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To: ISawIt; piasa
Then why abuse me?

Sorry; no abuse given or intended, my comment at 26 did not include you at the time.

piasa -- thanks for the 'attitude adjustment'! LOL
Based on what I saw at both the "Warblog' and the referenced 'FreeMikeHawash' sites, they are not giving the whole story, as you provided with the findlaw doc.
Warblog said:

He has so far spent just about two weeks in jail
without being charged with a crime and without
being questioned or told why he is detained.
He is being kept in solitary confinement.
As I also said, the FreeMike page gave that same impression, vouched for by his colleagues from Intel.

His request for 'solitary confinement' at a federal prison also makes sense; he is in "Administrative Detention" and not in criminal or pre-trial, and by law cannot be placed with those so held.

At the same time, why did it take from March 20 to April 7 to get a valid hearing and detention order from a judge? They may call it 'Administrative Detention', but it is still an arrest -- he is not free to leave, and as ISawIt posted the cite from the Supreme Court, habeas corpus applies. A criminal arrest requires presentment to a court within 48-72 hours; AD should not be any longer, as they already have the requisite info to effect the arrest/detention; two plus weeks to put this in front of a judge is - IMHO - unconscionable, and violates his rights as a citizen.

If it's proven that he indeed is a 'sleeper', or assisted in some way beyond giving funds to what was an IRS-determined charity that will come out at the Grand Jury presentment. If his testimony, or the cases against those the feds wish to use him against fall through and a "No Bill" comes out of the Grand Jury, will he be compensated for the turmoil the feds put him and his family through?

59 posted on 04/13/2003 10:47:15 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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To: brityank
I'm not a lawyer, obviously, but this is a "material witness detention" and I would think then that this may not be a "criminal arrest." Not all material witnesses are accused criminals, but rather, individuals whose testimony could make them a target for being murdered by criminals or terrorist organizations. Material witnesses may be willing or unwilling to be witnesses, but the detention is made for people who are unwilling to testify out of fear of retaliation.

This guy is not being charged with a crime, he's being detained as a material witness in at least one Grand Jury case to testify against people who are charged with crimes- apparently the "Portland Group."

Also, I see nothing here (in the findlaw docs) to indicate that this is his very first appearance before a judge. Since this Judge mentions it involves an existing Grand Jury case I suspect he has been before the grand jury case's judge earlier. It being a Grand Jury case, his appearance there is not going to be public info, at least not now.

I'm curious about why he had trouble getting back into the country a few years ago, and needed Nextel's help.

62 posted on 04/15/2003 2:20:37 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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According to the World Socialist Web Site- not exactly my favorite hang out on the web- Mr. Hawash's self-appointed good buddy Steve McGready appeared in a little demonstration to protest the war. So in addition to being a blatant spinner regarding the bogus atrocity of "solitary confinement," well, McGready and Hawash also have bad taste in friends. If they really are friends, and McGready isn't just using this for his own agenda.

(snip from the World Socialist web site ...)

In Portland, Oregon, 5,000 demonstrators took to the streets to protest the war, as well as the role of the media and the Bush administration’s attacks on civil liberties. The marchers stopped for speeches outside the offices of KOIN, a local TV station, and the Oregonian newspaper, where speakers denounced the sanitized images and manipulation of the news of the war by the corporate media.

The March terminated at Pioneer Couthouse Square where several speakers addressed the crowd. Steve McGready, a friend of Maher “Mike” Hawash, spoke about Hawash being detained as a material witness in a “terrorism investigation.” Hawash, a Palestinian-born US citizen, was arrested where he worked at Intel Corporation three weeks ago and has since been held in seclusion, though no charges have been filed against him. McGready said that Mike Hawash is a prisoner of war.(/snip)

They are of course lying here because Hawash has not been held in seclusion but has requested to be segregated from the general population, which is appropriate in that he's a witness. Looking at the Findlaw case, it's clear he has a lawyer to talk to. And of course Hawash hasn't been charged - he's a WITNESS to another case which is in the hands of a Grand Jury. We charge SUSPECTS, not WITNESSES who are not suspects.

Judging from Mr. McGready's stupid comment from the World Socialist Web site, McGready is a nut. He says Hawash is a prisoner of war- which is silly since no one has accused Hawash of fighting against the US or even of fighting for anyone else. Which war is McGready thinking of, the War on Terror, the war in Afghanistan, the war in Iraq, the Israeli conflict with Hamas, or some civil war in Africa? And why would McGready associate his friend with any war when according to McGready, his friend Hawash is "apolitical" and the only thing suspicious about Hawash are his donations to Global Relief and for all anyone knows, Hawash was taken into custody to testify in a case against the Mafia? What does McGready think he knows about Hawash? Was Hawash captured while in uniform, carrying arms openly, under the command of an organized force? I think not- he cannot be a POW then. McGready is not a very good spokesman for Hawash.

63 posted on 04/15/2003 2:58:46 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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