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Support Bill H.R. 990! This Act Would Make Your Concealed Carry Weapon Permit Valid In All 50 States
http://www.theorator.com/bills108/hr990.html ^

Posted on 04/23/2003 5:05:23 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender

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To: Puppage
Could be!
21 posted on 04/23/2003 5:17:11 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Liberate Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, NK, Cuba...; Support the Troops!)
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To: Puppage
No kidding! You're pulling my leg....
22 posted on 04/23/2003 5:17:37 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty" not the "Statue of Security.")
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Not so sure I like this. I think this should be a state by state issue unless there is set federal testing/training standard that everybody must go through in order to get their permit.
23 posted on 04/23/2003 5:18:54 PM PDT by GOPyouth (De Oppresso Liber! Heather Nauert is all that is woman!)
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To: TalBlack
Ain't THAT the truth!!

As a Connecticut CCW holder I often wonder why I'm deemed a responsible person, but as soon as I cross the border into NY I'm immediately unworthy?

24 posted on 04/23/2003 5:19:11 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: FreedomCalls
Honest to God. That's what it says.
25 posted on 04/23/2003 5:20:06 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Skywalk
I agree. I like the idea of this, but isn't this another example of the feds interfering with the internal affairs of the states?

If the full faith and credit clause applied, that could be determined now through a series of lawsuits, not federal legislation.
26 posted on 04/23/2003 5:20:47 PM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: George from New England
Does it stand a chance?

Worth pursuing but probably not with this Senate. President Bush did sign the CCW law for the great State of Texas while governor.

27 posted on 04/23/2003 5:22:07 PM PDT by Brian S (You're it!)
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To: SSN558
Don't tell me they're going to finally invoke the Bill of Rights which extends to EVERY citizen. The States can establish "buying" regs, i.e., record checks, waiting periods, age etc..
28 posted on 04/23/2003 5:22:10 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: GOPyouth
Not so sure I like this. I think this should be a state by state issue unless there is set federal testing/training standard that everybody must go through in order to get their permit.

You want to Federalize Concealed Carry Permits? That would be a nightmare.

What this bill does is simply give unity to Concealed Carry laws in the United States. Why can I carry a handgun legally in Utah and then cross the border to Nevada, California, New York or ten other states and suddenly be in violation of laws? The handgun carry laws need to be unified, but not controlled by the Federal Government.

29 posted on 04/23/2003 5:23:42 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: GOPyouth
"Not so sure I like this. I think this should be a state by state issue unless there is set federal testing/training standard that everybody must go through in order to get their permit."

Just curious, if you're a male, when you travel do you pee the same from state to state? Stand in one sit in another?

30 posted on 04/23/2003 5:25:13 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
any individual who has a valid license or permit to carry a handgun in any state

I had a concealed carry permit when I lived in Indiana - According to the sherrif of the county I used to live in, it is still valid when I am in Indiana, even though I am now an Illinois resident

If I am reading this correctly, I would then be able to carry in Illinois legally, even though you cannot get a permit in Illinois

Am I right?

31 posted on 04/23/2003 5:25:21 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Praise the Lord!
32 posted on 04/23/2003 5:26:20 PM PDT by chicagolady
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
They need more than 22 votes to get it passed. At least they can count on Ron Paul.
33 posted on 04/23/2003 5:26:36 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
The fly in the ointment is the great state of Vermont which doesn't require a permit. In effect all Vermonters are already permitted. I suppose you could require a permit from one of the other 49 to be legal in all 50 but that would leave Vermonters at a disadvantage (besides the big one of having Jeffords/Sanders/Leahy as congressional representatives).

If this passes (which is highly unlikely despite being emminently fair and just)Vermont will have to address the issue themselves I suppose.

34 posted on 04/23/2003 5:29:55 PM PDT by muir_redwoods
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To: Ford Fairlane
If I am reading this correctly, I would then be able to carry in Illinois legally, even though you cannot get a permit in Illinois

I think so. It goes by either the state law OR ANY permit ANYWHERE. You have a permit, you can carry. I don't know how long an Indiana permit lasts, though, so you might have to move back to get it renewed, even under this new law...

35 posted on 04/23/2003 5:30:29 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: FreedomCalls
If you are a citizen of Vermont, and this bill passes, you can carry in any state without a permit.


36 posted on 04/23/2003 5:30:34 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: muir_redwoods
If you read the bill (see my post #8), ALL Vermonters not barred from carrying concealed there would be treated as if they had permits, the law is specifically written that way.
37 posted on 04/23/2003 5:31:44 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: FreedomCalls
So would this law mean that anyone, anywhere could carry concealed by virtue of Vermont's laws (or lack of laws)?

No, you would have to be a resident of Vermont to get this benefit.

38 posted on 04/23/2003 5:32:33 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
I don't think the feds should get involved in it at this point. I think it should be a state by state issue. If all it takes to get a permit in state X is to sit in a one hour class and hit the target one time, then I don't think you should be able to carry your gun in a state Y that carries laws that require more training and education.

Now, if I have misread this proposed law, then I apologize. But as for the fed statement, if they are going to get involved and start forcing states to accept permits from other states, I think that they should enforce at least some minimum standard that all states must require in order to get the permit.

39 posted on 04/23/2003 5:33:07 PM PDT by GOPyouth (De Oppresso Liber! Heather Nauert is all that is woman!)
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To: bigfootbob
Just curious, if you're a male, when you travel do you pee the same from state to state? Stand in one sit in another?

I know my piss can stink sometimes, but my piss isn't going to kill somebody.

40 posted on 04/23/2003 5:34:28 PM PDT by GOPyouth (De Oppresso Liber! Heather Nauert is all that is woman!)
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