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Why Hillary Clinton will run for president (from 2002 - back to the future alert)
CS Monitor ^ | June 11, 2002 | Godfrey Sperling

Posted on 04/22/2003 11:32:44 AM PDT by fightinJAG

Why Hillary Clinton will run for president

By Godfrey Sperling

WASHINGTON – There's a sound of desperation coming out of the Democratic camp these days. That's what we must call it when some prominent Democrats are saying, in effect, that the current crop of Democratic presidential possibilities can't beat George W. Bush in 2004 and they would like to have Republican John McCain as their candidate. It's a rather silly wish. Senator McCain is prolife, supports school vouchers, favors national missile defense, and backs a private-investment option for Social Security, and much more that shows he may be an attractive independent thinker – but no Democrat.

Still, in the year leading up to the 1992 presidential race there also was that note of Democratic desperation in the air. Nobody thought he or she could beat President Bush, particularly after his popularity ratings shot up after the Gulf War. The leading Democratic possibility, Mario Cuomo, said he wasn't interested in running. So did several others, like Richard Gephardt and Tom Foley.

But Arkansas Gov. Bill Clinton hung in there. The word I got from Mr. Clinton's longtime friend and adviser, former Democratic national chairman John White, was that Clinton had decided to make the run because even if he lost, he would put himself in a position to be the candidate four years later.

Well, as we all know, it worked out better than Clinton expected.

So my guess is that another Clinton – the senator from New York, who was so much a part of that 1992 campaign – is remembering all this. I won't be surprised at all if she jumps into a race that will be looked upon in advance as a "no win" for any Democratic contender.

Yes, Mrs. Clinton has said she won't run for president in '04. But Bill told voters he would stay in his governorship for the full term – and didn't. So I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary follows a similar course.

How strong a candidate would Senator Clinton be? I checked with pollster John Zogby and he fortified with facts my guess that she could become a strong candidate. He said that in his polling of possible Democrats, including former Vice President Gore, Sen. John Edwards, Sen. Evan Bayh, Rep. Dick Gephardt, and Sen. John Kerry, among others, Clinton "always finishes a strong second to Gore."

"But aren't there so many Clinton 'haters' out there who would almost make her victory an impossibility?" I asked Mr. Zogby. He said that what he called Mrs. Clinton's "strong negatives" were up to 46 percent during her race for senator – a race that she won. Now, he said, because of her performance in office, her negatives are "down in the mid-30s."

Zogby said it was among the "mushy middle" of negative voters that Mrs. Clinton has picked up supporters by doing what they see as a good job. He said the rest of the negatives come from hard-core haters of the Clintons, who are "under no circumstances" ever going to vote for her.

From this Zogby wisdom I can conclude that Senator Clinton might make a good candidate: Indeed, nationally, some of that "mushy middle" might be persuaded to come over to her side if she puts on an effective campaign.

But most important: Bill Clinton, despite his travails, remains popular among the voters at large. Isn't it arguable that his popularity, or much of it, might well be transferred to his wife?

I'll tell you why I really think she will run. Back in late summer 1991, Bill Clinton, who had indicated he would get into the race, decided that disclosures about his marital infidelity, which he knew were coming, would kill his chances. He told friends he would drop out. But it was Hillary who wouldn't give up on that race. It was she who thought up the idea of the two of them coming to the Monitor breakfast in September to see if they couldn't put the scandals behind them by telling the reporters that they had worked out these problems between them.

Encouraged by the press response to this approach to their problem, Bill Clinton soon threw his hat into the ring. His personal problems didn't end. But he had pushed ahead into the race – at Hillary's urgings.

So it is that even if the sky may be dark for her prospects, I think Hillary will run. She'll remember how Bill prevailed in the primary and the election after that early period when his prospects didn't look at all good.

She will also figure that even if she loses, she can put herself in a good position for being the nominee in 2008, when the prospect for winning may be much better.


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KEYWORDS: 2004; elections; hillary
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But it was Hillary who wouldn't give up on that race.

This fact does deserve to be remembered in any debate about Hillary's aspirations to the presidency.

