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French helped Iraq to stifle dissent
The Daily Telegraph ^ | April 28, 2003 | Alex Spillius and Andrew Sparrow

Posted on 04/27/2003 5:00:29 PM PDT by MadIvan

France colluded with the Iraqi secret service to undermine a Paris conference held by the prominent human rights group Indict, according to documents found in the foreign ministry in Baghdad.

Various documents state that the Iraqis believed the French were doing their utmost to prevent the meeting from going ahead.

Ann Clwyd, the Labour MP who chairs Indict, said last night that she would be demanding an apology from the French government for its behaviour, which she described as "atrocious".

The files, retrieved from the looted and burned foreign ministry by The Telegraph last week, detail the warmth and strength of Iraqi-French ties.

They include a six-page letter dated February 1998 from Saddam Hussein to Jacques Chirac, welcoming the French president's support in the campaign against sanctions and assuring him that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction.

The documents regarding Indict show that pro-Saddam elements, "Iraqi and Arab brothers", gained access to the conference, which opened on April 14, 2000, at the Hotel La Concorde Lafayette.

Indict's attempt to mount a protest outside the Iraqi ambassador's residence was foiled by the authorities.

A month after the meeting, a letter headed "Role of Southern France" (sic) from Saddam's office authorised the finance ministry to pay $383,439 to undisclosed beneficiaries.

Perhaps the most damning document is from the Iraqi intelligence service, Iris. The service, known as the Mukhabarat in Iraq, operated as the domestic secret police and as an external intelligence agency.

Its role abroad was to collect intelligence, murder opponents and maintain relations with friendly groups. The document, dated March 28, 2000, is from the head of Iris to Saddam's office.

At the time the organisation was run by Tahir Jalil al-Habbush, number 14 on America's wanted list. The letter appears to be written by a different hand from one revealed last week purporting to record that George Galloway benefited from contracts under the oil for food programme. But it carries the same signature.

It states that "one of our sources" met the "deputy spokesman" of the French foreign ministry, "with whom he has good relations".

It claims that the spokesman from the justice and interior ministries had sought to find a legal way of preventing the Indict meeting.

The paper said it had been agreed that no Iraqi opposition leaders would be granted visas for France to attend the conference. It is not clear if Iraqis living outside the country were granted visas.

Although the conference went ahead, the Iraqis regarded moves to undermine it as a striking success.

A memo dated April 18, 2000, was sent to Saddam's office by the then foreign minister, Mohammad Said al-Sahaf, who later became the information minister nicknamed "Comical Ali". It is headed "The Failed Enemy Conference in Paris" and says that the French media ignored the event.

Miss Clwyd, MP for Cynon Valley, recalled various attempts at disruption.

Saddam supporters staged a protest outside before it started, she said, and at one point a bomb scare led to the hall having to be evacuated.

Victims of Saddam's regime gave evidence at the conference and filming was strictly forbidden because they feared being identified.

But someone smuggled in a camera and started filming, Miss Clwyd said.

"The police were called. But they could not take the film from the man because he was an Iraqi accredited to the Moroccan embassy."

The French foreign ministry denied collusion.

A Quai d'Orsay source said it should not come as a surprise that French officials met Iraqi intelligence officers in Baghdad. But he denied accusations of specific collaboration to disrupt the conference.


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You bastards, France.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 04/27/2003 5:00:29 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: alnick; knews_hound; faithincowboys; hillary's_fat_a**; redbaiter; MizSterious; Krodg; ...
Bump!
2 posted on 04/27/2003 5:00:43 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Will the non-Muslim French populace care? I think not.
3 posted on 04/27/2003 5:03:34 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: MadIvan
I don't think any new revelation about France and Iraq would surprise me now. When I remember de Villepan's speech at the UN about how France stood for the moral highground, it's all I can do not to gag.

French whores.

5 posted on 04/27/2003 5:08:22 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: MadIvan
"The police were called. But they could not take the film from the man because he was an Iraqi accredited to the Moroccan embassy."

You have to wonder how many Iraqis died from this one exposure. When the full story is written I sincerely doubt that the French will be very welcome in Baghdad, eh Ivan.

7 posted on 04/27/2003 5:10:46 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: Arkinsaw
It may make them more popular.
8 posted on 04/27/2003 5:11:25 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: MadIvan
bttt
9 posted on 04/27/2003 5:11:34 PM PDT by ellery
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To: MadIvan
Too bad for France that Iraq kept good records. We're just starting to find out how France was in bed with Saddam, and I'll bet there's plenty left to be found out.
10 posted on 04/27/2003 5:11:49 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: seamole
Is there a Galloway here in the states? I've had that feeling that this will be one of the big stories in the coming weeks.
11 posted on 04/27/2003 5:12:13 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I have a feeling this is just the tip of the iceberg. No wonder they were so nervous about us going into Iraq.

