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New Clues Emerge in Hunt for Saddam
Reuters ^ | 04/17/03 | Mary Gabriel

Posted on 04/17/2003 11:00:29 AM PDT by bedolido

DUBAI (Reuters) - Two Arab-language newspapers placed Saddam Hussein and his son Qusay in Baghdad last week on the day U.S. tanks drove to the heart of the capital and Iraqis toppled a massive statue, symbolically ending his 24-year rule.

Al-Jazeera on Thursday showed what was thought to be Saddam's hastily-abandoned last abode in Baghdad.

A half-filled glass of water and a stained cup stood on a desk next to crudely sketched military plans in an office where Jazeera said the Iraqi leader taped messages entreating his people to fight U.S. invaders.

A suitcase was left next to an unmade bed.

But despite the best efforts of U.S. and British intelligence services, U.S. special forces, tens of thousands of U.S. troops and scores of international media, there was no sign of the ousted Iraqi leader.

White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card said in an online discussion he believed Saddam was dead.

But a survey of 7,122 people published by Gulf News on Thursday showed a majority believed he was alive, hiding outside Iraq.

U.S. officials have stressed that while they launched the war to end Saddam's rule the success of their military campaign does not hinge on his fate.

"If we don't find every one of them, but we can account that the regime is not in place, then we have succeeded and we believe we have succeeded," Brigadier General Vincent Brooks told journalists at U.S. Central Command in Qatar.

Still Washington has put a price on Saddam's head and made him the Ace of Spades in a pack of cards depicting most-wanted Iraqis. And on Thursday, U.S. Central Command announced the capture of Saddam's half-brother Barzan, a former head of Iraqi intelligence.

For some of the citizens who lived under his iron rule Saddam remains a threat as long as he is at large. Others are following the denouement of a real-life thriller.

"It is like a film. They want to see the end," said one man who lived in the Mansur district Americans bombed in an attempt to kill Saddam.

BAGHDAD CLUES

Clues emerged on Thursday concerning the elusive leader's movements in the dramatic days when U.S. troops pressed toward Baghdad and ultimately took control of the battered city.

London-based Al-Hayat and Asharq al-Awsat newspapers quoted witnesses as saying Saddam appeared near the Azamia mosque in northern Baghdad on April 9 the day Iraqis, with the help of U.S. tanks, pulled down a massive statue of Saddam and dragged its decapitated head through the streets.

That corroborated a report from a man who described himself as a former Iraqi army officer. He told Reuters he saw Saddam at about that time outside a mosque in the Aadhamiya district of north Baghdad.

Al-Hayat quoted witnesses as saying Saddam arrived at around noon in a convoy of three cars, accompanied by his younger son Qusay and his body guard, Al Amin Abd Hamed Hamoud.

Dressed in military fatigues, Saddam stood on top of one of the cars and delivered a half-hour speech telling the gathering: "I am fighting alongside you in the trenches," Hayat quoted one witness as saying.

Witnesses told Hayat the Iraqi leader and his entourage departed about 12 hours before a U.S. air raid on the area which they said destroyed part of a graveyard behind the mosque.

LAST HOME?

Jazeera on Thursday showed a relatively modest Baghdad home where the Iraqi leader, who had built himself sumptuous palaces, was said to have spent the last days of his rule.

A sitting room ringed with yellow-and-green striped sofas was where Jazeera said Saddam held his last meetings with the Revolutionary Council and senior aides.

An adjacent room, sparsely furnished with a conference table covered in white fabric and surrounded by white plastic chairs, appeared to be the room where Saddam was shown in a videotape meeting with his sons and advisers in the days after the war began.

Jazeera said the room was also where Saddam's last speech was recorded.

An office seemed to be the one where Saddam, looking tired and wearing large glasses, filmed a statement aired on March 20, three hours after being targeted by the U.S. air raids that opened the war.

An Iraqi flag stood in the small office, an Iraqi eagle symbol hung on drawn blue curtains. A presidential stamp on an ink pad rested on a sturdy desk near a piece of white paper that read in Arabic: "The President orders the Revolutionary Council..."

In the bedroom, a uniform with a shoulder insignia that Jazeera said indicated the highest rank in the Iraqi military hung on a clothes tree. In the bathroom was a box of Cartier cologne.

The last occupant of the house also left the Koran opened at al-Hijr. The first lines read:

"The day will surely come when the unbelievers will wish that they were Muslims. Let them feast and make merry; and let their hopes beguile them. They shall know the truth."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: clues; decapitation; embeddedreport; hunt; iraqifreedom; saddam

1 posted on 04/17/2003 11:00:29 AM PDT by bedolido
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To: bedolido
He's dead Jim...
2 posted on 04/17/2003 11:16:59 AM PDT by el_texicano
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To: bedolido
This is all propaganda to propagate THE MYSTERY!
3 posted on 04/17/2003 11:17:57 AM PDT by rj45mis
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To: bedolido
"Al-Hayat quoted witnesses as saying Saddam arrived at around noon in a convoy of three cars, accompanied by his younger son Qusay and his body guard, Al Amin Abd Hamed Hamoud.