1 posted on 04/22/2003 11:32:45 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: fightinJAG
Hitlery's run is 2008. She's going to be spending the time catering to her special interest groups for their support then she'll apply the same techniques to the rest of the country.
2 posted on 04/22/2003 11:37:09 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: fightinJAG
"because of her performance in office, her negatives are down in the 30s"!!! PERFORMANCE is definitely the operative word here, but she's done NOTHING for NY and hopefully 9/11 will have swung them a little more conservative!
3 posted on 04/22/2003 11:38:06 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: princess leah
Talk about terrible "performances"---just watch Hildebeast making remarks on the Senate floor. Gads, the delivery is like a very bad actor in a very bad high school play.
4 posted on 04/22/2003 11:42:04 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Do not play chess with George W. Bush.)
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To: fightinJAG
I will never forget the story of Hillary campaigning for Bubba in Greenville SC. She said, "A vote for my husband is a vote for me!"
5 posted on 04/22/2003 11:42:30 AM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: fightinJAG
Hillary is so unbelievable because she's pretending to give a damn about something besides herself.
6 posted on 04/22/2003 11:48:29 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: lilylangtree
Hitlery's run is 2008.

If the economy doesn't improve, she'll run in `04.

Being the Queen, and chief fundraiser of the Dem party, she has the advantage of being able to enter the race at the latest posssible moment and crushing the other Dem candidates like so many bugs.
7 posted on 04/22/2003 11:50:27 AM PDT by mr.pink
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To: mr.pink
a very good point!

8 posted on 04/22/2003 11:57:04 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: mr.pink
Being the Queen, and chief fundraiser of the Dem party, she has the advantage of being able to enter the race at the latest posssible moment and crushing the other Dem candidates like so many bugs.

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NEVER ALLOW THE BIG CREEP INTO THE WHITE HOUSE AGAIN.......EVEN IF THE BEAST DIVORCES HIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!

9 posted on 04/22/2003 12:00:20 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: fightinJAG
Dude you forgot the barf alert; the pass the Phillips Milk of Magnesia alert; pass Bill a straw alert...
11 posted on 04/22/2003 12:21:03 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
"THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NEVER ALLOW THE BIG CREEP INTO THE WHITE HOUSE AGAIN.......EVEN IF THE BEAST DIVORCES HIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Actually, the biggest creep WAS/IS hitlery... She is the brains, such as they are. He was just a pair of antsy pants with the look the soccer moms could love, and a so-called glib tongue that they could allow to tickle their ignorant ears. She was the real prez, but now wants the title. Since when does it matter to demoncraps what the "American People" want? They've perfected the game of vote fraud, don't forget. It scares me that some people are so certain she'll never steal the presidency again, just like they said she'd never be elected senator...
12 posted on 04/22/2003 12:24:18 PM PDT by tinacart
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To: mr.pink
Fundraising, schmundraising...Hillary's $8 million book deal with Viacom/CBS/Paramount Pictures/MTV/Showtime--oh, and Simon & Schuster had no written proposal for content. It was simply an early presidential campaign trust fund. She's been way ahead of the 'Rat pack for two years.
13 posted on 04/22/2003 12:24:53 PM PDT by NautiNurse
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Hillary's $8 million book deal with Viacom/CBS/Paramount Pictures/MTV/Showtime--oh, and Simon & Schuster had no written proposal for content. It was simply an early presidential campaign trust fund.

Why would the Queen spend any of her own money to run for Pres?....Moneywise, she's no Corzine and the book money (peanuts in terms of a Pres run) will never be used to support a campaign because it won't be needed.

IMHO, the book is being stalled so it can be timed for her best use in a presidential run.

I'll stand by my prediction...no economic improvement and she's running in `04.
14 posted on 04/22/2003 12:32:51 PM PDT by mr.pink
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Sorry for the lack of barf alert -- at this point, I think anything with Hillary in the title should be a big enough warning.

dude

Can a gurl be a "dude"? I guess so (especially if the gurl is being addressed by Randy "Dawg" Jackson).

15 posted on 04/22/2003 12:33:41 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Do not play chess with George W. Bush.)
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To: tinacart
Since when does it matter to demoncraps what the "American People" want? They've perfected the game of vote fraud, don't forget. It scares me that some people are so certain she'll never steal the presidency again, just like they said she'd never be elected senator...

You don't know the American male.

They are nearly 50% of the population and the witch "might" get 25% of their vote on a good day!

16 posted on 04/22/2003 12:49:49 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: fightinJAG
Ooops sorry for my confusion...
17 posted on 04/22/2003 12:53:00 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: fightinJAG
We can speculate about her running for President, but there is one thing I can guarantee:

Hillary will never be Vice President

Can anyone tell me why?

18 posted on 04/22/2003 1:10:17 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("Democracy, whiskey! And sexy!")
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To: Beelzebubba
Obviously, this is a trick question.
19 posted on 04/22/2003 1:51:58 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Do not play chess with George W. Bush.)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
"You don't know the American male."

Well then, that means they were also responsible for the creep's TWO, not one but TWO, election wins... That doesn't give me much confidence in their voting skills either :)
20 posted on 04/22/2003 1:53:20 PM PDT by tinacart
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