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Maher Admits Naivete, Thought "Right to Privacy" in Constitution (Coulter)
MRC ^ | 10:20am EDT, Monday April 28, 2003 | BrentBaker

Posted on 04/28/2003 8:19:50 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay

The controversy last week over Senator Rick Santorum's remarks about the slippery slope of the Supreme Court finding a right to any kind of consensual sex based on a "right to privacy" in the penumbra of the Constitution, has had one benefit: A well- known liberal commentator on political issues has conceded his naivete about which rights are in the Constitution.

On Friday night's Real Time with Bill Maher on HBO, Maher admitted: "This has been a learning experience for me. I also thought that privacy was something we were granted in the Constitution. I have learned from this when in fact the word privacy does not appear in the Constitution."

Maher's admission of his naivete came after columnist/author Ann Coulter observed on the April 25 program: "I think what he said was completely defensible and I think it's an important point, which is, you know, the Constitution describes a limited form of government and then there's a Bill of Rights with very few rights. And I think that Americans should start to recognize there are a lot of good things that aren't constitutional rights." Maher then conceded: "You know what, this has been a learning experience for me. I also thought that privacy was something we were granted in the Constitution. I have learned from this when in fact the word privacy does not appear in the Constitution."

You wonder how many journalists share Maher's basic lack of knowledge about the Constitution, a lack of knowledge which may explain much of the bad reporting on the matter.

A right to "privacy" was first broached by the Supreme Court in its 1965 Griswold v Connecticut decision overturning a state ban on birth control and solidified in the majority's Roe v Wade discovery of a privacy right in the "penumbra" of the Constitution in order to find rationale for overturning state bans on abortion. But it isn't in the Constitution.

On March 28, Maher won the MRC's "Ashamed of the Red, White, and Blue Award" at our "DisHonors Awards: Roasting the Most Outrageously Biased Liberal Reporters of 2002." His winner, from a November 1, 2002 appearance on CNN's Larry King Live:

Maher: "We take pride in being big charity givers. We're in fact dead last among the industrialized nations. We give an infinitesimal amount of our money to people around the world. I think what people around the world would say is it would take so little for this rich country to help and alleviate so much misery and even that is too much for them. We're oblivious to suffering."

King: "And so we are hated because of this?"

Maher: "Yes I think so. I mean, I think, Iraqis, I think, feel that if we drove smaller cars, maybe we wouldn't have to kill them for their oil."

HBO's site for Real Time with Bill Maher, which has aired Friday nights at 11:30pm EDT/PDT: http://www.hbo.com/billmaher/

Starting this Friday, Maher's show will be replaced for ten weeks by On the Record with Bob Costas. But the time slot will still feature left-wing anti-war activists: Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins will be on Costas' first show this Friday.

When posted, this CyberAlert will be readable at: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2003/cyb20030428.asp


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: constitution; costas; coulter; maher; righttoprivacy; santorum
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To: CobaltBlue
Of course I know what Google is. When I simply put in the terms you supplied, I get articles like this:

Small donors show up U.S. aid

I either get stuff on Chile and junk that I have to wade through or nothing of help at all.

The wonder of Free Republic is that, oftentimes, Freepers interested in a matter have done the wading, have reliable sources and are only too glad to share them.

With the responses I've had to this simple question, I'm beginning to wonder about this subject. I just want to know the true situation of foreign aid compared to other nations'. The "go find it from scratch" response makes me wonder if my belief that of course the U.S. gives more in aid is based on anything tangible.

81 posted on 04/29/2003 7:33:27 AM PDT by jwalburg (Knowledge is power; power corrupts.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Thank you. The first helpful answer.
82 posted on 04/29/2003 7:35:33 AM PDT by jwalburg (Knowledge is power; power corrupts.)
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To: jwalburg
I don't do free online research for people because I subscribe to the "teach a man to fish" principle.

Give a man a fish, and you feed him for one day.
Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

When you do online research, you will have to wade through irrelevant articles. Tough toenails.

