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Is U.S. Military Stretched Too Thin?
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | SUNDAY, March 30, 2003 | Tom Infield - Knight Ridder News Service

Posted on 03/30/2003 9:35:38 AM PST by Willie Green

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WASHINGTON -- With an additional 120,000 troops ordered to start moving toward the Persian Gulf, the U.S. military may not have enough soldiers, tanks, warplanes and ships left to deal with a major emergency elsewhere, say in North Korea.

Sixty percent of Marine Corps power is already deployed overseas, mostly in Iraq. Half of the Navy's aircraft carrier battle groups and the bulk of the Air Force's B-1 and B-2 heavy bombers are engaged in the war. Four of 10 15,000-person Army divisions are in combat in Iraq or Afghanistan, and elements of three other divisions are en route to the Persian Gulf.

One Army division is permanently stationed in South Korea, but it's not enough to hold off North Korea's million-man army, backed by thousands of artillery pieces that can fire chemical weapons. That leaves just two divisions in reserve, one in Hawaii and the other in upstate New York.

Leaders of the armed services say they have no doubt that the United States could meet another threat, or even several threats, in other parts of the world, including the Korean peninsula.

But with commitments in Colombia, a global war on terrorism and peacekeeping duties in Bosnia and Kosovo, some military leaders have begun to worry how far -- and for how long -- their resources can be stretched.

The 240,000 American military personnel in the Gulf region could be joined by tens of thousands of others over weeks or months.

The total will certainly be fewer than the half-million personnel that served in the first Gulf War in 1991. But the Iraq war's impact could be much greater. The armed forces are much smaller than they were a dozen years ago, but America's military commitments are greater.

The Army had 18 divisions and 706,000 men and women at the time of the first Gulf War. Now it has 10 divisions and 476,000 people. The Navy had 580 ships then; now it has 306. The Air Force, which had 165 air wings in 1991, now has 91.

Former President Bill Clinton, along with the Congress, cut forces in anticipation of a "peace dividend" that would come with the breakup of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War.

Until the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the Bush administration favored continued downsizing of the Army, and especially of its heavy armored and mechanized divisions, while wanting to rely more on special forces, high-tech weaponry and air power.

The administration still favors what Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has called "lighter, faster, more agile forces," not more troops. Rumsfeld, in fact, has been openly criticized by some active duty and retired military commanders in recent days for underestimating Iraqi opposition, betting too heavily on precision-guided bombs and not sending enough ground troops, armor and artillery to the gulf.

Air Force Lt. Gen. Richard Brown, the service's personnel chief, went before the Senate Armed Services Committee to address what he called a "crisis" in personnel, including the frequent and prolonged mobilizations of Air Force Reservists and Air National Guard members.

He said that with the stepped-up air patrols over the United States and the war on terrorists abroad, "we are stressed by the challenges."

Although it has lobbied for a bigger role in U.S. war plans -- and gotten one in Iraq -- the Marine Corps is stretched thin, too.

Of 175,000 active-duty Marines and 19,000 Reservists, 99,000 are deployed outside the United States, from the Middle East to Afghanistan to Okinawa to the former Soviet republic of Georgia. This includes 64,000 in Iraq and Kuwait.

If a new war began somewhere else, U.S. ground forces would have to come overwhelmingly from the Army.

"We conceivably could help out in another theater," a Marine official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. "But the Marine Corps, primarily, is a one-theater force."

Most of the Army is tied down, too, however. Units from seven of the 10 regular Army divisions already are in the gulf or have orders to head there.

Only the 25th Infantry Division, in Hawaii, and the 10th Mountain Division, which has returned to upstate New York from Afghanistan, are entirely on U.S. soil. The 2nd Division is permanently assigned to South Korea.

The 3rd Infantry Division, from Fort Stewart, Ga., is leading the battle in Iraq, along with the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force and the 101st Airborne Division from Fort Campbell, Ky. The 173rd Airborne Brigade, based in Italy, has opened a second front in northern Iraq.

The 82nd Airborne Division from Fort Bragg, N.C., has joined the battle against Iraqi guerrillas near An Nasiriyah. Other elements of the division are trying to root out terrorists in Afghanistan.

Soldiers from the 4th Infantry Division at Fort Hood, Texas, are on airplanes to the gulf.


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1 posted on 03/30/2003 9:35:38 AM PST by Willie Green
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2 posted on 03/30/2003 9:38:36 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Those who are kind to the cruel end up being cruel to the kind!")
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To: Willie Green

3 posted on 03/30/2003 9:39:25 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Those who are kind to the cruel end up being cruel to the kind!")
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To: Grampa Dave
ROTFLMAO!
4 posted on 03/30/2003 9:43:08 AM PST by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: Willie Green
Are the grunts too few??? Yes indeed they, thanks to Clinton. We went from 18 army divisions to 10.
5 posted on 03/30/2003 9:44:37 AM PST by cynicom
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To: cynicom
Yes indeed they are...
6 posted on 03/30/2003 9:49:24 AM PST by cynicom
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To: cynicom
Yeah, really. Where were all of these stories about a too-small military when Clinton was in office? No one cares about these mistakes until a Republican is president?
7 posted on 03/30/2003 9:49:32 AM PST by Timm
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Timm

See my first post. No one complained when Clinton axed the 8 divisions. Now we pay for it. The proof is in the number of reservists doing regular duty.

8 posted on 03/30/2003 9:52:53 AM PST by cynicom
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To: Willie Green
This article demonstrates especially well the addage "Generals tend to fight the last war"... This goes double for retired generals, who have not had the benefit of "play testing" modern theory of warfare. With few exceptions, they are being demonstrated to have egg on their face in their commentary of this action. The active duty leadership has created a superb battle plan, and is demonstrably NOT fighting the last war, and is executing this plan with extraordinary skill.

