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(Wesley) Clark Tanks
American Prowler ^ | 03/28/03 | The Prowler

Posted on 03/27/2003 9:28:52 PM PST by Pokey78

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To: Pokey78
I heard that a lot of DNC types are calling him a Republican-Lite. According to some of them he is too conservative for the liberal base and that is why they don't like him.
61 posted on 08/27/2003 7:37:23 PM PDT by hermes509 (Questions For The Experts)
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To: hermes509
Clinton was "Republican lite" but he was still a liberal who trashed the military and presided over an administration that gutted defense/intelligence, making us more vulnerable to 9/11...

to say nothing of appointing Ruth ACLU Bader Ginsburg to the Supreme Court...

In other words, as a Democrat, this could do a lot of damage
62 posted on 08/27/2003 7:42:19 PM PDT by votelife (Free Bill Pryor)
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To: votelife
How was a "Republican lite"??? In other words, what part of his policies warranted being labeled as Republican?

And why the hell would the DNC support him?
63 posted on 08/27/2003 8:36:23 PM PDT by hermes509
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To: Yankee
The fey poof Aaron Brown

Don't you just want to bitch-slap that pompous, know-it-all look off that moron's stupid face?

Where does CNN grow these losers?


They got this one from ABC.
64 posted on 08/27/2003 9:16:59 PM PDT by gatorbait
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To: hermes509
basically, Bush I was a big departure from Reagan. Clinton was more liberal than Bush, but one could argue that Bush was closer to Clinton economically than to Reagan. Plus Clinton did "balance the budget" and pass welfare reform. I know it was the R Congress that did this but your average dumb voter views Clinton as a "moderate". i should have quoted.
65 posted on 08/27/2003 9:30:38 PM PDT by votelife (Free Bill Pryor)
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To: votelife
You are comparing Bush I, a Republican to Clinton? And Clark is being compared to Clinton? You end this by saying that you don't think Clinton is a moderate, but Bush I is closer to him than he was to Reagan? What does this make Bush I - a liberal?

Sorry if I sound a bit confused.
66 posted on 08/28/2003 8:19:17 PM PDT by hermes509
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To: hermes509
Reagan- generally a down the line conservative; compromised somewhat, but called the USSR an evil empire, cut taxes heavily, and appointed Scalia, elevated Rhenquist, O'Connor, and Kennedy (after he couldn't get Bork through.

Overall a very conservative record. O'Connor is a problem, though at least she ruled against the FL Supreme Court in Bush v Gore.

Bush I- I'd call a moderate conservative; he said no new taxes, but raised them. When he campaigned against Reagan in '80 he called supply side "voodoo economics." He also appointed Souter. At least he gave us Thomas. Oh, he wasn't a big friend of gun owners either, not horrible like Clinton, but...Oh, when the wall came down in Berlin, where was Bush? No major speech...

Clinton- I'd call a liberal who disguised himself with moderation.

about Bush raising taxes, I don't think he really wanted to as much as Clinton did, I think he felt hemmed in politically.

But I tend to see Reagan as a believer in conservatism, where as Bush kind of more was along for the ride. He wasn't a liberal, but he was definitely not a strong conservative. I like Bush I, just not nearly as much as Reagan. Bush II I see in between Reagan and his father politically. Still, Bush II hopefully has a lot of time left and I'm looking forward to seeing how he tackles the left.
67 posted on 08/29/2003 12:28:23 PM PDT by votelife (Free Bill Pryor)
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To: votelife
Well I liked Bush I and don't consider him a liberal or closer to Clinton than Reagan or even along for the ride of conservatism. In fact, Reagan acted like more of a tax and spend liberal than Bush I. First off Reagan did raise our payroll taxes to support the most liberal of all government programs. Second, he cut other taxes through deficit spending increasing the debt 300% from the time he got in office to the time he left office. This is more than triple what any other President has done in the last 50 years. The way I see it, long term, is that Reagan got to make us very happy in the 80s with his tax cuts and Bush I had to be the bad conservative who had to raise taxes to cover for it. He didn't want to raise taxes, but he also wanted to make sure that we weren't going to bankrupt ourselves in debt. In fact, 20 cents of every stinking dollar of income tax that I pay now goes to paying off interest on debt and I'm going to have to lay a lot of that wasted expense on Reagan. Bush I also got nailed by a recession which should have never been if Reagan's supply side ideas worked correctly. So labeling Bush I as less of a conservative just doesn't seem right to me. One has to look at the situation he inherited. I'm judging conservatism in a more traditional fashion and that means smaller government with less financial burdens. Debt is one of the worse financial burdens our government puts on us because it has to be paid back in interest. And the way I hear things now is that the Chinese are beginning to have a large claim stake in that debt. I have no interest in my taxes being raised now or later to pay interest to the Chinese.

68 posted on 08/29/2003 8:22:49 PM PDT by hermes509
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To: FL_engineer
Looks like your estimation of Wesley is a bit higher than mine. I mean, can you picture the Wesley Clark campaign song:


        "Wesley hates the little children,
        all the little children of the world,
        Red and yellow, black and white,
        he will kill them all on sight...


sort of like the old sunday school song, only weslified...


http://www.iespana.es/krasniesviety/yug03.htm
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2000/nato/Natbm200-03.htm
http://alas.matf.bg.ac.yu/public.html
http://www.novisad.g17plus.org.yu/saopstenja/stipendije02.htm
http://www.serbia-info.com/news/1999-06/13/12517.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/serbrights/message/105?source=1
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/WACO/waco.html

etc.

69 posted on 08/30/2003 11:33:17 AM PDT by judywillow
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To: Pokey78
Wesley "guess what I'll say next" Clark bump!
70 posted on 09/24/2003 11:44:46 AM PDT by mrsmith
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