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UK forces 'destroy Saddam statues'
BBC ^ | March 29th, 2003

Posted on 03/30/2003 10:06:28 AM PST by Sabertooth

UK forces 'destroy Saddam statues'

Statue of Saddam Hussein in Baghdad
Iraq has many statues of Saddam Hussein
British forces say they have staged a raid into the southern city of Basra to destroy a large statue of Saddam Hussein.

The headquarters of paramilitaries loyal to Saddam Hussein and a communications mast were also said to be targets in the mission, the deepest coalition incursion into the city so far.

The apparent aim of this mission was to strike a psychological blow at supporters of Saddam Hussein in the city.

As many as six Iraqi tanks and more heavy artillery were hit, but there were no known casualties on either side, commanders said.

The tank squadrons and armed infantry of the 7th Armoured Brigade met with what was described as live resistance by Iraqi forces inside the city.

One report described tanks from the Scots Dragoon Guards heading into a hail of rocket-propelled grenades, leaving behind two-inch (5cm) dents.

Three soldiers were said to have been injured in a last-minute mortar attack as they left Basra.

'It crumpled'

The tank commander who destroyed the 20-foot (six-metre) statue said it was hit in the first round of fire.

"It was a black, cast-iron statue of Saddam Hussein in a great coat with his right arm raised in the air.

"It just sort of crumpled, there was a big flash and sparks everywhere and it disappeared, it was gone. I wish it was the real thing."

British Army spokesman Colonel Chris Vernon, who said members of the Black Watch - armoured personnel carriers - had also entered Basra, said in all two statues were destroyed.

"The purpose of that is psychological," he told a news conference in Kuwait.

He said the ability of British troops to enter the city at will and destroy "representative tokens" of Saddam Hussein's regime would have sent "quite a shock" to Baathist and irregular organisations.

"Targeting and eradication of the Baath party is now the critical effect we need to achieve and the British military's main effort."



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Troops relish Basra statue raid
By Gethin Chamberlain
With the Black Watch battle group at Basra
Last Updated: Sunday, 30 March, 2003, 10:00 GMT 11:00 UK

It's 0600 and Basra is burning, black clouds of oily smoke drifting over the city to the east, the sound of gunfire rolling across the canal.

The television mast that dominated the skyline is gone and many of the militia men, who have tormented the UK troops laying siege to the city and fired on their own people as they tried to flee, lie dead.

British tanks
Tanks and Warriors made the push into the city
For the last 15 minutes the city has been rocked by huge explosions as the Challenger tanks and Warrior armoured vehicles of the Black Watch battle group launched a dramatic push into the city.

They fight their way through a barrage of mortar fire and rocket propelled grenades to a position four kilometres inside the city limits, the furthest forward they have ventured so far.

From the base of where the tower stood there are flashes of orange flame as shells explode and tracer rounds fired from the British positions on the opposite bank arc slowly overhead, glowing red as they dip towards their targets.

On the Iraqi side of the Shatt Al Basrah canal, there are two sudden, violent explosions as mortars open up on the armoured vehicles standing guard over the approaches to the bridge.

Even on the far side of the canal, the shock waves take the breath away.

But the mortar positions are quickly silenced.

Revenge raid

Just an hour after Iraqi fighters took the British troops by surprise on what had been thought to be a secure base camp, the Black Watch was exacting its revenge.

That this morning's thrust into Basra had been planned for hours did not matter: they had survived a very close shave.

It just sort of crumpled, there was a big flash and sparks everywhere and it disappeared, it was gone. I wish it was the real thing

Their commanding officer Lieutenant Colonel Mike Riddell-Webster is in the turret of his Warrior in the thick of the action.

They race into the town across the bridge, Challenger tanks leading the way, Warriors fanning out behind them covering their rear.

From every direction comes the sound of gunfire, but exposed to the heavy guns of the British vehicles, and struggling to make an impact on their armour, the defenders are fighting a losing battle.

Adrenaline rush

Everywhere Lee Webb, in the turret of his Warrior, looks there are Iraqis shooting at him, men on roofs firing rocket propelled grenades, Iraqi gunmen leaning out of windows to open up with their AK47s.

