A CHILLING DISCOVERY

CNN ^ | 03/30/2003 | Sundry

[Glenn]

CNN.com - Bloodied U.S. battle fatigues discovered - Mar. 30, 2003

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Bloodied U.S. battle fatigues believed to be those of some of an ambushed Army maintenance unit were found in a hospital in Nasiriya, Iraq, according to a Pentagon official.

The uniforms, found by U.S. troops who took over the hospital, appeared to have had their name tags and flag patches ripped off, perhaps to hide the identity of their owners, the official said.

The troops also discovered what appeared to be a torture device made of a metal cot and a car battery.

The uniforms appear to belong to some of the members of the Army's 507th Ordnance Maintenance Company, who were ambushed March 23 in Nasiriya. Two soldiers were known to have been killed. Eight others are missing, and five were taken as prisoners of war.

Meanwhile, U.S. Central Command announced Saturday that two Marines have been killed in separate incidents in Iraq.

Central Command said one Marine from the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force was killed late Friday night when he was hit by a Humvee during a firefight with Iraqi soldiers in south-central Iraq.

The other Marine, also from the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, drowned early Friday when the Humvee in which he was riding rolled over into a canal in south-central Iraq.

Marines at the scene tried for 30 minutes to revive him, Central Command's statement said.

Overnight and into early Sunday, U.S.-led coalition airstrikes continued across Iraq, with force commanders stressing they were emphasizing precision strikes on Iraqi regime, military and "irregular" targets.

Flashes lit up the night sky above Baghdad, and Mosul and Kalak in northern Iraq, as explosions were heard in all three cities.

The bombing of the northern cities in the last 24 hours is the most intense in the area since the war started.

In Baghdad, coalition forces dropped satellite-guided munitions on two surface-to-air missile complexes. Central Command said coalition aircraft also bombed the main training facility of the Iraqi paramilitary forces in Ar Rustamiyah, eastern Baghdad. The forces in that area are in charge of security functions in eastern Baghdad, Central Command said.

The U.S. military said it also targeted command-and-control facilities at the Abu Garayb Presidential Palace and two facilities at the Karada Intelligence Complex.

The Karada complex is on the banks of the Tigris River in southern Baghdad.

A few hours later, at least four large explosions rocked a residential compound northwest of the Information Ministry, where many government officials live.

The threat from Iraqi "irregulars" was emphasized earlier Saturday when a suicide bomber blew up his car at a military checkpoint in the central Iraqi town of Najaf, killing four U.S. soldiers with the 3rd Infantry Division, military officials said.

Iraqi Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan said at a news conference Saturday that coalition forces could expect more suicide bombings and praised "every martyr that aims to protect their land." Sunday morning, Iraq TV announced that President Saddam Hussein would give the family of the man who carried out Saturday's attack 100 million dinars, or about $35,000. (Full story)

The foreign minister of Iran also aimed threatening words at the United States, warning Sunday that "the worst days are yet to come" in Iraq.

Kamal Kharrazi used as one example suicide bombings, which he said likely will escalate. He also accused U.S. officials of miscalculating how much the Iraqis would welcome the invading military.

"The reality of the truth is that regardless how much the Iraqi people are disgruntled with their regime and with their government, still they would not want or allow a government imposed on them by foreigners," he told reporters at the Foreign Ministry in Tehran.

Despite those threats, U.S. Central Command Director of Operations Maj. Gen. Victor Renuart said the suicide attack would not change the coalition's operational strategy but added that it was still under review.

[norcalvet]

Can anyone identify the specific brand of battery here? I've done a quick google search and this was the most comprehensive list of car battery brands that I could find:
http://uuhome.de/william.darden/batbrand.htm

Although a number of them are located in France, I can't find any companies or brands named "FRANCE."

In light of that, and the obvious PR value of this being true, and the big, blocked, non-stylized lettering, I am somewhat skeptical of the authenticity of this photo. However, the reports of NBC blurring the word only add to it's credibility, in my opinion.

[ought-six]

"That is the ultimate humiliation...to be labelled totally irrelevant."

I've found that what galls the Dems and liberals the most is to treat them with indifference. They can accept anything but indifference, because indifference tells them that they are meaningless, and, yes, irrelevant.

[norcalvet]

Of course, since this is a car battery, thus likely pulled out of a car, it isn't that big a deal that France has sold cars to Iraq.

Authentic or not, this makes more of a political cartoon than an indictment of France's complicity in Iraqi torture.

I think France is guilty as sin in too much of this situation, but this particular image is not part of the vast body of evidence that proves it.

[norcalvet]

Just saw Richard Marcinko (Capt, SEAL, USN Ret.) on Fox News, stating that the surviving POW's have likely been pulled back to Baghdad. He also pointed out that we should not attempt to rescue any of them if we can't get all of them at once, since the remaining POW's would be punished for the escape.

As a side note, seeing this military legend and eye-candy Laurie Dhue all at once was quite a thrill.

[VOA]

great graphic of some REAL men who are "the real deal"

[tpaine]

"Take off the gloves, Rummy! I don't ever want to read another article like this!"
1 -glenn-

Millions of patriots have been making the point, -ever since 9/11, -- that the 'gloves' should not be on.
-- Rummy and the WH boyos have convinced themselves that they can fight a ~new~ kind of 'limited' war. The grunts around Bagdad will pay, -- until the gloves come off.

Limited war is a political dream, and a soldiers nightmare.
We never learn.

[VOA]

thanks for the "@$$-whoop" graphic...

[Mrs. Xtrmst]

Just saw this on Drudge from the New York Post http://nypost.com/news/worldnews/72224.htm mentions a "female soldier's uniform". I have no words.

[Mrs. Xtrmst]

Oops! I guess I didn't do it right.

http://nypost.com/news/worldnews/72224.htm

[gatorbait]

We used to call the the "C"LINTON "N"EWS "N"ETWORK, but have recently changed it to the "C"OMMUNIST "N"EWS "N"ETWORK.

FRegards, Vets (Using OUR First Ammendment Rights!!)


I thought these terms were synonymous...

[Vets_Husband_and_Wife]

"I thought these terms were synonymous..."

I stand corrected, you're right, they are!! :o)

[oldvike]

You were talking out of your butt.

Eeeeeewwwwwwwwww! You'll be seeing me on "Ripley's Believe it or Not" next week. :-))

[quack]

My bet is that they have it hooked up to a transformer and are wetting down the person they are torturing.You'd have to knock the current down,thus raising the voltage(since current is invertly proportional to voltage,E=I*R(Ohm's Law)in order for the person to survive multiple electroshock sessions.

For example,stun guns usually start out in the 100,000 volt range,which makes the current non-lethal.Also,it only takes about 60 milliamps to cause ventricular fibrillation in adults.The frequency(Hz) of the current also plays a role.

I noticed a small box next to the battery in the photo.My guess is that is the transformer. Hope this is not too graphic.Just trying to give you an idea of what would be involved.

[ZULU]

CLASS ACTION SUIT IN U.S. COURTS

All the family members of American soldiers killed, tortured or wounded as a consequnce of Iraqi governmental actions in violation of the Geneva convention should file a class action suit in the U.S. courts, naming Iraqi assets, i.e. oil revenues as source of compensation.

Of course, this should follow hanging of all Iraqis responsible for war crimes and violations of the Geneva convention, and after trials by coalition courts martial, NOT by an international court like Hague, which is probably manned by dogs from France, Belgium, Germany and other countries which hate us.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

ROTFL

[madison10]

Hilter=Hitler, but y'all knew that.