Conservatives, liberals fear broader anti-terror powers - sides unite to protest Justice's push

The Dallas Morning News ^ | April 13, 2003 | By MICHELLE MITTELSTADT / The Dallas Morning News

[Roscoe]

Why should I?

You can't.

[Free Vulcan]

I guess you are a good teacher. Pat yourself on the back.

[mtbopfuyn]

"I am very concerned at the idea of getting rid of the sunsets," Mr. Norquist said.

I nearly quit reading after the first paragraph but am glad I didn't as I'm very concerned about sunsets too. I especially enjoy the orangy purply ones.

[Free Vulcan]

Besides, that seems to be the only way you can communicate, wouldn't want to overwhelm you with anything mentally heavier.

[THUNDER ROAD]

The law is very clear and easy to read.
People who embrace this garbage show nothing
but contempt for the law and everything
that's made this country great

Everything in that post was
Well said Triple A !

.....THUNDER......

[Jhoffa_]

And now, groups such as the Eagle Forum and American Conservative Union are setting aside historic policy differences with liberal-leaning organizations such as the ACLU and the Electronic Frontier Foundation to tackle a range of post-Sept. 11 actions they view as threats to freedoms.

I think this is great..

Freedom is everyones concern. It's the ultamate bi-partisan political issue.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend.. "

[RJCogburn]

Equating the government of the United States with Saddam's vanishing regime.

Oooh, boy, you are streeeetching. Clearly not my point, as you must know.....mustn't you?

[Roscoe]

Clearly not my point.

Nope.

[E Rocc]

When people in power are saying "The Patriot Act actually strengthened constitutional protections," It doesn't take chicken little to see red flags popping up.

P. J. O'Rourke once said that when politicians phrase things in ways that sound like something no one could logically object to, that's when they should be watched the closest. He was referring to environmentalism, but it applies to the nisnamed and misbegotten "Patriot Acts" as well.

-Eric

[Libertarianize the GOP]

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list

[sinkspur]

As I said, guys like CJ, Roscoe and you are just "mystery meat".

All of whom seem to get under your very thin skin.

Hey, you've got your social circles and I've got mine.

[cinFLA]

If you can't state at least where going too far would be, honestly, you just need to consider de-Freeping yourself for being completely unable to honestly discuss a question that could not be more on topic.

Never said the government is perfect. But YOUR side seems to see it as completely evil. It is time fore YOUR side to YOU are going to far and consider de-Freeping yourself for being completely unable to honestyl discuss a question that could not be more on topic.

[eno_]

But YOUR side seems to see it as completely evil.

No, not completely evil, just not to be trusted outside of a tightly controlled set of constitutional limits.

Can you argue the government is trustable enough to be allowed to stretch or overstep those limits? Are there any signs that individuals like Horiuchi or Braga are being brought to justice - or any other signs that overstepping bears a price? And is there any reason to think a future Clinton or Clintonesqe presidency would not abuse Patriot Act powers?

[cinFLA]

But why do you say your list of top five enemies include:

Bush Jr.
Hutchinson
Jeb Bush
Ashcroft

[cinFLA]

And is there any reason to think a future Clinton or Clintonesqe presidency would not abuse Patriot Act powers?

I doubt you even have any concept of the Patriot Act powers you are complaining about. Never heard any of you anti-Bush people speak specifics, only that all of us that are against drug legalization are for baby killing.

[cinFLA]

If you can't state at least where going too far would be

Going too far is siding with the drug-legalizing, gun-grabbing socialists.

[cinFLA]

The constitution is very clear on this. Why is it they can now log all of your credit card purchases and tap your phone without notice?

OK. If it is so specific, please cite it. Or shut up!

[Torie]

Here is a radical thought. Just deal with the ideas presented and the merits of, or lack thereof, of the posters. Kick your fixation with personalities. Personalities don't matter much except for human interest value. Granted, it is helpful to know a poster's area(s) of expertise and experience, and most of us do reveal that. To suggest that a poster lacks credibility because they desire privacy is really just spam city.

[tpaine]

Going too far is siding with the -- -- gun-grabbing socialists.
117 -cin-


Which, - at FR - is your 'circle', many of them posting here on this thread, in total agreement with 'big government' policies.
The hypocricy of your faction here has no end.