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CNN Knew of Torture Since 1991 - Did Bill Clinton Know?
NY Times ^ | 4-11-03 | EASON JORDAN

Posted on 04/11/2003 4:30:11 PM PDT by paul in cape

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To: TopQuark
"Nazi" is an abbreviation for the National Socialist Party. Were you joking?

I doubt he was. I had an argument with a couple of libs here at work a couple of years ago about this very subject. "Were the Nazi's a party of the right, or a party of the left". They said, with some justification, that the name really doesn't matter. After all Saddam's forces were the Republican Guard, and that doesn't mean they liked Ronald Reagan, or George Washington for that matter. Many sociast countries have "Republic" in their name, even though they are about as from from a "Republic" as they could be.

However the Nazis used government to control society, in economic as well as social affairs. That's makes them socialist in my book, and thus leftists. They certainly weren't the party of "Rugged Indivdualism" were they, nor were the Facists, nor the Japanese militarists, although the latter was farther from the general socialist ideal than the others. Some say the Nazi party was a creation/tool of the German Industrialists, but in reality they were used and controlled by the Nazis just as everyone else was.

41 posted on 04/11/2003 5:56:11 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Pharlap
Then he would have had to call Hillary by either a hotel phone or more likely a cell phone to warn her not to go to the Hill on the morning of 9/11

That assumes he wouldn't have *wanted* her to go to the Capital. He might have tried to talk her into going to the WTC, but that would have been kind of obvious after the fact if it came out, wouldn't it?

42 posted on 04/11/2003 5:58:37 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato
Some say the Nazi party was a creation/tool of the German Industrialists, but in reality they were used and controlled by...

But they were not owned by.  State ownership of the means of production is part of the definition of socialism, isn't it?
43 posted on 04/11/2003 6:08:13 PM PDT by gcruse (If they truly are God's laws, he can enforce them himself.)
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To: PhiKapMom
All that knew about this, including Mr Clinton, who I am sure knew, are war criminals and should be tried as such. Just think of the crimes and the suffering that could have been stopped and how the course of history could have been changed. I am dead certain that they have the same arrangements and sickening knowledge about the Palistinian terrorists and I know Clinton was syphoning money from Arafat in some fashion. They make me want to puke! THEY ARE TERRORISTS THEMSELVES AND WAR CRIMINALS.
44 posted on 04/11/2003 6:15:24 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts (I see the world and my surroundings in a new light and I still hate all things Clinton)
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To: paul in cape
It's the
Collaborator News Network!
45 posted on 04/11/2003 6:24:01 PM PDT by DWPittelli
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To: spoiler2
...right here in America, as we first, lawfully got rid of our own dictator.

WHat makes you think we got rid of them. Seems to me they still have quite a lot of power and are running things covertly. IMO it harder to keep track of their evil doings now.
46 posted on 04/11/2003 6:24:02 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Prayers for all)
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To: paul in cape
Not to be too churlish with you, but if a thread is marked as having been written by someone, in this case Eason Jordan in The New York Times, but it's actually written by the poster on Free Republic, in this case you, technically a blatant misquote is taking place.
47 posted on 04/11/2003 6:24:20 PM PDT by beckett
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To: TopQuark
All the 'secular' Arab regimes are old-fashioned Gramscian fascists, particularly the Baath party and all its ugly little terrorist off-shoots. I hate to sound pessimistic, but I don't see how any democratic-republic will work in that part of the world. We could help the Iraqis build a system similiar to ours and within 5 years it will be destroyed by tribal and religious infighting and shoot-outs over arguments about which caliph did what, when.
48 posted on 04/11/2003 6:25:29 PM PDT by southern_living (Save Western Civilization)
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To: The G Man
First:
CNN = Clinton News Network

Second:
CNN = Communist News Network

Third:
CNN = Celebrity News Network

And most recent:
CNN = Coverup News Network

49 posted on 04/11/2003 6:26:29 PM PDT by CedarDave (Why is "Karbala Katie" so anti-American?)
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To: paul in cape
Would the Clinton White House blackmail CNN into providing favorable news coverage for Crime Central, in exchange for not blowing the whistle to either Saddam (who would kill their employees) or the public (who would be shocked and awed by CNN's flimsy ethics)?

Just asking.

50 posted on 04/11/2003 6:27:53 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: hoosiermama
"Seems to me they still have quite a lot of power and are running things covertly."

Ouch! Correct, but at least these days we Freepers can post anything we want about the Clintons without fearing a "knock at the door........"

I remember the dark days of '98, when many of the more outspoken on this forum were truly concerned for their own ongoing well-being, it had become that bad.
51 posted on 04/11/2003 6:33:13 PM PDT by spoiler2
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To: paul in cape
It's of course sickening, but not surprising, that CNN knew of the torture with specificity and did nothing. But realistically, folks, there are no revelations here. Is there one person here who didn't already know in their heart of hearts that Saddam was an animal who mercilessly tortured people? I doubt it. There was certainly no doubt in my mind about it.

MM

52 posted on 04/11/2003 6:34:34 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
I am with you 100% -- have a hunch we are seeing the tip of the iceberg.

Figured that the people screeching the loudest had something to hide. Looks like it will turn out to be fact!

53 posted on 04/11/2003 6:51:15 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: PhiKapMom
I wonder what CNN had to say about Saddam Hussein in Dec. '98, when Clinton bombed Iraq.
54 posted on 04/11/2003 6:55:01 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Howlin
And I will bet they turn up evidence that Saddam was linked to OKC Bombing and thus the reason that Clinton had the building destroyed in two weeks. He did not want to go to war against Saddam so he hid the connection.

I want that connection to come out so bad because once and for all we can put an end to the Clintons!
55 posted on 04/11/2003 6:56:07 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: billhilly
I think you are right about Waco. Might behoove us to start looking back at what did happen! Something about Waco other than the obvious death of those people never made sense.
56 posted on 04/11/2003 6:58:10 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: spoiler2
It's the FBI files and any other information they may still have in their possession that concerns me. We know they used the Internal Revenue system, removal of jobs, etc when in office....
Now they have money (from God only knows where) and I'm sure they are buying favors in other ways... just as they did with the Lincoln Bedroom. Their end game is POWER.
Look how Hillary has optained position.....she's the Jr Senator..but you wouldn't know it. She manipulate by any means to get POWER. She's not doing time in prison right now, because on that power. Hopefully like SH her time will come. WHat did she know and when did she know it? ANd how much did she pay to cover it up.
57 posted on 04/11/2003 6:58:24 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Prayers for all)
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To: PhiKapMom
CNN, Citing Communications Intercept, Reports Hussein Is Dead .
58 posted on 04/11/2003 7:00:18 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: spoiler2
Let the light of TRUTH shine into the darkness of endless LIES that these slime propagate, to cover the real motives of their actions.

I am with that 100%!

59 posted on 04/11/2003 7:00:39 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: hoosiermama
That's a good question. I have sent out some emails to people with media backgrounds along with Government asking them who in the world investigates something like this. Hope they know because I don't have the slightest idea.
60 posted on 04/11/2003 7:04:53 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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