The Clinton Army: [Rebuttal to] Left Claims Clinton Helped Military

NewsMax ^ | 11 April 2003 | Charles R. Smith

[Stultis]

Left Claims Clinton Helped Military

There are times that spin masters on the left get their facts so twisted that they end up looking like fools. It has been suggested by several spinners in Democrat Party ranks that it is "Bill Clinton's military" that is currently winning the war in Iraq.

The facts show that Bill Clinton halted military development, wasted critical weapons and allowed our forces to become dangerously weak.

No major weapon system was ever introduced during the Clinton years. In fact, many weapons systems were delayed or denied adequate funding.

No Patriot Here

For example, the Patriot missile was not improved during the Clinton years. The repeated pleas of U.S. military leaders that we needed some means to protect ourselves from the ballistic missile threat fell on deaf ears inside the Clinton White House.

Proposed upgrades to the Patriot were not tested, delayed or canceled by the Clinton administration in its feverish attempt to salvage the obsolete ABM treaty with the former Soviet Union. American national security came second to the wishes of Moscow.

The facts show that the Clinton administration traded and sold advanced U.S. military missile technology to China while denying funding to U.S. anti-missile systems that can counter the ballistic missile threat.

George Bush canceled the ABM treaty and immediately funded the Patriot PAC III program. However, events in the Middle East outpaced the frantic effort to ready the Patriot for war.

The war in Iraq forced the Bush administration to put Patriot PAC III into service without a formal testing regime. The PAC III has performed its job, protecting Kuwait and our troops from over a dozen Iraqi ballistic missiles.

Yet two Coalition aircraft have also been downed by the untested Patriot, an RAF Tornado and a U.S. Navy F-18 Hornet. Clearly, if the Clinton administration had allowed Patriot to be tested, the friendly fire incidents could have been avoided.

Clinton Missed the Target

The Clinton administration frequently misused, micromanaged and wasted advanced military weapon systems. Critics of the Clinton administration often cite the failed Tomahawk cruise missile strikes at a Sudanese aspirin factory and poorly targeted missile strikes at empty caves in Afghanistan.

USAF officials confirmed that the President Clinton had a history of bungling missile strikes, in particular targeting the Air Launched Cruise Missile (ALCM) by micromanagement from the Oval Office.

One specific example cited was the unsuccessful 1996 Desert Strike operation where USAF ALCMs with fragmentary warheads were incorrectly targeted on hardened Iraq bunkers on White House orders.

The White House bypassed the USAF Air Combat Command (ACC) and directly ordered B-52s to fire the ALCMs at a hardened Iraqi air defense command bunker. The frag warheads exploded harmlessly outside the Iraq bunker, causing no damage.

The Iraq bunker was destroyed later by a second, follow-on, strike of Navy Tomahawk missiles with conventional blast explosive warheads.

Bomb-Happy Clinton

President Clinton was frequently criticized in Congress and the Pentagon for being "bomb happy. " Clinton's policy of bombing with high-tech weapons rapidly used up critical U.S. military inventories. The shortages, according to DOD officials, were a direct result of Clinton's Defense budget shortfalls for the hard-pressed U.S. military.

According to Defense planners, the most critical shortfall was in Air Launched Cruise Missiles. In late 1998, Boeing was contracted by the USAF to convert the final remaining 130 nuclear-tipped AGM-86B missiles into conventional "Bunker Buster" ALCMs with 2,000-pound warheads.

The U.S. used about 330 Tomahawk cruise missiles and 90 ALCMs during Desert Fox strikes – now known as the "Monica Storm" campaign. All the USAF-launched ALCMs were Block 1 types equipped with heavy conventional warheads for bunker busting. In addition, 230 laser-guided bombs were used and about 250 dumb "iron" Mk. 82 bombs.

According to recon results of Desert Fox, the cruise missile and laser bomb attacks left most of Iraqi air defenses intact.

Era of Delay and Decay

The Clinton administration proposed that the B-1 bomber be retired early. The very same B-1 that recently dropped four 2,000-pound bombs on a bunker where Saddam may have been having dinner.

The Clinton administration delayed the Global Hawk, the Predator, the GPS-guided bomb systems and the Long Bow Apache, and wanted to trim the number of aircraft carriers down to eight.

