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Bush always suspected Saddam was behind 9/11
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | April 27, 2003 | Con Coughlin

Posted on 04/26/2003 4:20:20 PM PDT by MadIvan

The revelation that Saddam Hussein's intelligence chiefs were seeking to establish links with Osama bin Laden's al-Qa'eda network is the first concrete proof that the dictator was colluding with the world's most ruthless terrorist operation.

The documents discovered yesterday by The Telegraph in the former headquarters of the Iraqi intelligence service, the Mukhabarat, will also reopen the debate about whether Saddam was directly involved in the September 11 terrorist attacks in New York and Washington.

The issue of Saddam's involvement has been a long-standing source of contention between London and Washington. In the days immediately following the attacks, President George W Bush confided to colleagues that he believed that Saddam was directly involved in the attacks. "He probably was behind this in the end," he said.

In his State of Union speech in January, Mr Bush made the case for confronting Iraq, saying: "Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of al-Qa'eda."

This belief has been the driving force behind Washington's determination to seek "regime change" in Baghdad, particularly after Colin Powell, the US Secretary of State, indicated in February that he had received intelligence reports that al-Qa'eda operatives had approached Iraq about co-operating on chemical and biological weapons.

Washington's insistence that Saddam had links with bin Laden was not reciprocated in London, where Tony Blair, acting on the advice he received from British intelligence, was more circumspect about the links.

During his appearance before a Commons select committee in January, Mr Blair said that while "there is some intelligence about loose links between al-Qa'eda and various people in Iraq", he was unaware of any evidence linking Saddam to September 11.

Until now, most of the evidence presented by Washington to prove the link between Saddam and al-Qa'eda has been inconclusive. In the weeks immediately after the September 11 attacks, the Bush administration was keen to draw attention to a report issued by the Czech Republic's interior ministry claiming that Mohamed Atta, the lead hijacker, had met an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague earlier that year. The report later turned out to be false.

Washington was similarly frustrated earlier this year when it claimed that an al-Qa'eda cell called al-Ansar al-Islam was operating in Iraq. It later transpired that the group was active in a region beyond Saddam's control.

The new documentation uncovered by The Telegraph, however, is the first concrete evidence to emerge to back up claims made by Mr Powell during his presentation to the United Nations Security Council. He said Iraqi intelligence had funded a number of terrorist training camps in Sudan in the 1990s which were used by al-Qa'eda.

During his presentation, Mr Powell said that al-Qa'eda had been working with Baghdad since the early 1990s after reaching an understanding that bin Laden would stop targeting Saddam's regime. "Ties were forged by secret, high-level intelligence contacts," he said.

"We know members of both organisations have met at least eight times at very senior levels since the early 1990s. In 1996 . . . bin Laden met with a senior Iraqi intelligence official in Khartoum, and later met with the director of the Iraqi intelligence service."

US officials also claimed that Saddam was particularly impressed by al-Qa'eda's 1998 terrorist attacks against the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and sent Iraqi intelligence officers to help train al-Qa'eda fighters in Afghanistan after bin Laden was forced to move his base there from Sudan.

The documents also give the lie to those who said that al-Qa'eda, the Islamic zealots, would have nothing to do with the brutally secular regime of Saddam. It appears that their shared hatreds - of America, of Saudi Arabia, of the West - outweighed such considerations.

"This discovery backs up everything we have heard about Baghdad's dealings with bin Laden," a Western intelligence official said last night. "It shows that Iraqi intelligence was desperate to form an alliance with al-Qa'eda. And if Saddam was working with bin Laden from the mid-1990s, that raises the question of whether he was involved in the 9/11 attacks."

Saddam himself always rigorously denied having any links with al-Qa'eda. During an interview with Tony Benn, the Left-wing former MP, in early January, Saddam said: "We have no relationship with al-Qa'eda." He added: "If we had a relationship with al-Qaeda and we believed in that relationship, we would not be ashamed to admit it."


