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What If Women Ran the World?
BusinessWeek ^ | Tue Apr 15, 2003 | Thane Peterson

Posted on 04/15/2003 12:23:32 PM PDT by WaveThatFlag

When I look at the news these days, I can't help but wonder: Wouldn't we be a lot better off if women were in charge, given all the violence and atrocities perpetrated by men and male-run governments in places like Bosnia, Rwanda, and Iraq (news - web sites)? Would U.S. troops be in Iraq today if, say, Hillary Clinton (news - web sites) were President, and not George W. Bush?

Sure, woman leaders are sometimes as tough and warlike as any man. Britain's Margaret Thatcher comes to mind. But in my experience, women tend to pursue conciliation and cooperation long after men would have been at each other's throats. And, as the heroism of American women soldiers and pilots in Iraq has shown, when it's really necessary to fight, women hold their own.

Besides, once war ends, it's often women who step in first to help the orphans and other victims of battle. In Rwanda, for instance, 10% of the population was slaughtered in the 1994 genocide, mainly men. According to Elizabeth Powley in an article in the International Herald Tribune, about 70% of the population immediately after the genocide was female, so women set up numerous nongovernmental organizations to deal with the devastation. Today, some seats in Parliament and local councils in Rwanda are reserved only for women.

EUROPE'S LEAD. I suspect that the rising percentage of women in governments around the world is a very significant trend. It's a controversial notion, but some political scientists believe that when women [and other minorities] reach a "critical mass" of around 30% in an elected body, they often start to act together as a group outside party lines. And, in some governments around the world, the percentage of women has hit that threshold, according to the Inter-Parliamentary Union, a Geneva, Switzerland-based organization of Parliamentary governments that tracks the numbers [www.ipu.org].

Nordic countries lead the trend. Women hold 45.3% of the seats in Parliament in Sweden, 38% in Denmark, 37.5% in Finland, and 36.4% in Norway, according to the IPU. All told, the percentage now tops 30% in the Lower Houses of a dozen nations, including the Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Argentina, and Mozambique.

At the low end are several countries in the Middle East: Iran, 4.1%; Egypt, 2.4%; Jordan, 1.3%; and Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates at 0%. The U.S. ranks 59th, in the middle of the pack, with 13.6% of the seats in Congress and 14 of the Senate's 100 seats held by women. But, according to the Center for American Women & Politics at Rutgers University, women now hold 30% or more of the seats in six state legislatures: Washington, Colorado, Maryland, Oregon, Vermont, and California. Washington is tops, with 36.7%.

NO WIMP. I realize that the notion that the world would be more peaceful if women ran it is a hard one to test. But I checked in with Swanee Hunt, director of the Women & Public Policy Program at Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government. She's no wimp when it comes to war. As President Clinton (news - web sites)'s ambassador to Austria from 1993 to 1997, she pushed for a quicker intervention to stop the atrocities in neighboring Bosnia. Out of that experience, she has formed Women Waging Peace, a global initiative to get women involved in peace initiatives in conflict areas around the world.

Daughter of Texas billionaire H.L. Hunt, she has used her wealth to fund initiatives aimed at helping women and children. A mother of three, she has also found time to compose a classical piece called The Witness Cantata as a memorial to victims of war. Her husband, symphony conductor Charles Ansbacher, is scheduled to conduct the work on Good Friday, Apr. 18, at Boston's Arlington Street Church. Here are edited excerpts of our talk:

Q: What's the idea behind Women Waging Peace, and why should it be a goal to get women involved in the peace process in places like Iraq and Bosnia?

A: When I was the ambassador [to Austria], Bosnia was right next door, and there was a terrible refugee flood into Austria. What I noticed quickly was that the 60 people who were sent up from Croatia and Bosnia for the [peace] negotiations were all men -- even though there were more women PhDs per capita in the former Yugoslavia than in any country in Europe. It made me wonder why the warriors involved wanted to make sure there were no women.

That question stayed in the back of my mind. After I left the State Dept. and came to Harvard, I asked some people at the U.N. why there were no women on the negotiating team in the African conflicts. A U.N. official told me: "That's very clear. The warriors won't have them because they're afraid the women will compromise." I thought: "Bingo!" That is, after all, the whole point of negotiation. I wondered if there was something to that.

Q: Where did you go from there?

A: I brought, ultimately, women from 25 different conflicts to Harvard for a week or two, listening to them exchange their strategies. Some were pacifists, some not -- I certainly am not. There were lawyers, investigative reporters, members of parliament, the whole range.