Many of the weapons that the U.S. should be fielding now are still in development because of Clinton delays and under-funding.

The Clinton administration delayed the V-22 Osprey, F-22 Raptor, the Joint Strike Fighter and the Comanche attack helicopter. In addition, the U.S. military is still trying to make up critical shortages in the Milstar space communications program.

The Air Force, Navy and Marines are also scrambling to make up critical shortages in air-refueling tankers, frequently cut out of the Clinton budget requests.

During the Clinton years, the U.S. military had to cut valuable training, live-fire exercises and flight hours in order to meet demanding deployment funding spent in Haiti and Kosovo.

In fact, the U.S. Air Force had to turn to the United Arab Emirates in order to upgrade the F-16 Fighting Falcon. The UAE agreed to purchase advanced versions of the F-16 that the USAF could not afford. The UAE export funded further development of the F-16, which eventually made its way into the U.S. Air Force inventory.

Bill Clinton never helped the U.S. military and often hurt American national security. It is an outright lie to claim that Bill Clinton has any responsibility for the current success in the desert of Iraq.

[Joe Boucher]

Clinton helped clinton. Anything else is lies and b.s.

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[MonroeDNA]

When confronted by spinners stating this,

Just laugh.

Upproriously.

[Mrs.Liberty]

The current military is winning this war in spite of Clinton's decimation of it.

[Carry_Okie]

A thorough and stinging indictment.

[Saundra Duffy]

Bill Clinton is a rapist.

[solo gringo]

Clinton helped himself by selling the arms forces secrets for donation for his lie-bary and lots of other stuff.what he didn't sell he gave to the un and his gangerster buddies there.

[irish4]

To say that this is Clinton's military is laughable on its face. The military is more than equipment and technology. It is blood and guts and courage and sacrifice....and leadership that brings that out in others. Bush has it and Clinton does not. To compare Clinton to Bush is like comparing Pee Wee Herman to Joe Torre of the Yankees....there is no comparison.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

...Time to ask yourself...

...why isn't Friend of HILLARY...

...TOM BROKAW...

...reporting all this to US...

...while still telling US on TV...

...that there was a Massacre of Civilians...

...at the Bridge of NO GUN RI...

...by our U.S. 7th Cavalry...

...during the Korean War...

...when there really NEVER was..?


Just ask HILLARY RODHAM, who now sits on our U.S. Senate's Armed Services Committee overseeing our U.S. Military in Time of War.



Signed:..ALOHA RONNIE Guyer / Vet-U.S. 7th Cavalry's Opening Days of the Vietnam War 1965-66

http://www.LZXRAY.com/guyer_collection.htm
(Photos)

[backhoe]

Charlie Smith has a fascinating site:

-Softwar!--

[ALOHA RONNIE]

.."IS it SAFE?" = HILLARY on Armed Services Committee..

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=629

[Terabitten]

Personally... I'm very glad that although I was commissioned by Xlinton, I carried a rifle for real under President Bush.

[JoeSchem]

I ate bananas in 2002. That's why we won in Iraq. It makes as much sense as Mr. Loathe-the-Military saving us all.

Another ploy of liberals is to claim, "Well, at least Bill Clinton didn't cripple the military like conservatives said he did."

It should be remembered that Congress was pushing the Administration during this time to keep military spending at adequate levels.

[Kay Soze]

I loved it the other night when the forehead guy of Hannity and Colmes told Mike Reagan that it was Clintons army and that Pelosi has always supported the war in Iraq!

He sure must feel stupid given what Nancy Pelosi said (Again) today!

As Rush says if it was Clinton's army that gave us victory than was it Clinton's recession as well????? He put more enrgy into the economy than into the military.

[cardinal4]

Its even simpler for me to explain; I just say to the moron spinners that the Military is so good now, (Iraq and Afghanistan) because they no longer have a commander in chief who hates them. A commander in chief who no longers lies, cheats and steals from them, one who sends them in Haiti to get shot being policemen. A Cand C who wouldnt even salute the Marines at the White House. Bill Clinton asa commander in chief was an insult to the American Military. He hated them. He cut their budget, he sent them to fight political wars. He was and still is the biggest asshole of president we ever had. Now that W is C in C, there is pride in the Military again, and the Clinton spinners can go to hell.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

.."IS it SAFE" = HILLARY on Armed Services Committee..