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The left are utter morons.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 04/26/2003 4:20:20 PM PDT by MadIvan
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2 posted on 04/26/2003 4:20:34 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Badabing Badaboom; Mitchell; bonfire; Fred Mertz; aristeides; birdwoman; oceanview
How can you offer exile to the author of 9/11? By pretending you don't really know that he's the author of 9/11, that's how.
3 posted on 04/26/2003 4:23:25 PM PDT by The Great Satan (Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
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To: MadIvan
The left are utter morons.

So simple! So elegant! and so VERY, very true!

4 posted on 04/26/2003 4:23:47 PM PDT by Bigun (IRSsucks@getridof it.com)
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To: MadIvan
I had heard a woman on Fox once, sorry I don't remember her name, but she stated that the terrorists who planned and flew the planes were in fact all Iraqi's.

She said that she had proof that while Iraq occupied Kuwait, they brought people in killed them, then assumed their identities.

Interesting hypothosis I think.
5 posted on 04/26/2003 4:25:56 PM PDT by tuckrdout
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To: MadIvan
What we've always suspected was true is now being proven.
6 posted on 04/26/2003 4:29:36 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: tuckrdout
i wouldn't let the Saudis off the hook just yet.
7 posted on 04/26/2003 4:33:29 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: tuckrdout
She said that she had proof that while Iraq occupied Kuwait, they brought people in killed them, then assumed their identities.

( Slapping my head in frustration! )
I recall several stories from that time about killings & identity thefts, but did not save links to the stories.

8 posted on 04/26/2003 4:38:51 PM PDT by backhoe (The 1990's will be forever remembered as "The Decade of Fraud(s)...")
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To: Joe Boucher
Pretty much all of our enemies cooperate with each other against us. Sure they would cut each others' throats if we were out of the picture, but that's not our problem.
9 posted on 04/26/2003 4:42:09 PM PDT by Salman
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To: tuckrdout
Sounds like Laurie Mylroie.
10 posted on 04/26/2003 4:43:20 PM PDT by The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
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To: MadIvan
Yes, they are. Here in the U.S., they are just salivating at the prospect of branding President Bush a "liar" if no WMD are found in Iraq. I suppose the same is true in your country. To the enemies of Bush and Blair, there could be no explanation other than that they "deliberately lied" about the WMD. Sigh...
11 posted on 04/26/2003 4:44:52 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Bush-Cheney: four more years!)
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To: MadIvan
Without any WMD turning up, looks like the administration is going to Plan B.

Richard W.

12 posted on 04/26/2003 4:49:39 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: arete
The WMD will be found. I'd like to see how quickly you could organise a search of every basement in California (just as an equivalent).

Second, you and every other anti-war person should be utterly ashamed. Have you NO shame whatsoever?

Ivan

13 posted on 04/26/2003 4:53:52 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
The documents also give the lie to those who said that al-Qa'eda, the Islamic zealots, would have nothing to do with the brutally secular regime of Saddam. It appears that their shared hatreds - of America, of Saudi Arabia, of the West - outweighed such considerations.

This is an absolutely key and central point that should be shouted out from all the rooftops near Mclean and Foggy Bottom. Michael Ledeen in his dead-on book "The War Against The Terror Masters",

(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/031230644X/002-1044331-3767234?vi=glance)

goes into great detail about the fatal mistakes our intelligence organizations have consistently made in assuming that Sunni's won't work with Shiites won't work with Secularists...BullSquat. Their overriding hatred is centered on the West - and the US and UK being those leaders - are their key targets.

He provides countless examples of how they work together, exchange information, and train and supply each other's terrorists organizations. Later, in their somewhat interrupted gameplan, they think they'll get around to raping, maiming and slaughtering each other, but right now - all their focus is on and against us.

14 posted on 04/26/2003 5:05:09 PM PDT by guitfiddlist
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To: MadIvan
The WMD will be found. I'd like to see how quickly you could organise a search of every basement in California (just as an equivalent). Second, you and every other anti-war person should be utterly ashamed. Have you NO shame whatsoever?