What we found is that there were some extraordinary strengths among these women that would be very useful in trying to avert or stop violent conflicts. The women were bridging the divide. They tended to not see the person on the other side as the demon. They would often talk about how, "We're all mothers, and as mothers we understand each other." One of the sayings was, "As mothers, we cry the same tears."

Q: How is women's participation going in Afghanistan (news - web sites)'s new government?

A: Before the Taliban, women represented about 50% of the medical doctors and 40% of the government officials. So, [when] a meeting was set up of the warlords to determine who would be in the transitional government, there was lots of pressure from the [Bush] White House and the State Dept. to ensure that the U.N. would insist that there be lots of women. A U.N. official told me that eventually one of the warlords said, "All right. We'll have the same percentage of women as there are in the U.S. Congress."

Q: Which is about 14%. Is that good or bad?

A: Well, we wish he had said Sweden.

Q: Haven't women been marginalized since then?

A: I'm told that many of those women [in the Afghani National Assembly] have suffered. And the war in Iraq has intensified the pressure on [Muslim] women [generally]. This conflict has been painted as the West vs. Islam. The husbands and male leaders say to women, "Show us that you are a good Muslim woman, and don't have any of those Western ideas."

Q: What's the potential for women playing a role in peacemaking in Iraq?

A: It's very important that Iraqi women be perceived as major untapped resources. They can play a key role as planners, leaders, and organizers of the reconstruction. That includes the transitional justice [system] that must be established. My experience with women in postconflict situations is that they very much have their fingers on the pulse of the community.

I've talked to maybe 500 women from conflict situations around the world [about] difference between men and women. Mary Okumu, who has worked on the conflict in the Sudan for years, once told me: "What men and women want in these situations is very different. The men want a whole state. The women want a safe place for their families." Maybe that's because of social roles, maybe it's because we're hardwired differently. But they all say, "We approach it differently."

Now, I'm very aware that many of the great peacemakers in the world are men -- Nelson Mandela in South Africa, for instance. We're not talking about all-men-this and all-women-that. It's just that the Bell curves are in different places.

Q: Do you think that the rising number in parliaments around the world will mean that it will become less likely that countries will go to war in various situations?

A: My educated guess is, yes. [Among] American men and women, there was a very significant gender gap [on going to war in Iraq] -- as much as 15%, depending on the question asked -- before the war. [But] if you convince women that it's about protection- -- such as [asserting a] September 11 connection [with] Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) -- then those numbers start eroding.

Q: Would it make a difference in voting patterns if 30% or 40% of the U.S. Congress were women?

A: I can't give you the numbers. But my experience in interviewing women over the years is that women tend to think of themselves as less competent than they actually are, [while] men tend to think of themselves as more competent than they actually are. Women are helped, therefore, when they have a larger group with which to identify. It connects to how good women are at relationship-building, collaboration.

Q: If I said what you're saying, many women would call me sexist.

A: Exactly. It's classic. Most of these stereotypes about men and women are grounded in reality. It's just that they are abused, used in ways that hurt men or hurt women. That's why we hate stereotypes.

Q: The other striking thing we see in the news these days is some very brave women soldiers in combat.

A: I've done some studying of women in combat -- not of Americans but of guerrilla fighters. For instance, I had [South Africa's] Thandi Modisi in my home for dinner, and I said, "Thandi, tell me, what did you do before you were in Parliament?" She said, "I was a [guerrilla] fighter."

I [also] spent a day interviewing an Eritrean woman who lead her platoon into battle several times. A very, very gutsy woman. She said she was particularly effective because the men would have been mortified to have not followed her into battle, even when they were petrified. She said the Ethiopians had a saying: "Oh, please God, don't let me be captured by an Eritrean woman." So there are other sides to this.

I don't think that looking for peaceful solutions is the job of cowards. There's tremendous damage anytime you drop the bombs. And I say that having implored [General] Wesley Clark to start the bombing in Kosovo sooner than he did. Military intervention is a tragic choice -- though sometimes the less violent of all of the choices.

Q: Why did you implore General Clark to drop the bombs earlier?

A: I had watched the genocide in Bosnia, and I was convinced that Slobodan Milosevic (news - web sites) would respond to military force and [nothing] else.

Q: Any further thoughts?

A: The interesting question is whether the women warriors have the same motivation as the men warriors.

Q: What's your answer?

A: I don't have an answer. I only have a niggling thought that there may not be the same kind of enjoyment of aggression that I see on the playground with my son and his friends. I'm convinced that boys and girls are different.


