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Chinese SARS patients hidden
Washington Post via Seattle Times ^ | April 20, 2003 | John Pomfret

Posted on 04/20/2003 12:33:20 AM PDT by sarcasm

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To: riri
It already has come to my city.
21 posted on 04/22/2003 4:09:16 PM PDT by Allan
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To: Ma Li
If you have been reading the posts here for news then you know the score. Please take care of yourself and keep us informed. We are genuinely glad to have you here, welcome.
22 posted on 04/22/2003 4:20:32 PM PDT by the rifleman
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To: Allan
I haven't read any news about New York recently, either. Last week the papers said we had 10 cases, and now, nothing. What happened to those cases?
23 posted on 04/22/2003 4:28:44 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: Allan
I wonder if any Chinese health authorities did their training in Canada.
They seem to have a similar code of conduct and respect for the public's 'right to know' .

In spite of your generally acerbic statements about Canada, one can't equate the left-wing statist politics in Canada with the barbarism of China. Of course, one's expectations and standards are higher for a Western democracy.

24 posted on 04/22/2003 6:06:19 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: sarcasm
Chinese SARS patients hidden

"Old story"

25 posted on 04/22/2003 6:07:48 PM PDT by _Jim (z)
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To: riri
Wait until it comes to your town or city and you want to know where the outbreaks are and the officials won't tell you-

... and they start moving citizens into the formerly empty Y2K Internment Camps and people who youy used to talk to on a daily basis start disappearing and the city streets become deserted and no one can be reached on CB Channel 19 and the skies darken and the depths of hell open up ...

Don't you think you'll *know* there's a problem when your neighbors, friends, co-workers or the checkout girm down at the super market start feeling ill - how is that sort of think hidden able to be absolutely hidden?

Uhh - on second thought - do you have any neighbors, friends, co-workers or any girls down at the super market check out?

26 posted on 04/22/2003 6:18:28 PM PDT by _Jim (z)
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To: _Jim
It's an oldie, but it's a goodie.

My point being that it's a sad state of affairs when a government risks the lives of its citizens and the citizens of other countries while whisling in the wind, hoping it will all go away.

This technique will eventually backfire. I hope that this is not the real call.

27 posted on 04/22/2003 6:20:03 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: Dec31,1999
Last week the papers said we had 10 cases, and now, nothing. What happened to those cases?

Standard bureaucratic policy - they were undoubtedly simply administratively erased AKA 'taken off the books'.

28 posted on 04/22/2003 6:20:29 PM PDT by _Jim (z)
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To: Dec31,1999
This technique will eventually backfire.

WORD already has it they have 'snapped to' - butts were fired - their careers and futures were ended in the Communist Politburo ...

29 posted on 04/22/2003 6:22:55 PM PDT by _Jim (z)
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To: Mitchell
Which western countries are democratic, as opposed to representative republics?

A democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's best to have for dinner.

30 posted on 04/22/2003 6:28:39 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: _Jim
Standard bureaucratic policy - they were undoubtedly simply administratively erased AKA 'taken off the books'.

Meanwhile, the deadly virus is spreading.

I think it would be better for people to take action now even if the threat isn't real in order to prepare for the real thing, because if this isn't it, we will be prepared.

31 posted on 04/22/2003 6:42:57 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: Dec31,1999
I agree with your sentiment. Still, there's a difference between a nanny state and a brutally repressive government. I oppose the nanny state, and I fully recognize that statism may lead, step by step, to full-fledged repression. It's also true that the left-wing democracies of the world give succor to actual horrors in other places, like Iraq and Cuba.

But there's been no Tiananmen Square massacre in Canada. Canada is much freer, politically, than China; there's no comparison. One could argue, I suppose, that Canada is headed in the wrong direction, while China is headed in the right direction from an abysmal low (since things have improved since the so-called Cultural Revolution) -- but China has a long way to go before it meets even minimal standards of human rights, and it's not clear that it's even really on a path in that direction.

32 posted on 04/22/2003 6:45:42 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: _Jim
WORD already has it they have 'snapped to' - butts were fired - their careers and futures were ended in the Communist Politburo ...

True, but that doesn't help matters very much now, if the the disease has already escaped a particular area.

The world has a vested interest in being more prepared to prevent millions of deaths worldwide, I would think. We need a strong authority to protect our citizens, after all.

33 posted on 04/22/2003 6:51:02 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: Dec31,1999
Meanwhile, the deadly virus is spreading.

Where?

Here in the states?

Say it isn't true!

(The CDC stats don't say any such thing!)

34 posted on 04/22/2003 6:55:11 PM PDT by _Jim (z)
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To: Dec31,1999
if the the disease has already escaped a particular area.

I know this is rocket science for a lot of people, but, the defensive barrier (so to speak) needs to be set up further back now. It's *not* like we've passed some sort of 'point' that marks 'the end of the world' in terms of the spread of this disease. We are the *best* prepared we've ever been in history for such 'contagion'. So is the world for that matter ...

35 posted on 04/22/2003 7:01:07 PM PDT by _Jim (aa)
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To: Mitchell
I think that China is a new experiment whereby the communist ruling authorities are trying to establish a state with a limited amount of economic freedom, but without the polital, religious and ideological freedom that we in the US see as primary.

My fear is that they will succeed, not fail.

For one, it's easier to pacify the populace with a bit of economic freedom and no political freedom than to acqknowledge both the former and the latter.

36 posted on 04/22/2003 7:03:14 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: _Jim
We are the *best* prepared we've ever been in history for such 'contagion'. So is the world for that matter ...

Honestly Jim, I don't see how. The only way to be truly prepared is to have thousands of hospital beds at the ready for such a case as an epidemic, which is not what we, or anybody else, has now, or can afford.

In the event that the disease became widespread, the hospitals would be quickly filled, as they are right now in Hong Kong and Toronto, leaving the rest to their own devices.

37 posted on 04/22/2003 7:11:11 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: Ma Li
Welcome to Free Republic. Thanks for the perspective from China. Keep posting!

I especially like your tagline.

38 posted on 04/22/2003 7:15:05 PM PDT by Semper911 (For some people, bread and circus are not enough. Hence, FreeRepublic.com)
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To: Dec31,1999
I think that China is a new experiment whereby the communist ruling authorities are trying to establish a state with a limited amount of economic freedom, but without the polital, religious and ideological freedom that we in the US see as primary.

I think the experiment could fail due to a SARS epidemic. Freedom of speech would undoubtedly help the medical community fight an epidemic; absence of such political freedom (resulting in a propaganda cover-up) may ultimately cost thousands of Chinese lives. The lesson is about to be driven home that political freedom isn't a 'threat to political stability,' it's a vital feedback mechanism to prevent a society's government from doing something really, really stupid.

39 posted on 04/22/2003 7:16:24 PM PDT by JoeSchem
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To: Dec31,1999
Honestly Jim, I don't see how.

What date do you have showing on YOUR calendar?

Do you *honestly* think we were better prepared medically and scientifically in 1950 to track down, to isolate this contagion?

You've got some 'splainin to do!

40 posted on 04/22/2003 7:23:04 PM PDT by _Jim (aa)
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