Regards, Ivan

12 posted on 04/27/2003 5:17:27 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity; HitmanNY; MadIvan
Agreed. This is just the tip of the "iceberg." There are "several" large crates for various "nations"(US included) and international organizations EU and UN. I wonder if some in this country(USA) are like Galloway. I myself believe if there are..............HANG'EM!! Normally, I would support hard labour as a sentence. But, Treason and collusion in aiding and abetting of crimes against Humanity,well,my compassion draws the line there. There should be public trials then public executions. Mercy is a worthwhile thing. But even Mercy has "limits"!(Yes I know it won't be public, but then again.....theres always hope!)
13 posted on 04/27/2003 5:38:42 PM PDT by Madcelt (Hello!!!! Free America - Get US out of the UN!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
ping
14 posted on 04/27/2003 5:39:44 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
I have a feeling this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Bill Kristol said as much this morning on Tony Snows Sunday Morning show based on what he had heard from various sources.

Can't find a transcript though!

15 posted on 04/27/2003 5:43:52 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and where is Tom Daschle?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Bill Kristol said as much this morning on Tony Snows Sunday Morning show based on what he had heard from various sources.

"THE DNC FILES"...coming to a theatre soon.

16 posted on 04/27/2003 5:48:56 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: Madcelt
As Shakespeare put it - "Mercy but murders, pardoning those that kill". If we allow the French to get away with this, we will have written a blank cheque for them to do this in the future with other regimes.

Regards, Ivan

17 posted on 04/27/2003 5:49:07 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Dog Gone
I have to come to the defense of French Whores. They ought not be associated with ChIraq and his bootlicks. Even fresh, hot pavement dog doo on the sole of one's shoe is more noble than the Frog King.
18 posted on 04/27/2003 5:59:27 PM PDT by Leisler (I am a carnivore and I vote.)
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To: MadIvan
Once again. I agree. There must be an "accounting" for this. One way or the other, justice must prevail and be served.
19 posted on 04/27/2003 6:03:40 PM PDT by Madcelt
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To: Arkinsaw
"Will the non-Muslim French populace care? I think not."

Is there a non-Muslim French population?

I doubt it.
Semper Fi

20 posted on 04/27/2003 6:06:58 PM PDT by river rat (War works......It brings Peace... Give war a chance to destroy Jihadists...)
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To: Leisler
Good point. I needlessly slurred them.
21 posted on 04/27/2003 6:15:02 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: MadIvan
This is just the beginning. The French have never been our allies, aren't are allies now, and never will be our allies. It's time to wake up, and stay that way.
22 posted on 04/27/2003 6:16:58 PM PDT by OfByForThePeople
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To: MadIvan
We all knew the UN was dead. Unless frogland is expelled from NATO, it's dead too.
23 posted on 04/27/2003 6:16:58 PM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Those who sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither.)
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To: Dog Gone
One strives to think of some metaphor to even begin to describe the frog political class. Every descriptive tool has it’s limits of accuracy. ChIraq might be below the bottom limits of descriptive English.
24 posted on 04/27/2003 6:22:15 PM PDT by Leisler (I am a carnivore and I vote.)
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To: HitmanNY
Bill Kristol alluded to that on TV, that the Galloway is only the tip of the iceberg, and he implied he has some intel info.
25 posted on 04/27/2003 6:22:45 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: MadIvan
France gets deeper and deeper. Galloway gets deeper and deeper. Let's see how deep Ritter gets.
26 posted on 04/27/2003 6:24:47 PM PDT by doug from upland (- to Bill -"You are not fit to be commander in chief" -- father of Sgt. Shughart who died in Somalia)
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To: seamole
The Galloway trial should be good.

I can't wait for them to find Ritter's file and a few others.

27 posted on 04/27/2003 6:24:51 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: MadIvan
Much ado, much ado. The French,
alas, are shameless. It is good
to know these things, though, in
order to hate them properly.
28 posted on 04/27/2003 6:32:37 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: MadIvan
French shipments of Jews to Germany in the 1940s were also extraordinarily efficient and proactive.

Like the lambs to the slaughter...

