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William Safire: Follow the money
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/04/21/nyt.safire/index.html ^
| April 21, 2003
| William Safire
Posted on 04/21/2003 5:15:37 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
Edited on 04/29/2004 2:02:25 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Why do you suppose France and Russia — nations that for years urged the lifting of sanctions on oil production of Saddam's Iraq — are now preventing an end to those U.N. sanctions on free Iraq?
Iraqis now desperately need all that the country's oil production can buy. But Jacques Chirac cares little about reconstruction of basic services; he is more concerned about maintaining U.N. control — that is, French veto control — of Iraq's oil.
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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chirac; moneytrail; oilforfood; putin; williamsafire
To: Cultural Jihad
To: Cultural Jihad
We should go ahead and sell what we want, when we want. After all, there's no way the Axis of Weasels can pass a Security Council resolution that would declare us in violation of the Iraq sanctions.
Declare that the $10 billion owed by Iraq under Saddam to Russia for unused tanks and planes will be repaid on the day Vladimir Putin repays the debt incurred by Russia under the czars.
Ka-boom! All alleged Iraqi international debts need to be collected from the Saddam Hussein household, and not from Iraq.
To: Cultural Jihad
... Then follow the money ...
No. Cherche la femme. Or in this case, la weasel.
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posted on
04/21/2003 5:27:55 PM PDT
by
Asclepius
(to the barricades)
To: Cultural Jihad
We do not need UN approval to buy Iraqi output ourselves? The downside? We have to tolerate those who will say, "See, I told you it was all about oil."
The upside? We stick it up the UNs nose and let them know that we finance them and not the other way around.
In fact, I'd subtract one dollar of remaining US support to the UN for every dollar of Iraqi reconstruction that we have to buy.
In fact, we don't need UN approval for anything.
To: Cultural Jihad
These nations be accursed for their greed in the face of humanitarian need. Their words and deeds put the lie to all that the U.N. claims to stand for in their lofty founding documents.
These are not leaders, they are small men with small minds, and no hearts and no vision. While they wag their fingers at the U.S. and call us land-pirates, we find they have already held the future of the true landowners (the Iraqi people) hostage to their buried treasure of oil.
To: Cultural Jihad; Grampa Dave; Miss Marple; MeeknMing; JohnHuang2; Sabertooth; Shermy
What other money trails need to be followed? Few doubt that vast Iraqi assets have been secretly transferred out of the country for years, and especially in the prewar months. This is done through cut-outs, phony foundations, numbered accounts, intelligence proprietaries, leveraged currency speculation through proxies in unregulated hedge funds and a hundred other financial devices. Taken together, Saddam's huge haul is now terrorism's central bank account.Very nicely tied to Mad Ivan's bribe threads.
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posted on
04/21/2003 5:36:17 PM PDT
by
BOBTHENAILER
(Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
To: Cultural Jihad
Specter gets it...
"Sophisticated international blackmail" is what Senator Arlen Specter called it
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posted on
04/21/2003 5:38:12 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
To: anniegetyourgun
A few weeks back I posted an article from last fall's WSJ suggesting that the UN might be holding $10 or $20 billion in oil-for-food money and refused to make an accounting. A few days ago an article suggested that it might be as much as $40 billion.
It's definitely time to take the gloves off and end this corruption.
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posted on
04/21/2003 5:38:20 PM PDT
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: Cultural Jihad
Colin Powell apparently believes that Chirac's new fondness for sanctions could tie up Iraqi oil production with litigation for years. His advice to President Bush is to pay the ransom but nibble away at the sanctions with limited resolutions. I think we should confront the extortion scheme head on and let Chirac use his veto to isolate France further. Powell can't be that dumb, can he? He still wants the medals and acclaim of a tour of France after he leaves office?
The Iraqis should be protesting at the Palestine Hotel, where the media is, every day, demanding that the UN go, return funds its holding, and have a fully disclosed audit of the program. Should claim that France are babykillers, harming hospitals, and acting like colonialists.
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posted on
04/21/2003 5:42:45 PM PDT
by
Shermy
To: Cicero
It's definitely time to take the gloves off and end this corruption. And the UN should disclose the program, and where the money is. It's up to papers like the WSJ to push this. They have business savvy, and the lefties have no interest in exposing the UN.
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posted on
04/21/2003 5:45:17 PM PDT
by
Shermy
To: Cicero
I look forward..but with small hope that there will be an accounting.
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posted on
04/21/2003 5:45:34 PM PDT
by
MEG33
To: Cultural Jihad
" Sophisticated international blackmail' is what Senator Arlen Specter called it yesterday."I happened to hear him say that yesterday. It was an interesting way of putting it.
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posted on
04/21/2003 5:46:23 PM PDT
by
cake_crumb
(UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
To: BOBTHENAILER
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posted on
04/21/2003 5:49:19 PM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
To: Cultural Jihad
Great op/ed by Safire as usual, BTW.