Don't you think that it is even a little odd that with all the dead bang pronouncments about WMD before our invasion, that now we can't find any at all? The Iraqis weren't much good at anything but suddenly we're expected to think they are master magicians who make huge complex weapons programs disappear. What do I have to be ashamed of -- pointing out the obvious?

Richard W.

15 posted on 04/26/2003 5:16:33 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: arete
Don't you think that it is even a little odd that with all the dead bang pronouncments about WMD before our invasion, that now we can't find any at all?

No. If you were an Iraqi official, the last thing you'd want to do is be caught dead with WMD. Sorry if that logic escapes you.

The Iraqis weren't much good at anything but suddenly we're expected to think they are master magicians who make huge complex weapons programs disappear. What do I have to be ashamed of -- pointing out the obvious?

Saddam, as most anyone sane admits, had become a master of concealment. No I'm not surprised that the weapons are difficult to find. Nor am I surprised that anti-war people are already complaining about the length of time to find the weapons, because no timescale was ever going to be good enough. I suspect when they are found, you will next complain that it wasn't "enough" WMD to justify an invasion, and even if they are found in massive quantities, I am sure you will complain that these WMD weren't lethal enough in total to justify the invasion. Your position, to be sure, is not the product of any legitimate concerns or questions - it is an attempt to find some crack in the logic of taking out Iraq.

Every anti-war person should be utterly ashamed given what we've discovered just so far about this regime. The fact that you're not, and your premature crowing about WMD, indicates you are indeed anti-war no matter what, a position which has grown more pathetic and despciable over time.

Ivan

16 posted on 04/26/2003 5:21:55 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: arete
Oh, and I am sure the administration's detractors will say that these are plants or forgeries. Just like they would have said if any WMD had been found so far (I still think they will be found).
17 posted on 04/26/2003 5:25:14 PM PDT by William McKinley (You're so vain, you probably think this tagline's about you)
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To: William McKinley
Oh that's right, one more excuse in the list I forgot to add - they are going to say that it's all "planted".

They will never be satisfied that the invasion was justified. Ever. It doesn't matter how many WMD's we find, what evidence of links to Al Qaeda, how many people were gassed or tortured or killed - all that matters to the anti-war people is the sanctity of their position, and ignoring anything that might shatter that perception.

Regards, Ivan

18 posted on 04/26/2003 5:27:08 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: arete; MadIvan; Wolfstar
Check this:

Suspicious Iraqi Drums - UPDATE

19 posted on 04/26/2003 5:28:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and where is Tom Daschle?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It doesn't matter. Arete has already decided that the war was unjustified, and nothing is going to move him from that position.

Regards, Ivan

20 posted on 04/26/2003 5:28:53 PM PDT by MadIvan
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21 posted on 04/26/2003 5:30:08 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and where is Tom Daschle?)
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To: MadIvan
Ivan,

I can get the most important news...
news not being reported here in the states...
just by reading your posts.

Fantastic Work and a great service to an important medium.

22 posted on 04/26/2003 5:30:11 PM PDT by edwin hubble
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To: MadIvan
"the dictator was colluding with the world's most ruthless terrorist operation."

Evidently the governments of France, Germany, and Russia were colluding with both.

23 posted on 04/26/2003 5:31:59 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Peace is the prerogative of the powerful. The path to peace is confrontation, not appeasement.)
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To: MadIvan
Yep. Hey, Ivan, don't know if you have seen this piece yet, but if you haven't, please take a gander. I think the author has it figured out.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/901006/posts
24 posted on 04/26/2003 5:32:12 PM PDT by William McKinley (You're so vain, you probably think this tagline's about you)
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To: MadIvan
Well lets see how he feels after another month of revelations from the Telegraph!!!!!

Pretty amazing stuff they are turning up!

25 posted on 04/26/2003 5:34:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and where is Tom Daschle?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Well another thing about these anti-war people, even when they are obviously wrong, they won't shut up. Take George Galloway, for example.