SIGN outside HILLARY's D.C. Mansion

http://community.webshots.com/photo/65188549/66260912yikSxd

[ALOHA RONNIE]

...In Honor of our 7th Cavlary's...

...Rolling for Bagdhad...

...T'was US at the OSCARS =


http://www.tripflicks.com/pro/


Signed:..ALOHA RONNIE Guyer / Yellow Jacket Vet-U.S. 7th Cavalry's Opening Days of the Vietnam War 1965-66

http://www.LZXRAY.com/guyer_collection.htm

[conservogirl]

Isn't is true that the current deficits the Dems are whining about have been incurred in large part due to the necessity to rebuild our military and intelligence after 8 years of Clinton cuts?

Bubba "balanced the budget" with huge cuts to the Defense Department -( and creative accounting!!). The wealth of the 90s was phoney - just like our phoney sense of national security was during that time. People elected a phoney President and phoney results are what we got. But hey, "It's the economy, stupid".

[ALOHA RONNIE]

NEVER FORGET


It's
Friends:
HILLARY RODHAM
BILL CLINTON
JOHN KERRY
WALTER CRONKITE

of:
HO CHI MINH
MAO TSE TUNG
FIDEL CASTRO
SADDAM HUSSEIN
OSAMA bin LADEN

Verses:
US


F-O-R-E-V-E-R


NEVER FORGET

[ALOHA RONNIE]

...Post #10 =

...Perfect CLINTON U.S. History..

[TalBlack]

Your damn right its Clintons military. If it were not we would have more ships, planes and men to fight it. Clintons much bragged about reductions in the "size of government" were almost entirely if not ENTIRELY at the expense of THE MILITARY. You could look it up! He bragged about it, remember>

[conservogirl]

How anyone can say that Clinton deserves the credit for building our great miliatary is out of their mind! I could not beleive my ears when I heard Pelosi's remarks. Mike Savage is right - liberalism is mental illness.

[Euro-American Scum]

What would you expect from the former Rapist-In-Chief?

Biography Of An American Coward

[Oldeconomybuyer]

I don't buy any of this. It's clear that the military was reduced over the past several years under the post-Cold War "peace dividend" thinking.

However, the real difference between the current CIC and clinton is the manner in which the battle orders were given to the military by the civilian authority. I think GW set out clear objectives, then let the military run the war without the political interference which was the hallmark of the clinton administration.

This war isn't about budgets. It's about presidential leadership, clear objectives, and the understanding that the military is for breaking things and killing people.

[CyberAnt]

And ... Rush still says that the ONLY TRUE CUTS IN SPENDING during the x42 years WAS FOR MILITARY.

The reductions in the budget from 8% to 6% were said to be CUTS by the democrats. It wasn't a cut at all - it was a reduction in the INCREASED EXPENSES. Pathetic!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Clinton and his cronies tried to destroy the Military!

OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST

[Lee Enfield]

"Monica Storm"? I always just called his adventures the "Pubic Wars".

[ALOHA RONNIE]

Oooop's...

T'is Post #16 =

Perfect CLINTON U.S. History,

not my Post #10 =

My Mistake #1,000.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

Conservatism =

MADLY in Love with FREEDOM


Liberalism =

MADLY in Love with HATE

[Democratshavenobrains]

The liberals will be calling it Clinton's army 50 years from now.

[ellery]

index bump

[U S Army EOD]

About two weeks ago, I saw Barney (Fag) Frank being interviewed on CNN. He was the one that claimed it was Bill Clinton's army that won the victory.

[PeaceBeWithYou]

When Lieberals say stuff like this, they are hoping that we have forgotten.

FR Flashback Time.

Can You Name This Country?

709,000 regular (active duty) service personnel
293,000 reserve troops
Eight standing Army divisions
20 Air Force and Navy air wings with 2,000 combat aircraft 232 strategic bombers 13 strategic ballistic missile submarines with 3,114 nuclear warheads on 232 missiles 500 ICBMs with 1,950 warheads.
Four aircraft carriers and 121 surface combat ships and submarines, plus all the support bases, shipyards and logistical assets needed to sustain such a naval force.

