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BATTLE ISLAND
popular mechanics ^ | april 2003 | JIM WILSON

Posted on 04/17/2003 1:05:11 PM PDT by Lokibob

 
 
 
 
 
Larger than a city, the Joint Mobile Offshore Base will keep freedom fighters safe in hostile terrain.
BY JIM WILSON
Illustration by John Berkey

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Experience in constructing ultralarge vessels and deep-water offshore drilling platforms has convinced naval architects it is possible to build a floating military base by connecting individual, self-powered modules.

Early in 2003, as the buildup for a war with Iraq shifted into high gear, American diplomats began calling on their counterparts in the Middle East and southern Europe. They asked a simple favor: permission to use local bases for attacks on Iraqi weapons factories and military installations. As the classified cables reporting on the lack of progress in working out agreements flowed back to the State Department, it slowly became evident that America had fewer friends than once thought. It became equally apparent that if the United States wanted sure footing for future battles against terrorism, it would have to look beyond diplomatic arrangements. And so, almost overnight, an idea that had hovered in the shadows since the mid-1990s began to make sense. If American forces could not count on friends, they would have to rely upon technology in the form of a new type of naval vessel, a mobile offshore base.

 


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TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: battle; island; military; technology

1 posted on 04/17/2003 1:05:11 PM PDT by Lokibob
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To: Sparta
Thought you might be interested ping|
2 posted on 04/17/2003 1:09:29 PM PDT by MattinNJ
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To: Lokibob
Looks like a giant sitting duck to me, but what do I know?
3 posted on 04/17/2003 1:10:16 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Lokibob
Interesting, but it had better have top notch defenses and each module better have multiple uses in case one is sunk on the way to the operating theater.
5 posted on 04/17/2003 1:13:14 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: BeechF33A
Sure sounds like a "Death Star" too me.
6 posted on 04/17/2003 1:13:59 PM PDT by Ultrconservative
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To: Lokibob
I found a web site with a the vital stats for Battle Island. Sounds like it will be popular with the troops garrisoned there.

http://www.nysparks.state.ny.us/parks/
7 posted on 04/17/2003 1:16:11 PM PDT by Media Insurgent
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To: Lokibob
looks like one of those toys for kids,that when open have helicopters,tanks,planes,hhhhmmm,old technology then.
8 posted on 04/17/2003 1:17:49 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: Media Insurgent
??????
9 posted on 04/17/2003 1:19:36 PM PDT by Lokibob
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To: Cyber Liberty
Looks like a giant sitting duck to me, but what do I know?

So do aircraft carriers, but with all their high-tech stuff, I'm sure they're pretty safe.

I'd say what COULD wreak havoc on such a platform would be Mother Nature. Ain't no stopping a typhoon!

10 posted on 04/17/2003 1:20:32 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Bumperootus!)
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To: Media Insurgent
Never mind, I got it. Call me slow.
11 posted on 04/17/2003 1:21:16 PM PDT by Lokibob
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To: ErnBatavia
Read the article, they address the hurricane problem.
12 posted on 04/17/2003 1:22:23 PM PDT by Lokibob
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To: Lokibob
Another "Quagmire"
Another "Vietnam"

Wrong thread, sorry.

BTW: read the article on this, thought it was a cool idea.

13 posted on 04/17/2003 1:22:25 PM PDT by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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To: Lokibob
It will be commanded by Admiral Darth Vader. By that time the Constitution will be a distant memory.
14 posted on 04/17/2003 1:24:47 PM PDT by Destructor
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To: green team 1999
Think of the B-52. That plane was designed to be a very rugged platform to put a lot of stuff in. It's still being flown fifty years after it was first deployed. Same thing here. Weapons technology can change five times from the time the keel is laid to when it is first deployed, it won't matter. A design like this s/b very flexable and easy to update with the latest in technology, just like a B-52.
15 posted on 04/17/2003 1:26:11 PM PDT by Billy_bob_bob ("He who will not reason is a bigot;He who cannot is a fool;He who dares not is a slave." W. Drummond)
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To: Lokibob; Cyber Liberty
Jihad Magnet Obsessing Bombers
16 posted on 04/17/2003 1:30:28 PM PDT by WaveThatFlag (Run Al, Run!!!)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Possibly not. If you put it reasonably far out to sea, you could just tell all small boats "don't even thinking of coming within a mile of us." A U.S.S. Cole attack would be impossible.

An AEGIS system could shoot down incoming missles.

Internal sabatoge is always a possibility. However, the thing is so big that a dissident sailor could do only so much damage.

Basically, it's like taking a regular base, and surrounding it with miles of water.
17 posted on 04/17/2003 1:31:33 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: ErnBatavia
So do aircraft carriers, but with all their high-tech stuff, I'm sure they're pretty safe.

carriers move and try to hide on a big ocean,but by the looks of this base,is like an oil platform.
now that is a sitting duck.

18 posted on 04/17/2003 1:41:34 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: Lokibob
This is the kind of concept I read in a book a couple of years ago called SeaFighters by James Cobb, in which a floating offshore base was used to support LCAC's which had been modified and turned into a new class of gunboats.

Maybe reality is starting to catch up with fiction.

19 posted on 04/17/2003 1:44:08 PM PDT by JMK
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To: Lokibob
Offshore platforms are dangerous enough without being on one that is a target.

Serving on this thing would be like serving on a first generation submarine. Best stick to personel with no dependants.

So9

20 posted on 04/17/2003 1:53:10 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (JDAM the Arabs, Full Speed Ahead)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Looks like a giant sitting duck to me, but what do I know?

The question I'd like to ask is: Why bother? A conventional aircraft carrier can do the attack role, an LHA, etc. Amphibious group can do the beach attack role, and so on. Why bother joining them all together?

A potential answer is survivability. I think it's relevant that the U.S. did not lose a single fleet carrier in WWII that was launched after December 7, 1941 (Franklin came close, but made it back). Once we learned a bit about designing for damage control (Essex class was much better than Yorktown class) we had a really tough ship.

Part of that is recognizing that the best defense is a good offense, which starts a long way away with Tomcat/Phoenix and proceeds through layers and layers of active defenses. Then we add a lot of armor at the end, plus defensive measures like multiple hull construction to address torpedo attacks.

Considering the restricted mobility, and the vulnerability of the pontoon hulls to torpedo damage (a runway with the middle thousand feet sunk is not much use), it's not clear to me that this is any more survivable than a carrier battle group, nor more versatile than a carrier battle group plus amphibious group, and so on.

And then there's the cost . . . .

21 posted on 04/17/2003 2:49:39 PM PDT by Gorjus
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To: MattinNJ
Thanks.

Bookmarked
22 posted on 04/17/2003 8:26:55 PM PDT by Sparta (Use Bashir Al-Assad for target practice)
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