Regards, Ivan

26 posted on 04/26/2003 5:35:13 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
These leftist bozos keep changing their protests:
____________________

"This will be a disaster. We'll lose. Saddam has all kinds of chemical weapons he'll use on us...and we have no right to invade anyway, because Blix says they don't have any chemical weapons..." (cut to two weeks later)

"Weeeeell....we never doubted that we'd WIN the war...it's all about whether there were any links to Al Queda..."(cut to two weeks later)

"OK. So they DID have training camps for Al Queda...so what? It's never been about that...it's about whether there were any WMD's in the first place..."

(Cut to the day WMD stockpiles are discovered)

"Uhhhh...well, we never doubted he had WMD's, but uhhhhhhh..it's more like uhhhhh...whether he would have used them....man."
________________________

It's important to hold these sniveling scumbags to their absolutely brain-dead statements, and mash their snouts in each one of their little lawn mines.

27 posted on 04/26/2003 5:36:28 PM PDT by guitfiddlist
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To: MadIvan
.."IS it SAFE?" = HILLARY on Armed Services Committee..

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=629
28 posted on 04/26/2003 5:36:56 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: arete
Without any WMD turning up, looks like the administration is going to Plan B.

Yeah, that's what it is, Plan B. Thanks for the insight.

29 posted on 04/26/2003 5:39:39 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: MadIvan
the Bush administration was keen to draw attention to a report issued by the Czech Republic's interior ministry claiming that Mohamed Atta, the lead hijacker, had met an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague earlier that year. The report later turned out to be false.

I wouldn't be sure about this. George Tenet and several others insisted that it was false, but according to numerous creditable news sources at the time, senior Czech intelligence officials continued to insist that it was true.

I don't trust George Tenet.

30 posted on 04/26/2003 5:39:55 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: guitfiddlist
Nicely done and I agree with your conclusion!
31 posted on 04/26/2003 5:40:12 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and where is Tom Daschle?)
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To: MadIvan
"Bush always suspected Saddam was behind 9/11"

Yet another example of the intelligence of George W. Bush.

"This belief has been the driving force behind Washington's determination to seek 'regime change' in Baghdad"

Correct. The United States conquered Iraq in order to defend America. The American people faced a choice: they could fight in the Middle East, now, when they had an overwhelming military advantage, or in America, within a few years, when these adversaries were armed with nuclear weapons. President Bush wisely chose now and there.

Do not forget: The stated intention of these people is to kill Americans and overthrow the United States government, and they have already attacked the U.S.

32 posted on 04/26/2003 5:41:39 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Peace is the prerogative of the powerful. The path to peace is confrontation, not appeasement.)
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To: MadIvan
the Bush administration was keen to draw attention to a report issued by the Czech Republic's interior ministry claiming that Mohamed Atta, the lead hijacker, had met an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague earlier that year. The report later turned out to be false

It did not turn out to be false.

Some in Czech intelligence, and in our own CIA, tried to discredit the report that Atta met the Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague. Why? I believe Laurie Mylroie and others think it is because they are trying to cover up their own intelligence failures.

Last I heard, top democratically elected Czech officials continue to stand by the report.

33 posted on 04/26/2003 5:43:15 PM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: Republican Wildcat; tuckrdout; MadIvan
Including the connection between Iraq and Oklahoma City, perhaps????? I'm waiting, and will not be surprised when this link is identified.

Clinton's more convenient perpetrators were "right-wing" extremists, Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols. The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy was a more motivating political tool for him, truth be damned. Nothing to see in the Philippines (al-Queda) and there were never 2 Middle Eastern men fleeing Oklahoma City after 4/19/95.....

Somebody connect the dots!!!!!!
34 posted on 04/26/2003 5:46:45 PM PDT by RightOnGOP
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To: MadIvan; William McKinley; Ernest_at_the_Beach
MadIvan: Have you NO shame whatsoever?

arete: Don't you think that it is even a little odd [insert conspiracy theory here]

Well Ivan, don't let it get you down for a second. The answer to your question is a resounding YES.

Since when have any of us known liberal friends or Libertarian friends ever admit they were wrong? Must be hard living with the responsiblity of all that pretention.