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posted on
04/21/2003 5:50:59 PM PDT
by
cake_crumb
(UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
To: BOBTHENAILER
...you mean
THIS ONE? Or
THIS ONE? This should hit the U.S. networks tonight. Some people will begin to sweat bullets. One of these stories contains a link to another story that states that there are boxes labeled "United States," "Security Council," and "France" that are full of papers to be translated. This is going to be fun.
To: Cultural Jihad
Where now are the Europhiles, the apologists for the U.N., the Molly Ivans' of the world, saying "We should listen to France" (she actually wrote an op-ed piece with that title).
Frauds and thieves, all of them!
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posted on
04/21/2003 5:52:47 PM PDT
by
THX 1138
To: Cultural Jihad; BOBTHENAILER
Excellent find and post.
Speaking of following the money, please go to this post by Ivan to really follow the money from Soddomite to a MP in the UK.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/897567/posts George Galloway, the Labour backbencher, received money from Saddam Hussein's regime, taking a slice of oil earnings worth at least £375,000 a year, according to Iraqi intelligence documents found by The Daily Telegraph in Baghdad.
A confidential memorandum sent to Saddam by his spy chief said that Mr Galloway asked an agent of the Mukhabarat secret service for a greater cut of Iraq's exports under the oil for food programme.
He also said that Mr Galloway was profiting from food contracts and sought "exceptional" business deals. Mr Galloway has always denied receiving any financial assistance from Baghdad.
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posted on
04/21/2003 5:54:45 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
To: Billthedrill; Grampa Dave
One of these stories contains a link to another story that states that there are boxes labeled "United States," "Security Council," and "France" that are full of papers to be translated. This is going to be fun.I was talking about the second of your two, hut they're both great. I'm gonna have to check out the one about the boxes with the cute labels.
You are right. THIS SHIITE IS ABOUT TO START HITTING THE FAN!!!!!
And man is it ever gonna be FUN. I don't think I'll ever get tired of saying I TOLD YOU SO.
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posted on
04/21/2003 6:14:29 PM PDT
by
BOBTHENAILER
(Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
To: BOBTHENAILER
I hope that I get to hear you tell the left wingers, "I told you so for at least two more decades!"
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posted on
04/21/2003 6:18:37 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
To: Grampa Dave
hope that I get to hear you tell the left wingers, "I told you so for at least two more decades!"You and me both.
It will be particularly sweet when they find the boxes labeled "DNC", "Clinton/Daschle/Pelosi", "Sierra Club", "Natural Resources Defense Council", and what was the group so helpful to Reno's jihad against Elian Gonzales? "World Council of Churches"?
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posted on
04/21/2003 6:32:46 PM PDT
by
BOBTHENAILER
(Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
To: Howlin
Another oil for food ping!
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posted on
04/21/2003 6:35:50 PM PDT
by
MizSterious
(Support whirled peas!)
To: MizSterious
Why do you suppose France and Russia nations that for years urged the lifting of sanctions on oil production of Saddam's Iraq are now preventing an end to those U.N. sanctions on free Iraq?Apparently this is the 64 billion dollar question!
Follow the money and discredit everybody.
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posted on
04/21/2003 6:39:47 PM PDT
by
Howlin
To: GailA
More for you list.
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posted on
04/21/2003 6:40:30 PM PDT
by
Howlin
To: Billthedrill
Have you heard on Fox today all the stuff that Saddam and his little boys asked for with this Oil for Palaces money?
I'm still trying to find a link on Fox (but I'm not very good at finding stuff on that site!)
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posted on
04/21/2003 6:42:27 PM PDT
by
Howlin
To: Cultural Jihad
Colin Powell apparently believes that Chirac's new fondness for sanctions could tie up Iraqi oil production with litigation for years.I can't believe he really said that.
Yes I can. Colin Powell would make such a stupid statement. He should try to get more face time with his boss, that fellow from Texas. Methinks that the advice that he will get from Condi (perhaps) and Rummy/Wolfy (for sure) will be to go for a vote in the UN and if we get a French or Russian veto then do what worked last time: Ignore it and start buying Iraqi oil and depositing the money in a bank account credited to Iraq. Just bypass the whole corrupt system. If Bush fails to do this he is fool in the same class as Colin Powell.
To: backhoe
Okay.....okay.......I lost the bookmark.
Will you post it here?
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posted on
04/21/2003 6:46:42 PM PDT
by
Howlin
To: Howlin
I saw one item in another thread - a sports palace. But lest people think they were squandering Iraq's food and medicine money on a single-use facility, rest assured that thrifty Uday liked to make this sort of place do double duty as a torture chamber. What a great guy!
To: Bob J
Quod erat demonstratum.
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posted on
04/21/2003 6:50:18 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(There are people in power who are truly evil.)
