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Wal-Mart halts N.Y. toy-gun sales
Los Angeles Times ^ | 4-11-03

Posted on 04/11/2003 8:54:51 AM PDT by Brian S

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. on Thursday suspended sales of toy guns in its stores throughout the state of New York, only hours after Atty. Gen. Eliot Spitzer sued the world's biggest retailer, accusing it of selling such toys without required safety markings to distinguish them from real weapons.

The toy guns have orange caps on their barrels, as required by federal law, but they don't have nonremovable orange stripes down the barrel's length as New York law requires, Spitzer's lawsuit contends.

Safety experts say the brightly colored markings help police officers distinguish toy guns from real weapons, and that the permanent stripes are important because the plastic barrel caps can fall off or be removed.

"In our continued efforts to be a responsible retailer, we have made the decision to suspend sales of all toy cap guns in New York," the Bentonville, Ark.-based retailer said. "This decision is based on the belief by the attorney general that some of the toy cap guns we are selling do not comply with the law."

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: badlaw; bang; banglist; dogooders; forthechildren; gungrabbers; gunsafety; loophole; newyork; ny; toyguns; toys
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1 posted on 04/11/2003 8:54:51 AM PDT by Brian S
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To: Brian S
and all toy guns are to be replaced with girly boy toys
2 posted on 04/11/2003 8:56:17 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth.....)
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To: *bang_list
Why is it that cops in the "red zone" never seem to have trouble telling when a kid has a toy gun?
3 posted on 04/11/2003 8:56:56 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("Democracy, whiskey! And sexy!")
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4 posted on 04/11/2003 8:57:45 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Brian S
Do toy knives have special markings? Toy bats, toy cars?
5 posted on 04/11/2003 8:57:49 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: Brian S
Now we need the Mattel Legislation, Kids should have toy second admendment rights!
6 posted on 04/11/2003 8:58:15 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (If I could get a degree in trivia, I would have my Doctorate!)
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To: Brian S
Ironically, they still probably sell these for some lucky tykes out there:


7 posted on 04/11/2003 9:00:07 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("Democracy, whiskey! And sexy!")
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To: Brian S
What Utter NONSENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8 posted on 04/11/2003 9:01:00 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: TLBSHOW
The toy guns have orange caps on their barrels, as required by federal law, but they don't have nonremovable orange stripes down the barrel's length as New York law requires, Spitzer's lawsuit contends.
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What's to prevent anyone from painting bright orange stripes down the barrel and around the muzzle of a S&W Mod 29? Does that make a weapon any less lethal? Yet it might make a cop a little less wary!
9 posted on 04/11/2003 9:01:07 AM PDT by night reader
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To: Brian S
So they want all toy guns to look like this?
10 posted on 04/11/2003 9:02:12 AM PDT by CJ Wolf (Future Headline: Iraqis line up to register to vote in their first democratic election.)
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To: Brian S
psychosis [sy.KO.sis] (n).

“The inability to distinguish between what is real and what is imaginary. Psychosis is a term used to describe a severe mental illness. Psychotics are characterized by a variety of symptoms that most people consider abnormal. These include experiencing delusions, such as the notion that one is being persecuted or conspired against. Psychotics may see things which don't actually exist and hear Voices (i.e. God) when no one is around. They often exhibit compulsive, irrational, ritualized behavior, esp. when such behavior serves no purpose or is even harmful or disruptive to those around them. They show no concern for others but may exhibit total self-centered behavior. Includes sociopathy, schizophrenia.”

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11 posted on 04/11/2003 9:06:18 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Brian S
This is weird. A few weeks ago one of the kids asked for a water pistol. No such thing at Walmart or Target. It can't be found. We haven't tried every toy store in town yet, we figured maybe it's a seasonal item, sold in summer only, but it always used to be a staple of kids' toys, like cap guns. I dunno, maybe they don't have those anymore, either.
12 posted on 04/11/2003 9:27:07 AM PDT by Sabatier
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To: night reader
What's to prevent anyone from painting bright orange stripes down the barrel and around the muzzle of a S&W Mod 29? Does that make a weapon any less lethal? Yet it might make a cop a little less wary!

Exactly. A moment hesitation by a cop who sees the orange on the barrel gives the bad guy a big advantage.

13 posted on 04/11/2003 9:31:43 AM PDT by Blue Screen of Death
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To: Sabatier
looks like you may be forced to buy a toy gun online in your state. I wonder what the penalties are for Toy gun traffiking across state lines?
14 posted on 04/11/2003 9:37:09 AM PDT by CJ Wolf (If I were a criminal, I'd paint the tip of my real gun orange and add orange stripes down the side.)
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To: Brian S
How is it that people and society in general have prospered and increased their well being for decades yet the politicians and bureaucrats say we must have another 3,000 laws and regulations each year on top of the 100,000+ laws already on the books... That without them people and society face "disaster". People and society have done quite well without next year's 3,000 new federal laws and regulations. Why all of a sudden can people and society not continue to do quite well without them? The fact is, they'd be better off without 99% of them.

So who really benefits from 3,000 new laws and regulations each year? -- not to mention state laws and regulations. Politicians and bureaucrats. They create boogieman problems and with a complicit media towing their boogieman problems cast a net of false fear and unwarranted despair in people.

Quite literally, they create problems where none exist. They're sick in that they chose to frighten people and foist false despair on them and do that to collect their unearned paychecks. Their job security is predicated on deceiving as many people as possible.

Fully integrated honesty is key. That we have the government we have that has gone so far off course from the government the founders created is a product of irrationality and dishonesty. Changing the laws via the "system" is almost completely useless. Politicians create dozens of unconstitutional laws before even considering repealing just one unconstitutional law. That is not a system -- it's a cluster fu*k of deception, irrationality, fraud and abuse.

Voting for the lesser of evils always begets evil. How can so many people thinking they're right be so wrong?

Wake up! Politics is not the solution -- politics is the problem.

Who are the producers?
Who are the parasites?
Praise the value producers --
Ostracizing the parasitical value destroyers.

15 posted on 04/11/2003 9:42:46 AM PDT by Zon
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To: stuartcr
Do toy knives have special markings? Toy bats, toy cars?

I guess that the NY legislature will next look at requiring Baking soda, talcum powder, and powdered sugar all be colored some pigment so as to limit the number of "false anthrax scare" cases.

16 posted on 04/11/2003 9:51:26 AM PDT by weegee (CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: Brian S
What? You mean they don't require them to be neon colored nerf guns?
17 posted on 04/11/2003 9:53:16 AM PDT by SirAllen
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To: Brian S
Have they ever used this law to prosecute "antique" dealers, people at flea markets, or garage sales?

I'm sure that there are pre-"Orange plastic law" guns in New York.

Looks like there is a loophole in this gun law.

18 posted on 04/11/2003 9:54:06 AM PDT by weegee (CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: weegee
That's about par.
19 posted on 04/11/2003 9:56:02 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: night reader
What's to prevent anyone from painting bright orange stripes down the barrel and around the muzzle of a S&W Mod 29? Does that make a weapon any less lethal? Yet it might make a cop a little less wary!

Ha! That's the first thing that popped into my mind. It has to have crossed the mind of more than one NY crook.

20 posted on 04/11/2003 10:00:30 AM PDT by B Knotts
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