Study: Cable speeds outpace DSL

CED Magazine ^ | 4/23/03 | Jeff Baumgartner

[PFKEY]

I had DSL with Eartlink and it was $49/mo. for 1.5k down but never got better than say 790k. Then my service was cancelled because of Alltel buying out Verizion in my area.

I looked into other DSL offereing in my area because I was not impressed with the cable offering or so I thought. The best prices I could find for a DSL replacement service ran around the the same as Earthlink but half the download speed. Or around $70 if I wanted the 1.5k potential that I had previously had.

So, I switched to cable. As it turned out being a digital cable subscriber my price was reduced from $44 to $34. Speeds as mentioned above are considerably faster. Only downside is their NNTP offering and servers stink.

[Michael121]

If you have cable and want more of their speed download

TCPOptimizer.exe it is a cable modem tweak. I download 50 megs in 1 min. hehehehe

I can get speeds, from a 700kb /sec supposed connection cable, of 2500kb /sec - 3000kb /sec.

Tweak, tweak, tweak. Cable companies lock out the bandwidth like a governor on your car, all ya gotta do is find the hold down nut on the cable and ya get more gas. Cable is so much faster. Now as to the next since they have been laying lines for years...... FIBER OPTICS... gigibytes in seconds but who will be the first company to finally hook it up?

[Steel and Fire and Stone]

Sensitive subject ...oh yeah!

Does anyone remember how the Cable companies used to resemble something between gangsters and a third-world, socialist country, government agency? When you tried to call for service, you'd wait for hours, and then get hung up on. If you arrived in person to turn in cable hardware (as when you got so pissed off you said "to heck with the SOB's; give me my rabbit ears.."), you could wait in line 2-3 hours!??

Well, folks, the only thing that's changed is the technology. We all have a variety of competitive sources of TV programming (i.e. satallite, cable, etc.), so the Cable companies had to clean up their service act a bit. But MOST AMERICAN's still have only one choice for broadband service, and that's by the design of both the providers and certain political entities in government. The only reason broadband technology is bottlenecked, and telecom hardware companies like CISCO are going under, is that the supply has been "regulated" to guarantee obscene, monopolistic profits to the broadband ISP's, along with the least service possible to the customer.

In practical terms, that means that Cox Cable will squeeze as many "clients" or workstation connections onto a single router-trunk as possible, by limiting uplink (which is the choke point for most of us) to < 256 kbps, and download to < 650 kbps. By the way, those numbers drop all the time. Why buy more hardware to deliver more service, when you KNOW your customer's other choice is 56K, or DSL at twice the cost, plus a small fortune for hookup. When I first contracted for cable internet service, I had 1500 kbps up and down, consistently, and with "clean" transmission. Now there are all sorts of choke points in the system. On occasion, I've been able to track down problems and resolve them, but by the time I've talked to Tier I, Tier II, and eventually Tier III support, convinced them that I'm a IT professional, and know what the heck I'm talking about, I've wasted 4-5 hours. Then, two weeks later, they make some more tuning adjustments to squeeze a few more connections out of too few servers and comm. lines, fail to monitor their changes, and my service degrades again.

When I call to complain to customer service, they essentially say that I'm a "user with special commercial needs..", that they will be glad to hook me up to their commercial folks who'll change me $2500 per month for CONSISTENT service.

This situation will continue until the politicians making Telecommunications policy decide that the bribe money these Broadband companies are paying them just isn't worth the political risk of ticking off TWO OUT OF EVERY THREE constituents.

The reason this issue hasn't boiled over is because people naturally assume the problem is with their PC, or their modem, or their Internet Router, or some other mistake THEY'RE making, and just decide they have to live with the problem.

If the government took the "governor" off the business, there'd be 10,000 new providers, cable and DSL prices would drop to $3.50 a month (oh..$15.50 after TAXES!!), and performance would improve 100x.

Next time you talk to your local, smiling politician, given him an ear full!

FReegards, SFS

[Citizen of the Savage Nation]

I've had both. Cable is much faster, and more reliable, but that's just me. Plus, I got cable installed under a week when DSL took a month.

Not to mention, you pretty much have to live within 3 miles or so of the CO junction to get it. Folks out in the sticks won't have that luxury.

[PFKEY]

At over 2000k/sec I'm not sure if tweaking will help much but I am a strong advocate of same. Did wonders on my dial-up and a slight improvement on my DSL.

Gigabytes/sec...can't wait. Just wonder what the point of diminishing returns will be when you start running into bus/processor speeds and the like.

