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Tacoma police chief shoots wife, kills himself
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^

Posted on 04/27/2003 12:54:50 PM PDT by ATCNavyRetiree

Tacoma police chief shoots wife, kills himself

By LEWIS KAMB, PHUONG CAT LE, ANGELA GALLOWAY and RUTH TEICHROEB SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTERS

GIG HARBOR - Tacoma's police chief shot his wife and then himself in the parking lot of a strip mall Saturday afternoon while the couple's two young children were nearby.

David Brame died at St. Joseph's Hospital in Tacoma about 6 p.m. His wife Crystal was in critical condition at Harborview Medical Center in Seattle.

On Friday, the Seattle Post-Intelligencer reported that Crystal Brame, 35, had obtained a temporary restraining order in February against her husband. In subsequent court papers, she had accused him of pointing his service revolver at her and trying to choke her during two separate incidents in the past six months.

The couple were going through a divorce.

Brame, a veteran officer who rose through the ranks to become chief in January 2002, denied those allegations in court papers filed in King County Superior Court last month.

Saturday's shooting happened at about 3:10 p.m., said Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer.

"We don't believe other people are involved," Troyer said. "The victims were the chief of the Tacoma Police Department and his wife. We believe he shot her and then shot himself."

Crystal Brame was in a black Toyota Camry with the couple's two children when David Brame approached the vehicle, authorities said. The two had arranged to meet in the shopping mall parking lot. David Brame took the two children - 8-year-old Haley and 5-year-old David - to his burgundy Toyota Camry, which was parked nearby. He then returned to the car Crystal Brame was in. He got in also and a short time later two shots were fired, authorities said.

NOTE: This story has been updated since it was originally posted.

"The kids were screaming," said Kirsten Oakland, who works in a hair salon at the mall. "Who would have thought? Awful. This affected the entire community in a split second."

An off-duty King County paramedic was the first to arrive on the scene and begin treatment.

"It appeared she (Crystal) managed to open the door and fell down to the ground," Troyer said. "And the paramedic pulled up right next to her in the car."

Neither child was hurt. They were with their mother's parents Saturday night, Troyer said.

George Sharp, a supervisor for the Rite Aid store, said almost nobody in the store actually heard the shooting. Many learned of it from customers and employees coming in for their shifts who had learned about the shooting from news reports.

"A lot of people expressed shock that it did happen in Gig Harbor and the customers and the employees wish that it hadn't happened but they didn't really feel any more threatened as they would if it were a drive-by or it were a random act," Sharp said.

"I think that people are saddened it got to that stage and unhappy that it happened here, and unhappy that it happened at all."

Troyer said one of the Brame children got out of the car and went into a nearby Hollywood Video store. Witnesses took the other child to the store too.

Jesse Hentz, assistant manager of the Hollywood Video, said: "I feel really bad. And I want the family to know that people care about them."

In court papers, Crystal Brame portrayed her husband as controlling and jealous, refusing to let her use their credit card without permission and checking her car's odometer to monitor trips to the grocery store.

She also accused him of leaving his loaded service revolver on a bedroom shelf within reach of their two children.

Her fear increased last November when she alleged that the 44-year-old Brame "choked me and threatened that he could snap my neck if he wanted to." It was the fourth time that year he'd tried to choke her, each time sending flowers later to apologize, she said.

And just before they separated in February, she alleged in court documents that Brame pointed his service revolver at her, "telling me 'accidents happen.' "

She did not report either incident to police.

David Brame had maintained he was the real victim of domestic violence during his 11-year marriage. He said he reported the assaults to police -- first to his boss, then-interim Chief Ken Monner and to an officer who photographed his bruises; then to police in Gig Harbor, where he was living at the time.

Both times David Brame insisted that police not arrest his wife or even investigate his allegations - even though a state law requires officers to arrest anyone accused of domestic violence if the complaint is credible.

He explained his unusual behavior in court documents by saying he wanted to "protect himself" in case his wife ever tried to malign him with false abuse allegations.

Tacoma City Councilman Mike Lonergan, who sits on the council's public safety committee, said he had a hard time believing the shooting had happened.

"We knew David from his professional side. This is a total shock," Lonergan said Saturday. "He presented himself as a very together person, business-like and very likeable. This entire thing is hard to grasp."

Although Lonergan said the usually outgoing Brame had been withdrawn and seemed depressed lately, he had no idea what was going on at home.

"To know David Brame took the action he did today shows that there was a whole lot beneath the surface we couldn't see," Lonergan said.

Ken Bunting, executive editor of the P-I, said "this is a tragic development in lives that, from all accounts, have been troubled for quite some time. These events are not only painful for the family, but for the community and all who have the responsibility to ask the difficult questions about it. Domestic violence is never a comfortable topic."

Paul Pastor, Pierce County sheriff, announced Brame's death from outside St. Joseph's hospital. He said only that Brame had died of a gunshot wound; no other details were given.