35 posted on 04/26/2003 5:48:16 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Press Secret; Of 2 million Shiite pilgrims, only 3000 chanted anti Americanisms--source-Islamonline!)
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To: arete
we're expected to think they are master magicians who make huge complex weapons programs disappear.

That is exactly what you are asking me to believe if you actually think there are no WMD in Iraq.

Huge quantities of these weapons were there before. What do you think happened to them?

36 posted on 04/26/2003 5:50:24 PM PDT by Monti Cello
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To: MadIvan
No. If you were an Iraqi official, the last thing you'd want to do is be caught dead with WMD. Sorry if that logic escapes you.

LOL -- there are plenty of low level officals that would flip in an instant if offered immunity and a couple of hundred dollars. Don't be sorry for me. You're the one being suckered by the propaganda machine.

Saddam, as most anyone sane admits, had become a master of concealment. No I'm not surprised that the weapons are difficult to find. Nor am I surprised that anti-war people are already complaining about the length of time to find the weapons, because no timescale was ever going to be good enough.

Well, why then did we expect the UN is find all those huge piles of WMD is a short period of time? We kept telling Blix, "They're right under your nose. You must be blind."

I suspect when they are found, you will next complain that it wasn't "enough" WMD to justify an invasion, and even if they are found in massive quantities, I am sure you will complain that these WMD weren't lethal enough in total to justify the invasion.

To tell you the truth, I don't think that you are very sure of anything or you wouldn't be trying so hard to make an as yet unproven and empty case.

Your position, to be sure, is not the product of any legitimate concerns or questions - it is an attempt to find some crack in the logic of taking out Iraq.

Find a crack!?! LOL The whole war on Iraq was sold on a false pretense. That's not a crack -- that's fly over country.

Every anti-war person should be utterly ashamed given what we've discovered just so far about this regime. The fact that you're not, and your premature crowing about WMD, indicates you are indeed anti-war no matter what, a position which has grown more pathetic and despciable over time.

I haven't learned a single thing about Saddam since the war began that I didn't already know. The guy was a two bit thug who ruled with an abusive iron fist. I am patiently waiting to learn with real, not fabricated evidence or FOX News, how he was a threat to me.

Richard W.

37 posted on 04/26/2003 5:51:31 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: arete
We kept telling Blix, "They're right under your nose. You must be blind."

Quit lying. Seriously.

Our position, which remained unchanged, is that inspections would never work.

Your revisionist history is an insult to our intelligence.

38 posted on 04/26/2003 5:56:05 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: MadIvan
MadIvan,Thanks.
39 posted on 04/26/2003 6:00:46 PM PDT by fatima
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To: arete
LOL -- there are plenty of low level officals that would flip in an instant if offered immunity and a couple of hundred dollars. Don't be sorry for me. You're the one being suckered by the propaganda machine.

Excuse me? I'm not the one who is adhering to the Stop the War Coalition's line on everything - saying no war in Iraq was ever justified. I have posted countless articles from a variety of newspapers, left, right, centre - from the USA, Canada, Britain and Australia. The weight of what they tell me about what Saddam has, and what his regime is, contradicts your far-left dogma.

Well, why then did we expect the UN is find all those huge piles of WMD is a short period of time? We kept telling Blix, "They're right under your nose. You must be blind."

We expected Blix to be more aggressive in his pursuit of those weapons. Second, there was a material breach given that the declaration given by the Iraqi regime in December was not complete.

To tell you the truth, I don't think that you are very sure of anything or you wouldn't be trying so hard to make an as yet unproven and empty case.

I can't begin to tell you how many articles I've posted that directly contradict you. Hundreds perhaps. All you are posting is your own opinion, which is adhering to the anti-war stance no matter what.

I am reacting strongly to you because I hate liars, and you are lying, perhaps to yourself, but definitely to me.

Find a crack!?! LOL The whole war on Iraq was sold on a false pretense. That's not a crack -- that's fly over country

A "false pretence" which you have not yet proven is false but are assuming is false. And you're the one calling me taken in by propaganda.