To: Cultural Jihad; MadIvan; Dog Gone; Torie
The clever thing to do would be for the US to get Britain, as a Party to the International Criminal Court, to bring separate actions against Chirac, Schroeder, and Putin for crimes against humanity via their malfeasance, criminal arms sales, and racketeering in the Oil for Food programme.
Tony Blair could thus get the Euro-monkey off his back vis-a-vis his own left, the Iraqis might get some of their money back, the leftist Eurotrash media would have to shut up about our greed for oil, and Iraq could go about ignoring the UN while selling the oil on the open market to anyone who is interested in buying it. Any such purchaser would of course be ignoring the UN right along with us.
Now that would be poetic justice!
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posted on
04/21/2003 7:56:51 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(There are people in power who are truly evil.)
To: Cultural Jihad
Great article. All we need is more time for W, Rummy and friends to call the bluffs of so many world hypocrites. More time equals a higher chance to uncover the bad stuff, there's a lot of it. Hopefully, the UN will implode with some of the news that surfaces.......
To: Cultural Jihad
UN sanctions are as worthless as frost bitten French grapes. The only time they are paid attention to is when they can be used to take advantage of the America. My patience with our mole infested State Department is running out. Trying to salvage its new world order dream, no matter how much it hurts our national interest and security, is folly.
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posted on
04/21/2003 9:34:11 PM PDT
by
Russell Scott
(The UN is a hellish beast, which gives evil, vile despots a veneer of legitimacy.)
To: BOBTHENAILER
They will need big boxes to hold all of the money given to the DNC, Clinton/Daschle/Pelosi", "Sierra Club", "Natural Resources Defense Council" and the National Council of Churches.
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posted on
04/21/2003 10:10:24 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
To: Cultural Jihad
Several things occur to me as I learn more about these fascinating developments.
- This is just the tip of the iceberg.
- This story is potentially more interesting than the war itself.
- There's one hell of a book waiting to be written when this story is complete.
- And a good movie or two.
- This looks good for us at the moment, but we should keep in mind that our country and people we used to admire may suffer from some of these revelations. So be it; let the chips fall where they may.
- One wonders what is being discussed in the White House, the Kremlin, No. 10 and the Elysée Palace tonight.
- The pages of history, the wealth of nations, and the lives of millions of people are permanently altered by moments like this. The world may be rocked by a Daily Telegraph reporter, hunched over sheaves of papers in a dingy hotel room in Baghdad with only an Arabic translator for company.
- Speaking of which, if I were that reporter, knowing that I'm sitting on top of not just one blockbuster story, but potentially dozens-- I'd be looking over my shoulder at every squeak of the floorboards, wondering how many of the world's most wealthy and powerful men would like to cut my throat and walk off with my satchels of papers.
- If the reporter has any sense, he has scanned these papers into his laptop and sent copies rocketing all over cyberspace-- keeping hostages to history, as it were.
- Nonetheless, in the end, I wonder how much of the real story will make it into the public eye.
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posted on
04/22/2003 9:57:13 PM PDT
by
ccmay
To: BOBTHENAILER
I don't think I'll ever get tired of saying I TOLD YOU SO.To think that the left is going to be completely exposed as corrupt and greedy beneath the feigned expressions of moral piety--I LOVE IT TOO!!!!
bttt
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posted on
09/16/2003 10:35:55 PM PDT
by
Mr. Mojo
To: RockBassCreek
Exactly. As Bush said in his SOTU speech, "We don't need a permission slip".
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posted on
02/29/2004 1:11:04 PM PST
by
BigSkyFreeper
(Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
To: RockBassCreek
In fact, we don't need UN approval for anything. I suggest the following ammendment:
In fact, we don't need the UN approval for anything.
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posted on
02/29/2004 1:16:54 PM PST
by
Aeronaut
(Peace: in international affairs, a period of cheating between two periods of fighting.)
To: Cultural Jihad
Bill by himself is enough reason for the Times to exist. What a mensch...
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posted on
02/29/2004 1:25:33 PM PST
by
185JHP
( "And the pure in heart shall see god.")
To: ccmay
o This is just the tip of the iceberg.
o This story is potentially more interesting than the war itself. Would you care to pat yourself on the back for your prescience?
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posted on
02/29/2004 1:27:03 PM PST
by
okie01
(www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
To: Cultural Jihad
I would love to comment, but anger prevents it. The whole foreign aid and "loans" business is just a fancy name for enslavement of the American taxpayer via diplomacy.
This is all chump change when compared to the
continuing foreign aid we chumps pay to nations perfectly able to care for and defend themselves.
France on day announced: NATO --- OUT OF FRANCE NOW! and there was hardly a ripple.
The U.S. is long overdue to do the same with the U.N., with a simultaneous withdrawal from that band of pirates. Let's see how well and smoothly it runs when it no longer has the financial support of the U.S., and the only money it has access to steal is each others'!
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posted on
03/20/2004 9:02:28 AM PST
by
Publius6961
(50.3% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks (subject to a final count).)
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