Statues and images of Saddam Hussein have been targets
Up ahead, the Challengers are pinpointing their targets, 120mm guns swinging round and taking aim.

A massive statue of Saddam Hussein is blown up, shattering as the high explosive rounds detonate on impact.

For the 21-year-old Lee, from Rosyth, it is his first real taste of action.

"On the outskirts we saw five or six camouflage nets covering their positions about 100 metres away and we hit them too," he said.

"We stayed there for maybe five or 10 minutes. We blew up some fuel tanks next to one of the bunkers and that took out the bunker as well, then we took out a big Saddam face painted on a wall."

Street fighters

Nearby is Sergeant Dougie Dunbar, 40, from Aberdeen, whose Warrior is covering the advancing tanks as they head towards the TV tower.

"The road was about five kilometres long and there were bunkers and trenches all along, so it was obviously a well prepared position," he said.

"It's my first stint over the bridge facing the mortar attacks and artillery and that's when you start to realise it's real."

As the first wave heads back over the bridge to the relative safety of the far bank, the statue of Saddam is in ruins.

It is the key target of the whole raid, a target which offers an intriguing insight into the way the British are tackling the problems posed by Basra.

During the first Gulf War an Iraqi tank commander returning to the city fired a shot at the statue.

The lack of any reaction to such an act of defiance is credited with triggering the start of the uprising in the south.

The British hope that their action may have a similar effect, showing to the civilian population that the Iraqi regime is losing its grip on the city.

But daring though the raid is, they still have a mountain to climb to avoid the dreaded prospect of street fighting.

  • This is pooled copy from Gethin Chamberlain, of The Scotsman, on the outskirts of Basra.

Reporters with the US and British military are restricted in what they can say about precise locations or military plans.
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1 posted on 03/30/2003 10:06:28 AM PST by Sabertooth
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2 posted on 03/30/2003 10:07:19 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
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3 posted on 03/30/2003 10:10:29 AM PST by mhking
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To: Sabertooth
I personally believe Saddam is gone, but the hold he has on that country is not. Destroying every symbol of his power will begin to have an effect soon. Once the civilian population finally believes he's not coming back, the tide will turn quickly against the thugs that are left.
4 posted on 03/30/2003 10:15:04 AM PST by Route66 (America's Mainstreet)
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To: Sabertooth
While I can appreciate the sentiment of the troops in destroying Saddam's statues, I dont think it is something we should be doing. As ugly and hideous as they may be, they do belong to the Iraqi people and it should be left up to them as to whether or not they are destroyed.
5 posted on 03/30/2003 10:18:06 AM PST by Enemy Of The State (TELL THOSE #@%&#&$ WITH THE LAUNDRY ON THEIR HEADS THAT IT'S WASH DAY AND WE'RE BRINGING THE MAYTAG!)
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In pictures: UK forces in Iraq

British and US Marines hunt Iraqi surface-to-surface missiles
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British and US Marines in a Royal Navy Sea King helicopter hunting Iraqi surface-to-surface missiles
British pilot Flt Lt Paul Francis at a base in Kuwait
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British pilot Flt Lt Paul Francis checks the time beside his Harrier GR7, armed with a Maverick missile, at a Kuwait base
An RAF Puma helicopter hovers over a spotcheck for weapons in southern Iraq
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An RAF Puma's machinegun is trained on an Iraqi truck as British troops search for weapons in southern Iraq
Freefall bombs stacked at a bomb base dump in Kuwait
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RAF weapons junior technician Richard Cole walks past a row of freefall bombs stacked at a base in Kuwait
Night patrol near Basra
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These British army Challenger tanks set out for a night of patrols around Basra
Tank crew awaiting orders outside Basra
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These Scots Dragoons play a waiting game at a makeshift camp, known as Bridge Four, just outside Basra
Street life in Umm Qasr, southern Iraq
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Locals leave their homes as a 42 Commando British Royal Marine looks on in Umm Qasr
Members of the 1st Battalion The Parachute Regiment carry out vehicle searches for weapons in southern Iraq
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Iraqis prepare to be frisked by members of the Parachute Regiment troops in southern Iraq
British troops meet locals in Ramala
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Captain Dai Jones of the Queens Lancashire Regiment, left, and Corporal Mark Pearsall of HQ 16 Brigade with Ramala locals
RAF member Bobbie Winterbaker
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The RAF's Bobbie Winterbaker is 18 and one of the youngest British forces members in Iraq