Is this country Russia?. . . No.
Red China ? . . . No.
Great Britain ? . . Wrong Again.
France?....Nope.
USA? . . . You are still wrong.
Give up??
Well, don't feel too bad if you are unable to identify this global superpower, because this country no longer exists. It has vanished. These are the American military forces that HAVE DISAPPEARED since the 1992 election of Bill Clinton and Al Gore....Sleep well America.

Most of you prolly recognize the above, it was posted here frequently from Dec.1999-Nov.2000, as well as being circulated via email and reported on Rush.

[maxwellp]

"He was and still is the biggest asshole of president we ever had". Yes, Clinton is all that. A few years back I remember a military person responding to a similar quote I made in a forum - I think it was NewsMax - that Clinton was the most despised President by the American military in the history of the U.S.A.

I also took great pleasure in reading somewhere on the Internet today that Clinton was loudly booed by an audience in Manhattan where he made an appearance at the Beacon Theatre. And he didn't like it. I was born and raised a few blocks away from the Beacon and if I remember correctly, it's on 72nd Street and Broadway. Near the Dakota where many Hollywood libs live. And Clinton was booed here? Seems like the only place he isn't booed these days is in Europe. Well, Europe, you can have him.

[LiteKeeper]

BIG TIME, LET US NEVER FORGET, BUMP!

[Lancey Howard]

Great post!
As much as I hate to see people having to spend precious time responding to scumbag liberal simpletons like Matt Miller, it is always good to take the opportunities they hand you to pound home the facts, and pound home the truth. These are the things that fuel the liberal scumbags' worst nightmares.
Again, congratulations on a great post.
Bookmarked.

[Cvengr]

Clinton did far more to assist other third world military forces than our own,...and at our expense.

[Nick Danger]

There are times that spin masters on the left get their facts so twisted that they end up looking like fools. It has been suggested by several spinners in Democrat Party ranks that it is "Bill Clinton's military" that is currently winning the war in Iraq.

I doubt that it's even necessary to rebut this. The usual 23% will believe it, and everyone else will laugh out loud if any Democrat says it.

[goldilucky]

There's only one reason why Hillary would be placed on this committee. And that is that she is an Illuminati witch and mind control slave handler. Reference source: The Illuminati Formula used to create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave, Appendix 1, Programmers, by Wheeler and Springmeier.

It is my understanding that her role is to destroy our military from within.

[BabsC]

Didn't hitlery use money from the defense budget to pay for her senatorial campain travel and security? I don't have the references but I'm sure I read it somewhere.

[tsomer]

I saw Barney (Fag) Frank being interviewed on CNN. He was the one that claimed it was Bill Clinton's army that won the victory.

Maybe he was referring to China?

[risk]

Just laugh.

But I think it's important to raise up facts like this. I'm thinking of the set of voters who will too easily be persuaded to vote for someone other than GW next election. Those who can be reached with reason can help us ensure that GW's war on terror rolls on unabated.

There's a lot at stake now, and facts will help us reach the undecided.

[nopardons]

BTT

[Reb Raider]

Mort Kondrake said this on Brit Hume's show within the last 5 days. I almost gagged a mag right then and there. I just finished reading Deriliction of Duty and there's a boatload of information in it about Clinton and the military. In addition to all the evidence in this article, we lost alot of experienced men that just could not stomach Clinton. I have often wondered what that loss of experience cost us.

[Jimmy Valentine's brother]

Thanks for the ping. I still have that sign in my basic load of truth. I'm sure I'll have more opportunities to use it.

[SerpentDove]

[SerpentDove]

Whoops...bumped the wrong thread.....

:-S

[zencycler]

Here's another rebuttal:

Me: So let me get this straight. Bill Clinton should get more responsibility for current conditions, because he was in office for 8 of the last 10 years, and there isn't much Bush could have done in the last 2 years.

Lefty: Exactly:

Me: Good, we agree. Now that we're done talking about the ECONOMY, let's talk about the military.

[Happy2BMe]