"This is terribly sad news for this city and this community," Pastor said.

Carlos Sambrano, a childhood friend of the chief, went to the hospital to support the family. He said he and Brame played baseball at Lincoln High School.

"He never appeared to be a violent person," said Sambrano, who described his friend as a "class act."

Visibly distraught over the news of his friend's death, Sambrano said: "What's this world coming to."


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To: HairOfTheDog
__What did this man think his children would do in the minutes following this act? __

I'll be dead so I won't care. Slightly related is this: In a way, he may have harmed his wife the most by NOT killing her.
241 posted on 04/28/2003 1:01:19 PM PDT by Not Insane
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To: Not Insane
There is something wrong with saying he "lost it"? Are you doubting that he did? - Exactly how would you define "lost it", Mr. Not Insane? No one says his stress wasn't real. We know he was stressed, for cryin' out loud.

He didn't survive his stress. It was more than he could bear. The tragedy of his downfall from such a respectable pinnacle is sad indeed. If he had cheated on his wife and then run for office most here would be calling for his head. That he fired a round into her head makes *him* a victim? Is it really that hard for you to condemn this behavior?
242 posted on 04/28/2003 1:01:48 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Not all those who wander are lost)
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To: BeforeISleep
__He meant to kill her, he killed himself.__

We meant to kill Saddam. In both cases the "attempter" felt justified in their actions.

Of cours, like you, I agree in the one case but not the other.
243 posted on 04/28/2003 1:02:42 PM PDT by Not Insane
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To: Frohickey
Huh?
244 posted on 04/28/2003 1:04:14 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Not all those who wander are lost)
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To: Not Insane
I am not sure I understand where you are coming from, this is a truly strange thread!


245 posted on 04/28/2003 1:06:52 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Not all those who wander are lost)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Me: Yep. He lost it, due to some stress in his life.

You: "There is something wrong with saying he "lost it"? Are you doubting that he did?"


My answer - IF you look at what I said, you'll see why I must assume you meant to respond to someone else.
246 posted on 04/28/2003 1:08:54 PM PDT by Not Insane
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To: Not Insane
Sorry if you were being sarcastic. Read the other replies and maybe you will understand that it is a bit hard to read this thread with the odd takes paople have had on this case!
247 posted on 04/28/2003 1:10:52 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Not all those who wander are lost)
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To: HairOfTheDog
I was trying to say that is really what his "at the time" self centered AND selfish frame of mind would have probably come up with, assuming he was thinking about them at all.

I have been where he was, to some degree. However, I knew that if I ever "lost it" it would prove the lies being told about me.

Time told who was telling the truth - in spades.

Of course I have something this man didn't have: Christ. This life is a temporary thing. My focus is less on this life than the afterlife (at least when I'm at my best). He will keep me His no matter what happens.

He did!
248 posted on 04/28/2003 1:13:00 PM PDT by Not Insane
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To: HairOfTheDog
Yes! I have a hard time with this stuff because I am QUITE aware there are both men AND women behaving badly in this stuff, and sometimes the only way to know who to believe is to come back ten years later and see what happened. People have a tendency to become more transparent as time allows their nature to unfold before God and everybody.

I have a friend whos wife decided to take up with her old boyfriend and divorce her husband. One day she acted odd and seemed to be trying desperately to pick a fight with him (before the divorce had really gotten rolling). He wouldn't bite. She eventually broke down in tears and said her attorney had told her to get him to hit her and then call 911 - for obvious reasons.

He was, and is, a good guy.

On the other hand, I have another friend who was firing one of his handguns in a drunken stupor in his front yard of a suburban neighborhood.

He was the bad guy.

Then there is my situation. A lot of lies were being told, and some still believe them. But time has made it pretty clear to everyone who still knows me. Oh, and I still actually have friends, some of which were even on the other "side" during the divorce.

I refuse to call this shooter a bad guy until all the facts are in. He may truly be a "good guy" who lost hope and cracked under pressure. All of his wifes claims may be true as well. One thing's for sure: One of the risks that goes with the territory of being a cop is an over inflated "power trip" attitude. It can have very negative results.

Keep in mind, BTW, that I think the only REAL "good guy" was hung on a cross.
249 posted on 04/28/2003 1:22:00 PM PDT by Not Insane
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To: HairOfTheDog
this is a truly strange thread!

I agree...
250 posted on 04/28/2003 1:42:08 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: Bogey78O
Make a run at pulling out the political aspects of this story. Don't forget to lie, cheat, steal, and embellish as much as possible so that you can pass on your views to the other people here at freerepublic.
251 posted on 04/28/2003 2:20:13 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Not Insane
Tell me, have you ever been under the type of stress he was under? I haven't.