[lshoultz]

This study seems to ignore the fact that not all cable and DSL networks are equal. My ISP only offers DSL service over a Wide Area Network that necessitates installing a networking card into your computer. The upside is that it is three or four times faster than the cable modems offered by my cable company.

[RandallFlagg]

I do 1MB in three seconds on my satellite. I love it.

[SubMareener]

How does it do when it is raining?

[RandallFlagg]

No difference. Even in heavy snow. I had to scrape the snow off the dish last month when we got 4' in 3 days, though.

[FreedomPoster]

I just scanned all the posts, and didn't see anyone comment on what I see as the truth of the issue:

1) In places where you can get cable Internet access, and no DSL, cable is much faster than DSL (duh!). Service from the cable company is not unlikely to be poor.

2) Conversely,in places where you can get DSL, and not cable, DSL is much faster than cable (duh! again). Service from the DSL company (likely the ILEC/RBOC) is not unlikely to be poor.

3) In places where you can get both, sometimes the cable is better/faster, and sometimes the DSL is better/faster. It all depends on service provider and locale. Cable has the potential to be substantially faster than DSL, but often isn't due to poor network design. Reliability is more important than speed to many users, and often (not always) the RBOC DSL providers are more reliable, perhaps because of the telco heritage.

"This" is better than "that" because of "x" arguments, in this space, are pointless. It all depends on the local providers and their implementations of the techologies.

http://www.broadbandreports.com/ is a good resource.

[marbren]

I got DSL two weeks ago from Verizon and its great. Broadband wizard test says I have 200KPS and Verizon test says I have 600KPS. Any idea why the difference? Also, is Zone Alarm (free version) all I need for a firewall.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Reliability is more important than speed to many users, and often (not always) the RBOC DSL providers are more reliable, perhaps because of the telco heritage.

My SBC (Ameritech) DSL hasn't gone down in months... and there is still no cable ISP available to me.

[RippleFire]

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[paolop]

My tested speed 4548/996 (Broadband.com), ISP is Optimum Online

[US admirer]

Read it and weep!


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Your raw speed was 2953611.44 bits per second which is the same as:

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2.8 seconds

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[dennisw]

Broadband competition "has created intense pricing pressure, so performance metrics such as connection speed are likely to become an increasingly important factor.............

 

A stinking lie. There is no competition in broadband. Only collusion. I have it and it's gonna get dumped as soon as I have some mega download sessions. Priced too high.

[savedbygrace]

You post is 100% spot on. Most of the blanket arguments of DSL vs. Cable are useless and meaningless.

For instance, in my area, I can get both Cable (Cable One) and DSL (SBC/Yahoo). The Cable theoretically maxes out at 800kbps, but typically runs at about 600 - 700kbps.

I'm about a mile from the telco CO, and my DSL typically runs at 1.2 to 1.5Mbps. That's why I have DSL.

As you said, each situation is different and you need to know what the real speeds are in your location as well as the reliability factor of each to make an informed decision.

[savedbygrace]

I got DSL two weeks ago from Verizon and its great. Broadband wizard test says I have 200KPS and Verizon test says I have 600KPS. Any idea why the difference? Also, is Zone Alarm (free version) all I need for a firewall.

200K-what-ps? In other words, you left out an important letter between the k and the p. Is it 200 kilobits per seconds or 200 kilobytes per second?

Either way, that's pretty slow. You could do with a little tweaking. How far from the telco CO are you? That's important to know.

As for Zone Alarm Pro, I sugggest the paid version. You get more flexibility and when there is a problem, you have access to more troublshooting information from Zone Labs. Bit the bullet and open your wallet; it's worth the extra bux.

[rdb3]

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Your raw speed was 1181163.01 bits per second which is the same as:

Communications	1.2 megabits per second How communication devices are rated. Kilo means 1,000 and mega means 1,000,000. Examples include 56k modem and 10Mbit Ethernet
Storage	144.2 kilobytes per second The way data is measured on your hard drive and how file sharing and FTP programs measure transfer speeds. Kilo is 1,024 and mega is 1,048,576.
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I have ADSL (SWBell).

And today was a good day...

[tje]

I have both, a cable modem at my Houston residence and DSL at my Oregon house. The cable modem is faster. Not that it matters for surfing.

I've had DSL for years. I got it from USWest and the account was managed out of their business services dept. and the service was great. But once they went commercial (and lowered the price), service quaility dropped. They have since sold their residential DSL services to MSN. I would not recommend MSN to anyone.

At both residences I run networks with multiple computers, a no-no according to the DSL contract, but supported by the cable service (RoadRunner).