I am looking forward to reading the memoirs of this "War Against Saadumb Hussein" --- (hmmm... not a bad acronym, at that...WASH)
9 posted on 03/30/2003 9:53:22 AM PST by AFPhys (((PRAYING for: President Bush & advisors, troops & families, Americans)))
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To: Willie Green
There also is 21 U.S. COMBAT brigades this dingbat failed to mention.
10 posted on 03/30/2003 9:54:05 AM PST by demlosers (resetting the record)
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To: Timm
Exactly. This again points out the left wing politics of the press. I have not seen it brought up that "maybe" Klintoon cut the military to much. Parley
11 posted on 03/30/2003 9:55:16 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Timm
No one cares about the garbage until it is too obtrusive to ignore, then a Republican has to carry it to the curb. Afterwards, he's blamed for creating the garbage, not removing the garbage sooner, and for being unprincipled about garbage in general.
12 posted on 03/30/2003 9:55:54 AM PST by niteowl77
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To: cynicom
No one complained when Clinton axed the 8 divisions.

Actually, there were many who complained.
But I can see where you might be under a false impression since Cheney and Rumsfeld were also at the forefront of many base closures as part of their effort to downsize and modernize the armed forces with high-tech bells and whistles.

13 posted on 03/30/2003 10:01:29 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Is U.S. Military Stretched Too Thin?

Sure is, thanks to Clintonsizing. Bush41 started a moderate and sensible post cold war draw down, even before Desert Shield/Storm. Clinton, along with Congress, turned that draw down into a near death spiral. At times that Congress was partly controlled by Republicans. Democrats want to cut the military for two reasons. First because like Clinton, they loathe the military, and secondly because they want to use the money to buy votes to keep themselves in power. When Republicans want to cut the defense budget it's usually because they want to lower taxes or other economic reasons.

14 posted on 03/30/2003 10:02:30 AM PST by El Gato
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willie...

Not under any false impression...Perhaps I shoud have made it plain that those that now complain of too few grunts were nowhere to be seen when clinton was using a meatcleaver on the army.

15 posted on 03/30/2003 10:08:42 AM PST by cynicom
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To: Timm
Or maybe the military is too big and we should just quit sending troops to every damn corner of the world every time the wind blows.

You know, our founders didn't much care for the idea of a standing Army--in fact, they thought so little of the idea they even gave explicit limits to military funding in the Constitution (Art. I, Section 8, Clause 12). Of course, like many of the lessons learned by these people, they've been lost in history--sort of like the "avoid entangling alliances" thing...
16 posted on 03/30/2003 10:09:59 AM PST by Viva Le Dissention
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To: demlosers
There also is 21 U.S. COMBAT brigades this dingbat failed to mention.

Really?

Well, lets call the roll and see where we stand:

1st Inf Div (M) 3 Bdes 1 bde at Ft. Riley (available) 1 bde in Kosovo (committed) 1 bde - elements in Turkey and probably Iraq (committed)

2d Inf Div 3 Bdes 2 bdes in Korea (committed) 1 bde at Ft. Lewis (Stryker Bde) - Undergoing final operational testing - not available until June

3d Inf Div 3 Bdes 3 bdes in Iraq (committed)

4th Inf Div 3 Bdes 3 bdes enroute to Iraq (committed)

10th Mtn Div 2 Bdes 2 Bdes at Ft. Drum - available

25th Inf Div 3 Bdes 2 bdes in Hawaii (available, but probably earmarked for Korea) 1 bde at Ft. Lewis (Stryker Bde) (undergoing reorg.)

82d Abn Div 3 Bdes 1 bde in Afghanistan (committed) 1 bde in Iraq (committed) 1 bde at Ft. Bragg (available)

101st Abn Div 3 Bdes 3 bdes in Iraq (committed)

1st Armd Div 3 Bdes 1 bde in Iraq (committed) 2 bde in Europe preparing to deploy (committed)

1st Cav Div 3 Bdes 3 Bdes at Ft. Hood (available, could go to either Korea or Iraq)

172d Inf Bde Alaska (avaiable, probably earmarked for Korea)

173d Abn Bde in Iraq (committed)

3d Armd Cav Regt enroute to Iraq (committed)

2d Armd Cav Regt enroute to Iraq (committed

Seems to my simple little infantry mind that we might just be stretched a tiny bit thin - sure hope the Canadians don't decide the time is ripe to invade.

17 posted on 03/30/2003 10:14:16 AM PST by centurion316
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18 posted on 03/30/2003 10:16:58 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Those who are kind to the cruel end up being cruel to the kind!")
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To: Willie Green
But with commitments in Colombia
              Stop the idiotic WOD, free up the troops.
peacekeeping duties in Bosnia and Kosovo
              That's Europe's backyard and headache.
               Free up those troops.
One Army division is permanently stationed in South Korea
              This isn't enough to hold off NK, and SK doesn't
              want us there.  Free up those troops.
If war in Iraq is important enough to fight, it is important enough
to tell our freeloading former allies to get off our backs and make
arrangements for their own defense.
19 posted on 03/30/2003 10:19:14 AM PST by gcruse (If they truly are God's laws, he can enforce them himself.)
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To: Viva Le Dissention
the views of the founding fathers in this day and age are not relevent.
20 posted on 03/30/2003 10:24:06 AM PST by DD938 (God Bless America & Great Britian ( an old Navy veteran))
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