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To: ArcLight
Well, that means you can kiss the recording industry--and rock music--goodbye permanently.
5 posted on 04/25/2003 12:01:50 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: The Old Hoosier
No, it means you can kiss the recordng industry's and rock music's outdated business model good-bye.

Music will always be here.

10 posted on 04/25/2003 12:04:10 PM PDT by Principled
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To: The Old Hoosier
Rock is dead....

Long live rock!

14 posted on 04/25/2003 12:06:40 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: The Old Hoosier
This Chicken-Little scenario was also floated when video-cassettes became popular 20+ years ago.
15 posted on 04/25/2003 12:06:41 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: The Old Hoosier
Don't worry, they'll just appeal it again and again and again until they get the ruling they want.

As far as rock music going away permanently, that just isn't going to happen. Music existed for centuries before record labels came along, and it will exist for centuries to come, music industry or no music industry.

Look at the basic paradigm. It used to be that just to record a song took tens of thousands of dollars worth of equipment to record anything you would want to listen to. Then promotion, distribution, etc. all of which cost big bucks. Nowadays you can put together a very decent home studio for a couple of grand, and you can distribute and promote your music for free on the internet via MP3.com, IUMA and others.

I have an extensive collection of great songs that I've put together over the last few years, all off of the internet. I've paid nothing for any of those songs, and I've stolen nothing because every song I have was given away for free by the artists. Some of them I liked enough to actually purchase albums from them, so they accomplished their goal of making money, and I've accomplished my goal of finding new music.

Who needs a music industry when their idea of "great art" is bands like Linkin Park and Limp Biskit? Is anyone going to be listening to these bands in ten years? Who needs the opinion of some "program director" when I can audition and program artists myself?
17 posted on 04/25/2003 12:08:34 PM PDT by Billy_bob_bob ("He who will not reason is a bigot;He who cannot is a fool;He who dares not is a slave." W. Drummond)
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Too bad the recording industry wasted their efforts trying to hold back technology - if they had been the first ones on to the bandwagon, selling the files themselves, they would have seized market share and held it. Now the culture is used to getting songs for free, and it's way too late to put THAT genie back in the bottle.
19 posted on 04/25/2003 12:08:53 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: The Old Hoosier
Well, that means you can kiss the recording industry--and rock music--goodbye permanently.

I really think that the current situation is much inferior to what we might get should things open up. There are lots of bands that are very good, yet they get very little publicity or income because the big companies promote a handful of groups that are part of the "in" crowd.

What will happen is that music will have to earn its way by live concerts. They can't sing one tune in a recording studio, and make money off that work for decades. They'll have to work every day to make a living, just like the rest of us.

Besides, the original intent of copyright laws was to allow a right to publish for a limited amount of time. I think that's right in the Constitution. And yet these people have successfully lobbied the congress to set that "limited time" to virtually forever. It's an abuse of the copyright principle in the Constitution.

21 posted on 04/25/2003 12:09:07 PM PDT by narby (Fox News = America's News Network)
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Oh really. There have been massive changes in the home recording industry over the last 5 years. One still cannot get the quality of a real studio recording at home unless you're willing to buy $5,000 limiters for each channel but its getting closer and closer to the 'pretend' studio point where its getting harder for a layman to tell the difference. Kids already can't really tell the difference between an .mp3 and a .wav file anyway. The recording industry will still exist as do $50,000 grand pianos but the home studios (and sampled keyboards) continue to make big inroads. Kids no longer want to buy whole CDs. They want the ability to string together individual songs from a 100 bands. As you can see on mp3.com, there are thousands of artists now, many of whom record at home studios. There will be smaller pool of the big acts and huge numbers of half-arsed acts. The pyranmid is flattening. It's getting more dispersed and less concentrated. I don't feel sorry for the musicians, most are stupid liberals anyway.
27 posted on 04/25/2003 12:13:16 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: The Old Hoosier
Well, that means you can kiss the recording industry--and rock music--goodbye permanently.

Ba-bye.

28 posted on 04/25/2003 12:13:19 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: The Old Hoosier
Well, that means you can kiss the recording industry--and rock music--goodbye permanently.

Surely you joke.

33 posted on 04/25/2003 12:15:09 PM PDT by BJungNan
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The Old Hoosier wrote:
Well, that means you can kiss the recording industry--and rock music--goodbye permanently.

Rifleman Replies:
Then there is no down side at all!
38 posted on 04/25/2003 12:20:03 PM PDT by Rifleman
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To: The Old Hoosier
Wrong. It means you can kiss one means of distributing and creating music goodbye (megacompanies/limited outlets/limited storefront). Not all. Wake up.
56 posted on 04/25/2003 12:31:53 PM PDT by =Intervention= (so freaking sick of the lies...)
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To: The Old Hoosier
Well, that means you can kiss the recording industry--and rock music--goodbye permanently.

Like the song says: "I feel fine."

76 posted on 04/25/2003 12:42:19 PM PDT by eno_
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To: The Old Hoosier
Well, that means you can kiss the recording industry--and rock music--goodbye permanently.

Well the bloated, coke and ego driven horror of the big five controlled industry, maybe. So? Rock music? Well it will live on forever on certain FM radio stations, or at least until all the boomers who like Classic Rock die off. And the spirit of simple and loud music made by self trained amatures for their own amusement will continue long after MCA/Universal/Sony have died off. Can't scare me 'cause I don't care.

94 posted on 04/25/2003 12:54:23 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: The Old Hoosier
Oh come on. They will simply adapt if they have brains.
99 posted on 04/25/2003 12:58:58 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (God Reigns!)
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To: The Old Hoosier
Well ever since mp3.com I've very rarely listend to let alone bought any of the "mainstream" music. Most if it STINKS. It's overproduced garbage and that's why the industry is in trouble.

My favorite music site at the moment is REALLY COOL! It's amatuers but a heckuva lot of fun! AND NO ONE CAN STOP US!

Check out...

www.darertosing.com

But beware anything by willbill aka...

prisoner6

107 posted on 04/25/2003 1:03:53 PM PDT by prisoner6 ( Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out!)
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To: The Old Hoosier
Well, that means you can kiss the recording industry--and rock music--goodbye permanently.

If it's the end of crappy commercial music that gives these airheaded minstrels a platform for inane political commentary that sounds great.

Certainly people will still create music.

129 posted on 04/25/2003 1:25:16 PM PDT by The FRugitive
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Well, that means you can kiss the recording industry--and rock music--goodbye permanently.

Hardly, since every other court decision on file trading has gone to the dark side. The RIAA has enough money to have this one judge declared a lone crank, then push their case all the way to the United Nations, if that's what it takes.

138 posted on 04/25/2003 2:04:58 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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Well, that means you can kiss the recording industry--and rock music--goodbye permanently.

  1. No, just the the way they do business
  2. Even if 1. is wrong, no great loss. Music has stunk since 1971 anyway.

141 posted on 04/25/2003 2:18:26 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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Well, that means you can kiss the recording industry--and rock music--goodbye permanently.

We can only hope.

Unfortunately, this is not going to be the case.

142 posted on 04/25/2003 2:19:14 PM PDT by tallhappy
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Right of coures they can NOT exist anyway.

After all their demise was assured in 1966 when the Real to Real became common place. Again in 1972 with the cassette. Again in 1974 with the 8-track.

They survived that and more and will survive this as well. If they really wanted to sell more CD's they would lower prices. Insteae they raised they by 8% this year them complained sales were down. Well wonder why? Everyone elses were down as well. Even those that lowered prices.
143 posted on 04/25/2003 2:19:33 PM PDT by ImphClinton
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