11 posted on 03/27/2003 12:14:08 PM PST by SKIbone
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To: SKIbone
I am happy right now with my 401 K. We are getting tons of shares and we can study what is going on. My husband works for a small company and the employmatch being taken away would result in a revolt.
12 posted on 03/27/2003 12:16:02 PM PST by alisasny
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To: SamAdams76
I am staying in my 401 K with employee match. Mine is doing Ok. Since July mine is up almost 5 percent. I keep an eye on my funds.
13 posted on 03/27/2003 12:18:15 PM PST by alisasny
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To: SamAdams76
You do know you can take a low interest rate loan from your 401 k? The interest is paying yourself back.
14 posted on 03/27/2003 12:20:20 PM PST by alisasny
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To: alisasny
That's how I got my first house!

15 posted on 03/27/2003 12:21:19 PM PST by SamAdams76 (California wine beats French wine in blind taste tests. Boycott French wine.)
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To: SamAdams76; Alberta's Child
The unintended downside of the 401k is that fully funded pensions plans are going the way of the dodo. There are a few companies that have 401k and pensions; however, many companies have used the 401k system with large employer matches to ditch their pension system altogether as they hired newer employees.

You can be ready for the golden years by having having if there's number of diverse investment plans available: personal investment, pension, 401k, Roth, IRA and insurance. For most people, the pension, IRA and Roth plans are completely unavailable, that limits your options and increases your risk.

16 posted on 03/27/2003 12:21:29 PM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: alisasny
I am happy right now with my 401 K. We are getting tons of shares and we can study what is going on.


Thats great keep contributing. What alot of my less informed clients (read Liberals) have done is stop contributions all together (agenst my advise). What ultimately happens is the extra cash flow gets absorbed into thier budget (minus the extra you get to send Washington) and they save nothing.
17 posted on 03/27/2003 12:22:34 PM PST by SKIbone
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To: Willie Green
"The match is designed to get non-highly compensated employees to save more. If they save more, the highly compensated employees can shelter more," Engelhardt says.

"Non-highly-compensated"? Paging Mr. Orwell . . .
18 posted on 03/27/2003 12:22:36 PM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: SamAdams76
Very good. Recent I had this discussion with a friend who took out an equity loan when the 401 k loan funds were available at a much lower percent. I tried to explain this to her to no avail. What I most like about the 401 K loan is the quick payback rolled over 2 years or 3. Right now with all the funds at a low rate of return the loan is a great option over more conventional loans.
19 posted on 03/27/2003 12:23:10 PM PST by alisasny
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To: alisasny
Very good. Recent I had this discussion with a friend who took out an equity loan when the 401 k loan funds were available at a much lower percent.


The equity loan was probablly a better option if she was in a high tax bracket. An equity loan is a tax deduction. and while you do pay the interest to yourself on a 401(k) loan you repay it with after tax dollars. you then get taxed again on those dollars you repaid your loan with when you take the money out in retirement. In effect the money is taxed twice.
20 posted on 03/27/2003 12:28:02 PM PST by SKIbone
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