Dressed in military fatigues, Saddam stood on top of one of the cars and delivered a half-hour speech telling the gathering"

Right... This guy never stays any place longer than 12 minutes (the time it took the B1 Bomber to arrive at the resturant) but he will stand on a car for 30 minutes makeing a speech in a city swarming with US Marines, Army
and air assetts...

This is disinformation, and not very good disinformation at that.
4 posted on 04/17/2003 11:20:05 AM PDT by konaice
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To: bedolido
I know a restaurant that has an ample supply of ground meat.
5 posted on 04/17/2003 11:40:36 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: bedolido
Saddam’s hiding in Hollywood, send in the Marines and take no prisoners!
6 posted on 04/17/2003 11:45:01 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: bedolido
Andrew Card said in an online discussion he believed Saddam was dead. But a survey of 7,122 people published by Gulf News on Thursday showed a majority believed he was alive

Well, that settles it then. When there are no facts in evidence, we'll ask a bunch of people who don't know either, and take the majority guess! That's journalism for ya.


7 posted on 04/17/2003 12:04:18 PM PDT by Nick Danger (We have imprisoned them in their tanks -- Baghdad Bob)
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To: bedolido
I'm making a Saddam mask for Halloween - should it be flat or simply in pieces? I have to know.
8 posted on 04/17/2003 12:12:24 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough ("Thank you very, Mr Bush!")
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To: bedolido
Maybe he's in an underground bunker, with enough food and supplies for months.
9 posted on 04/17/2003 12:59:56 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: bedolido
""The day will surely come when the unbelievers will wish that they were Muslims. Let them feast and make merry; and let their hopes beguile them. They shall know the truth."

Guess that day hasn't come yet..

10 posted on 04/17/2003 1:05:36 PM PDT by tuckrdout
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To: Nick Danger
He's either dead or alive. I feel strongly both ways. He may also still be in Iraq or else he's hiding in another country.

Seriously, it looks like a lot of rumors and polls are being passed of as news. Of course most of these polls are simply distilled rumors.
11 posted on 04/17/2003 1:10:38 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: bedolido
Reuters.

'Nuff said.

12 posted on 04/17/2003 1:12:22 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: bedolido
White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card said in an online discussion he believed Saddam was dead.

But a survey of 7,122 people published by Gulf News on Thursday showed a majority believed he was alive, hiding outside Iraq.

So someone who has access to facts and data is counterbalanced by a bunch of people who have nothing more that a feeling? Reuters is just horrible.

13 posted on 04/17/2003 1:25:18 PM PDT by kidd
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To: bedolido
I saw videotape of that "hideout". It looked like a place where one of Saddam's doubles and a camera crew were making those last "Saddam" TV appearances. I find it hard to believe that the real Saddam would stay in such modest aboveground quarters when he had lavish underground bunkers to occupy.
14 posted on 04/17/2003 1:25:22 PM PDT by ravinson
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To: bedolido
A half-filled glass of water and a stained cup stood on a desk next to crudely sketched military plans in an office where Jazeera said the Iraqi leader taped messages entreating his people to fight U.S. invaders.

....."half-filled glass" my ass,.....that glass is half-EMPTY!
15 posted on 04/17/2003 1:29:21 PM PDT by TheCause (Pacifists are the Paracites of Freedom, Pacificism in the face of terrorism is TREASON)
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To: konaice
The turnaround time was 45 minutes, not 12.
16 posted on 04/17/2003 1:29:25 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
"The turnaround time was 45 minutes, not 12."

From the time the B1 got its orders till the time the
bomb hit was 12 minutes.
Our ground assetts had to leave the area (or risk getting hit) as soon as they knew the B1 was enroute.

So the Resturant was only un-observed for 12 minutes.

Granted, Saddam was in there for 45 minutes or so (and may still be in there takeing a dirt nap for all that is known).

IF i was part of Saddam's inner circle and I wanted to get away I would put out the word that Saddam was still alive. Better to have everybody chase him rather than me.

We own the bomb site now, and if we can find the DNA of even the terrorists that flew into the World Trade center, we should be able to find out who was in the resturant.
17 posted on 04/17/2003 8:27:22 PM PDT by konaice
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To: bedolido
But a survey of 7,122 people published by Gulf News on Thursday showed a majority believed he was alive, hiding outside Iraq.

This is the stupidest thing I ever heard of. Voting on a matter of fact has no effect on the answer. He's dead or he isn't. I don't care if 100% of their population "feels" he is alive. He's dead or he isn't.

18 posted on 04/17/2003 8:36:38 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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