29 posted on 04/27/2003 6:34:21 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: gcruse
I think we will do more than hate them, like throwing them out of NATO, stop trading with them, marginalize them and make them irrelevant on the world stage.
30 posted on 04/27/2003 6:34:43 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: MadIvan
Le French Connection revealed, heheheh.
31 posted on 04/27/2003 6:36:44 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: FairOpinion
We have seen the French colors,
I can't wait to see ours.
32 posted on 04/27/2003 6:40:58 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: HitmanNY
"Is there a Galloway here in the states?"

There must be, because they also found a box marked 'US'. I hope our Galloway spells his or her name D-A-S-C-H-L-E or C-L-I-N-T-O-N OR L-E-E. Surely Scudball Ritterbox is in there as well.

33 posted on 04/27/2003 6:43:52 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: doug from upland
"France gets deeper and deeper. Galloway gets deeper and deeper. Let's see how deep Ritter gets"

And which of our OTHER *favorite* people are on the list.

34 posted on 04/27/2003 7:06:18 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: MadIvan
France: Saddam's lackeys. Will they suck up to Kim for protection now?
35 posted on 04/27/2003 7:07:41 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
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To: Brad Cloven
They seem to be headed for Iran at the moment.
36 posted on 04/27/2003 7:22:05 PM PDT by Kadric
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To: Dog Gone
French whores.

Actually, some things never change. Here is a quote from the nineteenth century:

"France has neither winter nor summer nor morals. Apart from these drawbacks it is a fine country. France has usually been governed by prostitutes." ---Mark Twain

37 posted on 04/27/2003 7:37:52 PM PDT by Excuse_Me
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To: MadIvan
This makes me sick! When do we invade France?
38 posted on 04/27/2003 7:57:55 PM PDT by Paradox
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To: seamole
The Galloway trial should be good.

The Galloway execution should be better.

39 posted on 04/27/2003 9:21:44 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Open the pod bay door HAL.)
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To: seamole
Thanks for the ping!
40 posted on 04/27/2003 9:55:11 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
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To: MadIvan
Taliban, Saddam, Osama bin Laden, North Korea, Syria, Iran and France.

Get France out of NATO today - they are enemy combatants of the US.


41 posted on 04/27/2003 9:58:15 PM PDT by Kay Soze (France helped Osama Bin Laden kill 3,000 US citizens in New York on Sept 11,2001.)
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To: HitmanNY
You posted this question: Is there a Galloway here in the states?

Ramsey Clark comes to mind immediately and his buddies connected with ANSWER. Clark arranged the interview that Dan Blather had with the Soddomite Double.

The Baghdad three, McDermott, Bonior and Thompson were probably funded by Soddomite. Bonior has a long list of Islamofacist funding and actions like Galloway.

42 posted on 04/27/2003 9:58:45 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Let's begin looking closely at the evidence and ferret out these treasonous individuals, whoever they are.
43 posted on 04/27/2003 10:11:46 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: cake_crumb
I hope our Galloway spells his or her name M-C-K-I-N-N-E-Y.
44 posted on 04/27/2003 10:20:18 PM PDT by numberonepal
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To: HitmanNY
Clark and Bonior have long records of funding coming from Opecker Princes and Islamofacist thugs.

McDermott had at least one donation last year from one of the pro Islamofacist Groupd.

I don't know about Thompson.

The other factor that people are over looking is money that may have come from so called American Corporations that are really owned and controlled by French Corporations.

It will be hard at first until we get some sonar pings at to where under the piles to look for the connections.
45 posted on 04/27/2003 10:22:50 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
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To: numberonepal; backhoe
Jihad Cindy had hundreds of Middle East contributors from all over America who contributed to her elecions. That has been established and documented. The Freepers from Ga have that documentation.

I believe that Backhoe has that data indexed on Jihad Cindy.
46 posted on 04/27/2003 10:25:07 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
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To: MadIvan
And will anyone be suprised if we turn up some damning memos on French knowledge or involvement with the Iraqi children's prison?

F--- the F-----!

47 posted on 04/27/2003 10:34:06 PM PDT by Smedley
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To: MadIvan
Saddam's whores
48 posted on 04/27/2003 11:46:38 PM PDT by Beth
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To: Grampa Dave; All
-Jihad Cindy? McKinney won't go quietly... indeed, she may not go away at all... --
49 posted on 04/28/2003 12:53:46 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old keyboard cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the sunset...)
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To: MadIvan
I think I've made my last visit to France.
50 posted on 04/28/2003 3:51:46 AM PDT by libertylover (Grateful to all who have served.)
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