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To: MacDorcha
I truly believe that ends and means can be balanced. To me, this produces the quality of "excellence." But when either the "means" or the "ends" are dishonest, then I have a problem. But I agree with you, there are times when the ends can justify the means. Just, not all the time. Thanks for your note. Regards.
181 posted on 04/15/2003 3:00:04 PM PDT by noname
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To: Dutchgirl
Two points: Hillary is hiding her true agenda. She knows she cannot run on her ideas for this country, so she does create her own illusions to satiate the American populace.

As for Dr. Rice, she is not an unwed/divorced mother who made poor choices and is being bailed out by the state via social programs paid for by me.

She worked for everything she has, was careful, and deserves respect.

The two cannot even be compared.
182 posted on 04/15/2003 3:00:38 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: MacDorcha
The post I was responding to said WOMEN had sympathy for socialism. I note you exchanged the word "feminism" for women. You do know they are not synomous I hope.
183 posted on 04/15/2003 3:03:08 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
Name one Republican who said women shouldn't vote?

I am a women, and I've said if a woman is receiving a social program of any type, she should not be allowed to vote. Her greater concern is receiving more of my tax money, and I am made irrelevant because of it.

The East and West Coasts will always be liberal, but as soon as they get married, have kids and move to the suburbs, then they are in my territoy.

The Liberals cannot keep this voting block, as it is churned every ten years.
184 posted on 04/15/2003 3:03:19 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: mabelkitty
Name one Republican who said women shouldn't vote?

There are plenty on this very site! Furthermore there are many websites devoted to repealing the 19th Ammendment. These are all conservative/republican men, though not surprisingly men with any political clout, for obvious reasons. I cannot name a Republican of any note who has said women shouldn't have the vote, because if one had, he would not be of any note! He would have committed political hari-kari! Funny how that works isn't it? :)

185 posted on 04/15/2003 3:09:12 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
"It's not about women per se, it is the entire concept of individual liberty and equal opportunity for the greatest number of citizens put into practice which creates relative prosperity"

Sure, I agree with that, if we would really follow the concept of individual liberty, there could be no "minorities." Yeah, I believe that the concept of individual liberty has allowed the U.S., and before it, the UK, to have reached prosperity and greatness unparalleled in history.

186 posted on 04/15/2003 3:11:52 PM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Interesting Times
If this bozo read Deborah Tannen's work, on men and women in the work place, he would know that man are interested in following the rules and women want everyone to be able to play. That is the difference between Rats and republicans too. Rats have given up their alpha male in order to follow the lead of Rodney King.
187 posted on 04/15/2003 3:12:08 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: Lorianne
Actually, I consider that "feminism" and socialism are synonomous, although they shouldn't be.
188 posted on 04/15/2003 3:14:12 PM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Lorianne
That post just relegated your ideas to "I can't prove it, but I did see it" Hillary type of VRWC garbage.

I am disappointed.
189 posted on 04/15/2003 3:18:03 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Lorianne
"All the great socialist leaders and writers have been MEN !"

True, most of the great leftists have usually been males, as have the great classical liberals and advocates of individual liberty, or the great musicians, chefs, or anything else, for that matter.

I kind of think there is a female tendency to sympathize with socialism because women natually look for a protector, and then, while being mothers, spend a good bit of their time regulating someone else's life (children's) in minute and intimate detail.

However, I might attempt to get off of the thin ice onto which I have walked by noting that my mother was, and my wife and daughter are, staunch, no nonsense conservatives.

In fact my daughter cast her first vote for W. She had registered and done it without so much as discussing it with me, I was quite proud of her.

190 posted on 04/15/2003 3:20:51 PM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: mabelkitty
I have read that young single females tend to vote left, while older married ones vote more conservatively.
191 posted on 04/15/2003 3:22:02 PM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: mabelkitty
Well stick around you'll hear the sentiment expressed here many times that women should not be allowed to vote. I don't have to "prove it" to you. You'll see it.

The fringe elements of any group (and this applies to Liberals as well) hurt their prospects with the vast and more reasonable middle.
192 posted on 04/15/2003 3:25:37 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Sam Cree
Not necessarily.

See my posts on the husband/father-state.
193 posted on 04/15/2003 3:25:39 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Lorianne
I highly doubt a person who may vote Conservative would run to the DNC because someone said they wanted to repeal a woman's right to vote.

I've seen it posted here several times, but that still does not make it a mainstream idea that is going to turn off women voters.

It also doesn't mean men within the Republican party have that view.

However, I have made the case for it, and, again, I am a woman.
194 posted on 04/15/2003 3:27:44 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: BagCamAddict
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195 posted on 04/15/2003 3:34:38 PM PDT by BagCamAddict
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To: mabelkitty
I am confused. Aren't women allowed to run for office? Aren't they allowed to vote? Don't they make up the greater pct of voters?