I haven't learned a single thing about Saddam since the war began that I didn't already know. The guy was a two bit thug who ruled with an abusive iron fist. I am patiently waiting to learn with real, not fabricated evidence or FOX News, how he was a threat to me.

Given your frame of mind and your attitude, I dare say no proof will ever be enough. After all, you're on a thread, one of several, that indicates that Al Qaeda and Iraq were working together. That has not penetrated your thick skull. Nor will anything, I dare imagine, that will shatter your smug, condescending attitude regarding the necessity of invading Iraq - which does have so many echoes of Scott Ritter.

Ivan

40 posted on 04/26/2003 6:01:01 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: arete
Your Al Qaeda s--- sandwich is up, and your WMD sandwich is on the grill. We'll be sure to ping you when your other order's ready....Would you like some French Fries wit 'dat?
41 posted on 04/26/2003 6:05:34 PM PDT by guitfiddlist
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To: Dog Gone
Quit lying. Seriously. Our position, which remained unchanged, is that inspections would never work.

You guys are too funny. You are living the big lie and accusing everyone else of the offense. That's a real hoot.

The administration set up a fabricated WMD story and all the party loyalists and Bush-bots jumped on board. Now, they are madly scambling to find an emptly can of Raid in the local Baghdad garbage dump to prove themselves right. Things get curiousor and curiousor.

Richard W.

42 posted on 04/26/2003 6:12:47 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: arete
The administration set up a fabricated WMD story and all the party loyalists and Bush-bots jumped on board. Now, they are madly scambling to find an emptly can of Raid in the local Baghdad garbage dump to prove themselves right. Things get curiousor and curiousor.

I'm not willing to accept the opinions of a "person" who neither has any proof to back up their assertions, nor can spell "curiouser" correctly.

Ivan

43 posted on 04/26/2003 6:13:57 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
I'm still amazed that there have been people who doubted that all of the Islamic terrorists have been allies at some level all along.

Diversity Is Not Our Strength
Bill

44 posted on 04/26/2003 6:14:05 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: guitfiddlist
Your Al Qaeda s--- sandwich is up, and your WMD sandwich is on the grill. We'll be sure to ping you when your other order's ready....Would you like some French Fries wit 'dat?

On a scale of 10, I'll be generous and give you a 3 for originality, deep thought and an intelligent response. ROTFL!!

Richard W.

45 posted on 04/26/2003 6:16:35 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: Dog Gone
I'd just be happy if all these anti-war mealy-mouths would just admit that it's GWB that sticks in their crawl-not the war. They are really just anti-GWB. They still can't get over Florida. It's going to bite them badly.
46 posted on 04/26/2003 6:17:12 PM PDT by GOP_Proud
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To: arete
What you said is a lie. You can make fun of the post or you can address the facts.

You can't.

47 posted on 04/26/2003 6:19:43 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: arete
...Hope you have an appetite...

P.S. Your "ROTFL" at your own comment is quite a bit self-congratulatory and consequently in poor taste, but...to be expected from the likes of you.

48 posted on 04/26/2003 6:22:56 PM PDT by guitfiddlist
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To: MadIvan
on the other hand, there was absolutely no reason for 9.11 to occur.

remember, the u.s. airlines cancelled the air marshall program because they thought it was too expensive?
49 posted on 04/26/2003 6:23:33 PM PDT by liberalnot
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To: MadIvan
I'm not willing to accept the opinions of a "person" who neither has any proof to back up their assertions, nor can spell "curiouser" correctly

Ivan, you have been a good sport for the most part. I think that you are wrong and you think I am wrong. But, when it comes to my spelling which at times leaves much to be desired I might add, I can only offer you this --

"And of course Alice herself ....... taking the time to explore and learn about her surroundings and ask questions. Curiousor and Curiousor ! The more she learnt the less she understood. Unafraid of anything. Meeting each new obstacle or hurdle with determination and strength. And questions ... always more questions from this bright eyed youngster ... A symbol of all that we once were."

Here's the link for you. Nice read. Lighten up.

Alice In Wonderland: Revisited

Richard W.

50 posted on 04/26/2003 6:29:31 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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