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Give It to Them Straight [Article on How to Combat Anti-Gun Arguements]
Armed Females of America ^ | April 2003 | John Ross

Posted on 04/14/2003 3:01:59 AM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender

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The biggest mistake we make is failing to take the moral high ground on our issue, and letting our enemies define the terms.

We need to remember this when discussing 2nd Amendment principles with others.

1 posted on 04/14/2003 3:01:59 AM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
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2 posted on 04/14/2003 3:02:37 AM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
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3 posted on 04/14/2003 3:02:56 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Great listing! I'm bookmarking it. But it's "argument," not "arguement."
4 posted on 04/14/2003 3:04:38 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Do You have a ping list?
If so, please put me on it.. ;o)
5 posted on 04/14/2003 3:07:44 AM PDT by Drammach
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To: Jesus_is_Lord_God
Welcome to Free Republic.

Remember, Bush didn't get elected, he was appointed. By a judge who was appointed by his father. Just a thought.

Did you forget to close your sarcasm tags or are you serious?

7 posted on 04/14/2003 3:37:10 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can)
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
So, you want to institute a system where the weak and elderly are at the mercy of the strong, the lone are at the mercy of the gang. You want to give violent criminals a government guarantee that citizens are disarmed.
Worth repeating.
8 posted on 04/14/2003 3:39:39 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Will we have the courage and committment to turn-out a popular war-time republican president in the event he re-authorizes the 'assault-weapon' ban? If we don't then we lose again and perhaps for good.
9 posted on 04/14/2003 4:51:48 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Nice article.

THEY SAY: There are 27,000 gun deaths a year in the U.S.

WE SAY: Not sure what to say here, except that 40 or 50% of all violent crime is committed by young black males, probably in inner cities, so that perhaps the problem is with a specific segment of the population, concentrated in specific areas, and that a gun ban won't solve the problem. I believe a significant portion of these deaths are accidental also.

Wondering how you counter this argument. Seems like the city of Richmond, VA has had some success here, though I don't know exactly what they did.

11 posted on 04/14/2003 5:44:39 AM PDT by Sam Cree (HHD)
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
The title of this article is:
Give It to Them Straight [Article on How to Combat Anti-Gun Arguements]
There is a fallacious assumption here. That is that you can counter anti-gun arguments. Countering arguments only works if both sides are willing to accept reason and logic. Can you imagine upChuck Schemer or Hitlary looking at a well reasoned article showing the value of guns in society* and saying, "Oh wow I've been wrong all this time?" Never happen. The anti-gunners have no use for reason and logic. Gun control is their religion They are devoted to it like a Mayan priest sacrificing to his god. Gun haters don't care about reason and logic, it is part of their intrinsic belief system that only the government should be allowed the power of arms.

They will lie and cheat in a heartbeat to advance that agenda. They have no conscience when it comes to serving their false god, the increase of state power. They are not succeptable to logic or reason because gun control to them is based on faith. They feel no pity for those who are harmed by criminals because they were disarmed by government. They have no remorse when their evil laws cause thousands to be killed. They will not quit because you show them the error of their ways because their firm belief is that they are not and can not be wrong about guns. They will not quit until they are dead or until those of us who believe in freedom are dead or totally enslaved.

*More Guns Less Crime by John Lott conclusively proves this

12 posted on 04/14/2003 5:50:20 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: samtheman
So, you want to institute a system where the weak and elderly are at the mercy of the strong, the lone are at the mercy of the gang. You want to give violent criminals a government guarantee that citizens are disarmed.

I would add: "...where women are at the mercy of rapists and perverts..." This tends to bring in the women's votes, being a sort of feminist issue. The "equalizer" argument really works well here.

13 posted on 04/14/2003 6:07:17 AM PDT by SpinyNorman
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Excellent article...
14 posted on 04/14/2003 6:22:53 AM PDT by lsee
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To: Stoner
You can't be added to the bang list because it doesn't work that way. The list is the articles that are gun related. But you can bookmark it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/involved?group=152
15 posted on 04/14/2003 6:24:06 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: from occupied ga
Maybe you can write an article on how to convert others who may not be as extreme as the Schumers and the Boxers.

Oh, wait, I think that's what this article is.

Since this article covers it, what's your solution for the Schumers and the Boxers?
16 posted on 04/14/2003 6:28:26 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: SpinyNorman
SpinyNorman wrote: I would add: "...where women are at the mercy of rapists and perverts..." This tends to bring in the women's votes, being a sort of feminist issue. The "equalizer" argument really works well here.

As a woman and gun owner, I can tell you that usually falls on deaf ears; the majority of women voters are perceived by politicians to be anti-gun. Most women today, particularly suburbanites are staunch anti-gunners despite the fact they lack ANY knowledge on the issue--relying on "experts" such as Rosie O'Donnell to keep them informed. Remember, 'children first'.

Excuse me now, I must go set up my 'Rosie' target.

KA-POW! KA-BOOM!
17 posted on 04/14/2003 6:56:34 AM PDT by butynbranes2
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
True story:

Friend 1, who is not convinced on the 2nd Amendment, to me, at the time the lefties were planning a show of civil disobedience in NYC: "What if they all had guns?"

Me: "Hmmm."

Me to Friend 2, later: "Friend 1 said, about the lefty demonstration, 'What if they all had guns?'"

Friend 2: "So we take them on."

Question: Which friend is the freeper?

18 posted on 04/14/2003 7:07:06 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender; BOBWADE
Ping, BTTT, and great post.
19 posted on 04/14/2003 7:08:44 AM PDT by zip (I love being right)
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To: Shooter 2.5
This article isn't going to convert anyone and you know it. The way to get rid of the upChuckies and Feinsteins is to put pressure on the wishy washy Republican squishes so they vote pro gun and the fanatics' bills don't advance. Unfortunately the country's largest gun control lobby, the NRA doesn't do this. Instead they run around assuring the anti-gunners that they will help them pass their bills.
20 posted on 04/14/2003 7:15:48 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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