Is our writer suggesting that we should AAP for elected officials?
196 posted on 04/15/2003 3:35:03 PM PDT by DougF
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To: dennisw
Toilet seats would be spring loaded so men would have to hold them up with one hand while they pissed.

Urinals would be banned along with the high-flow flush toilets.

197 posted on 04/15/2003 3:35:28 PM PDT by Mark Turbo (The saga continues.)
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To: Lorianne
You're right, I should've said a majority of women "voters" gave us eight years of Clinton and a majority of male "voters" voted against Clinton.
198 posted on 04/15/2003 3:36:40 PM PDT by Nephi (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: mabelkitty
I didn't claim repealing women's right to vote was a mainstream idea. I said such sentiments coming from self-identified Republicans, politially hurts Republicans.

More voters are swing voters than are stict party loyalists. If there is a perception that one party OR the other is slipping too far toward their extreme fringe elements, a correction occurs. Again, this applies equally to Democrates and Republicans.

199 posted on 04/15/2003 3:45:01 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: WaveThatFlag; All

What If Women Ran the World?

When I look at the news these days, I can't help but wonder: Wouldn't we be a lot better off if women were in charge

How about every person run the world as they see fit so long as they abide by the brief constitution posted below. Obviously most people would be ruling their own world which in turn would benefit the rest of the world in their own small way. Other people would become giants in the realm of bring technology advancements to market. In that way they'd rule a bigger world while brining more benefits to people and society.

 

* The purpose of conscious life is to live happily. 
* The function of government is to guarantee those conditions that let individuals fulfill their purpose.  Those conditions can be guaranteed through a universal constitution that forbids the use of initiatory force, fraud, or coercion by any person or group against any individual. 

***
Article 1

No person, group of persons, or government shall initiate force, threat of force, or fraud against any individual's self or property. 

Article 2

Force shall be morally and legally used only in self-defense against those who violate Article 1. 

Article 3

No exceptions shall exist for Articles 1 and 2. 

The above is from: http://www.neo-tech.com/pax-b1/a1.php

Introduction

Voting for the lesser of evils always begets evil. How can so many people thinking they're right be so wrong?

Before voting for a politician make sure that they address Issue 101. Demand that of media outlets too.

Issue 101 -- The House of Cards

How is it that people and society in general have prospered and increased their well being for decades yet the politicians and bureaucrats say we must have another 3,000 laws and regulations each year on top of the 100,000+ laws already on the books... That without them people and society face "disaster". People and society have done quite well without next year's 3,000 new federal laws and regulations. Why all of a sudden can people and society not continue to do quite well without them? The fact is, they'd be better off without 99% of them.

So who really benefits from 3,000 new laws and regulations each year? -- not to mention state laws and regulations. Politicians and bureaucrats. They create boogieman problems and with a complicit media towing their boogieman problems cast a net of false fear and unwarranted despair in people.

Quite literally, they create problems where none exist. They're sick in that they chose to frighten people and foist false despair on them and do that to collect their unearned paychecks. Their job security is predicated on deceiving as many people as possible.

It cost more than just two trillion dollars a year to fund government abuse. That abuse hinders people's development, especially children being indoctrinated rather than educated, harms the economy and causes boom and bust cycles in markets.

Flushing that money down the toilet -- save for military defense spending -- would be better for individuals, their families and society. That's a different way of saying, can't we just pay congress to stay home and not leave their houses. Surely we'd be better off. Politicians and bureaucrats are sick and need your help.

Fully integrated honesty is key. That we have the government we have -- delivered by both Democrats and Republicans -- that has gone so far off course from the government the founders created, is a product of irrationality and dishonesty. Changing the laws via the system is almost completely useless. Politicians create dozens of unconstitutional laws before even considering repealing just one unconstitutional law. That is not a system -- it's a quagmire of deception, irrationality, fraud and abuse.

Politics is not the solution -- politics is the problem.

Who are the parasites?
Who are the producers?
Ostracizing the parasitical value destroyers
Praise the value producers

Step one for helping politicians and bureaucrats:
Get your head out of their sandbox.

Step two: Demand that they address Issue 101. Do the same with the media.

Step three: Ostracize government officials that fail to honestly address Issue 101. Do the same with the media.

Step four: Champion the science and business communities -- often under relentless attack by the government -- that create jobs, necessities, luxuries and ever greater advancements that support human life, family and society.

200 posted on 04/15/2003 3:47:48 PM PDT by Zon
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