BBC
March 30, 2003





6 posted on 03/30/2003 10:19:49 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
I've been wondering if those statues were not a psychologically significant target;
recall that only when the statue of the founder of the NKVD (later KGB) was toppled did the crowd assault the KGB offices in Moscow.

In that light I strongly suspect that those statues are worth the powder it takes to blow them to hell.

7 posted on 03/30/2003 10:20:43 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: Sabertooth

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8 posted on 03/30/2003 10:22:25 AM PST by fuzzy122
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To: Sabertooth
We've been told that Saddam has heavily patterned himself after Stalin. All those statues, posters, banners, everything extolling the Great Leader Saddam. Mao did the same thing in China as "the Great Helmsman", and of course, Hitler idolatry went on in Nazi Germany, to cite other examples. Propaganda, the adoration of the tyrant, heavily enforced by mass terror. Orwell lives...
9 posted on 03/30/2003 10:23:02 AM PST by xJones
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To: Sabertooth
Somebody needs to post the pic of the US soldier urinating on Saddam's face in one of those little shrines.
10 posted on 03/30/2003 10:24:57 AM PST by snopercod
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To: xJones
Don't forget Lenin...


11 posted on 03/30/2003 10:28:57 AM PST by NautiNurse (Usama bin Laden has produced more tapes than Steely Dan)
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To: Sabertooth
One thing they might want to try in fact would be the following: Put up a tractor-trailer-sized billboard showing a pig doing it to Saddam Hussein in full view of the city, and have snipers sit there picking off anybody who tries to deface or remove the billboard.
12 posted on 03/30/2003 10:29:04 AM PST by merak
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To: Enemy Of The State
I disagree. Our stated mission in Iraq is to topple the Saddam regime and liberate the Iraqi people. The sooner the civilians realize this, the sooner they will be emboldened to help us (or at least not stand in our way).

Leaving the statues and murals of Saddam in place might frighten the civilians into thinking that nothing is going to change after all. We did this to them once in 1991. We need to let them know that we aren't going to make the same mistake again.

13 posted on 03/30/2003 10:29:33 AM PST by SamAdams76 (California wine beats French wine in blind taste tests. Boycott French wine.)
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To: SamAdams76
I can agree with that completely.
In fact, that very thought crossed my mind as well but I was also concerned that perhaps it could also have the reverse effect rahter than the one we hope for.

14 posted on 03/30/2003 10:41:46 AM PST by Enemy Of The State (TELL THOSE #@%&#&$ WITH THE LAUNDRY ON THEIR HEADS THAT IT'S WASH DAY AND WE'RE BRINGING THE MAYTAG!)
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To: Sabertooth
He blowed up REAL good ! . . .


15 posted on 03/30/2003 10:57:19 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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16 posted on 03/30/2003 10:58:28 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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17 posted on 03/30/2003 11:05:49 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Saddam's days are numbered!)
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To: SamAdams76
I agree. Destroying the marks of Saddam is a good thing. People will get the idea quicker.

Of course the bombing should continue. Driving tanks down the streets also gives the impression Saddam has a big problem this time.

One other thing that works wonders is getting tips from the population where the roaches are and exterminating them. Just watch for booby traps. tip, but verify before storming in, only to be met with a claymore.

snooker
18 posted on 03/30/2003 11:05:50 AM PST by snooker
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To: Sabertooth
Why can't the US do the same to Saddam's arch? (lower right)


19 posted on 03/30/2003 11:16:23 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the heads up!
20 posted on 03/30/2003 11:20:58 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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