From what I can tell by the article the only stress he had was possible pending divorce and possibly an embarassment to him careerwise --- most of us at some point will go through far greater stress ---such as an ill child, sick parents, actual loss of a job. I don't see his big excuse for what he did --- he was a control freak and feared his victim was going to become her own person.

252 posted on 04/28/2003 3:59:43 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: archy
It's too bad Crystal Brame and the bystanders around her didn't have theirs handy.

Anyone who has had someone try to choke them 4 times and point a gun at them threatening to kill them definitely should have gotten a gun and carried it with her at all times, also never intentionally meet face-to-face with the terrorizer and be prepared to defend their own life.

253 posted on 04/28/2003 4:03:55 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
"From what I can tell by the article the only stress he had was possible pending divorce and possibly an embarassment to him careerwise"

I can't even tell that for sure. I've been through family court and it was not going to impact my career in the least (except for the money I lost). That said, thoughts went through my mind that I am uncomfortable with sharing with anyone. It was beyond anything I thought I could endure, literally. I surprised myself.

That said, our government is pissing off hundreds of thousands of its tax paying males, and puting them through what I went through. This is not going to be pretty, if they don't do something to stop this divorce fiasco.

After my experiences in court, I consider our government to be evil and beyond just contemptable. There are more and more like me every day.

I haven't, and will not act on it, other than in legal ways (which can be very effective, once you know the nature of the beast). They better hope they don't create the wrong enemies or this could be a real problem. As long as those that can't cope turn in on themselves and immediate families, at least we can continue to blame the suicidal man and not the "cause." If it gets too far outside those boundaries, well, we'll see what everybody thinks, I guess.

By the way, my guess is that the Tacoma guy felt that his life had already come to an end and he was just finishing the job, and trying to off the other person he believed was "responsible."

254 posted on 04/28/2003 4:12:07 PM PDT by Not Insane
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To: ATCNavyRetiree
A senseless waist of human life.
255 posted on 04/28/2003 4:19:42 PM PDT by b4its2late (I don't mind the rat race, but I could do with a little more cheese.)
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To: ATCNavyRetiree
Make that waste.
256 posted on 04/28/2003 4:20:06 PM PDT by b4its2late (I don't mind the rat race, but I could do with a little more cheese.)
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To: Not Insane
THERE WILL BE MORE DEATH, THE FAMILY COURTS & THE CORRUPT
CHILD SUPPORT SYSTEMS ARE THE BLAME. LET'S NOT FORGET THE
DEMONCRATS LIKE BOXER, WHO KEEPS MAKING NEW LAWS TO DESTROY MEN/FATHERS/BABIES...
257 posted on 04/28/2003 6:38:25 PM PDT by Orlando
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To: Almondjoy
Checking your history you are on bitter almond. All your posts tend to be hostile flames at people. I'm assuming this is your flame account and not your regular one.
258 posted on 04/28/2003 7:09:08 PM PDT by Bogey78O (check it out... http://freepers.zill.net/users/bogey78o_fr/puppet.swf)
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To: Not Insane
That said, thoughts went through my mind that I am uncomfortable with sharing with anyone. It was beyond anything I thought I could endure, literally.

Luckily there aren't many "thought" crimes and for good reason ---but that's the difference between imagining and doing. I know a guy in the military service who uttered outloud "I could just strangle that woman" when he saw how many long distance phone calls his wife had made one month and it got him in all kinds of trouble ---but he never meant he really could.

259 posted on 04/28/2003 10:23:48 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Orlando
"THERE WILL BE MORE DEATH, THE FAMILY COURTS & THE CORRUPT CHILD SUPPORT SYSTEMS ARE THE BLAME. LET'S NOT FORGET THE DEMONCRATS LIKE BOXER, WHO KEEPS MAKING NEW LAWS TO DESTROY MEN/FATHERS/BABIES..."

first of all...get help...

secondly, I don't see any present ongoing conspiracy to destroy men/fathers/babies.....

maybe 40 yrs ago, a woman might have the advantage, but not now...

and let's not forgot about who usually has the money to buy the lawyers...

anyway, the system is worse now because of this crazy "joint custody" crap....children can not be split into two lives just because we adults haven't a clue how to get along....

I think nowadays, statistics would show that men and women get about equal custody.....

let me remind you of the case down in Florida....the woman married a "man" who was actually a woman undergoing sex-change operations and drug therapy to finish the job...

the bio woman already had one child...

they then thru artificial insemination had another child.....

the "man" never completed his course of surgery...apparently, he/she was happy enough....he did look manly, in a rolly polly sort of way, with a moustache...

well, lo and behold the woman got fed up and divorced ....she got original custody..

but in a move that I will never understand, the court gave full custody back to the "Man" ......he/she is a biological mess, and yet the court gave the "daddy" custody ( remember, the one son was born before they married...)

so you see....I think the courts actually have gone too far the other way....

260 posted on 04/28/2003 10:44:55 PM PDT by cherry
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