I taught my kids to research and they don't whine about not having things dropped into their laps.
83 posted on 04/29/2003 8:50:02 AM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: fight_truth_decay
Yes, that's the chart I turned up when I did my search. Wasn't hard to find, was it?
84 posted on 04/29/2003 8:52:49 AM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: Puddleglum
>>It means, is it allowed by explicit language/meaning in the Constitution.<<

Not so. That's why I mentioned Marbury vs. Madison. If you are interested in Constitutional law, you need to start with that case.

>>proscribing a limited number of children would violate the 1st amendment<<

Reproduction as free speech? Interesting argument.
85 posted on 04/29/2003 8:56:57 AM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: Puddleglum
Oh, wait, I get your argument about the First Amendment. You think that telling someone how many children they can have would violate the Establishment clause, because some people's religions don't allow birth control.

Well, some people's religions allow them to have more than one wife (Mormons, Muslims) but the state can regulate that, can't it?
86 posted on 04/29/2003 9:00:15 AM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: fight_truth_decay
It's not just journalists who don't have a clue what the constitution actually says. There's that whole 'separation of church and state' myth.
87 posted on 04/29/2003 9:28:36 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: CobaltBlue
>>It means, is it allowed by explicit language/meaning in the Constitution.<<

Not so. That's why I mentioned Marbury vs. Madison. If you are interested in Constitutional law, you need to start with that case.

Thanks for the tip - I will go read Marbury vs. Madison. I am interested in Constitutional law and always enjoy learning more. It's something I wished I'd gotten to study more in school.

Reproduction as free speech? Interesting argument.

I guess it depends on the noises made...never mind!

88 posted on 04/29/2003 10:42:30 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: Puddleglum
You can't really get the full significance of Marbury vs. Madison by reading the case, you need to read commentary.

In a nutshell, the Constitution doesn't expressly give the US Supreme Court the power to declare acts of Congress or state laws unconstitutional, but it's implied.

89 posted on 04/29/2003 10:56:05 AM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: CobaltBlue
Wasn't hard to find, was it?

Not at all..took no time to find.

90 posted on 04/29/2003 12:43:04 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay (occupied)
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To: jwalburg
I use http://www.ask.com less wading..I guess it is what one is used to. Sometimes I jump to google..but ask.com has always been my first search site.
91 posted on 04/29/2003 12:46:58 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay (occupied)
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To: CobaltBlue
Becomes the 'thrill of the hunt'...now if you could find me Hillary's senior thesis in actual format..I would be more than impressed; of course, I don't dedicate my life to it.
92 posted on 04/29/2003 12:50:06 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay (occupied)
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To: fight_truth_decay
As you know finding Hillary's senior thesis is a tough challenge, but may I suggest that you read something written by Saul Alinsky, her mentor, about whom the paper was written?
http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/Alinsky-SaulRef.html
93 posted on 04/29/2003 1:16:45 PM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: CobaltBlue
Thanks..I have to a degree and know of her commencement address. Yes, I am familar with Alinsky..she did however turn down his offer to work for him after college. As I said I dont make it my mission in life to find it, just one of those things that has been removed would take some degree of pleasure scanning over it.

Regards
F_T_D
94 posted on 04/29/2003 1:26:53 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay (occupied)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Wow, you added 2 + 2 and came up with 22.

Yes, the 4th Amendment is important here. I've been quoting it to other libertarians today. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures

Now from that you deduce that we have a Law Free Private Zone, or the Mythical Right To Privacy?

Good golly, people, first I see all these Libertarians running around like chickens with their heads cut off shreaking about this being the beginning of an Orwellian conspriracy, but the 4th Amendment should calm the fears of that conspiracy. So you read that, quote from it, yet still can't see the truth!

The operative word in the Amendment is unreasonable meaning get a bench warrent. Are you worried about a judge swearing out a warrent for a Class C misdemeanor of Sodomy in Texas? No. Now if your beloved Right To Privacy isn't fought against by conservatives, all the issues Santorum spoke of, in addition to dealing drugs, prostitution, you name it-become sealed off from Justice. Where do you draw the line? You CAN'T when you add to the Constitution this canard of an arguement.

95 posted on 04/29/2003 4:30:47 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Press Secret; Of 2 million Shiite pilgrims, only 3000 chanted anti Americanisms--source-Islamonline!)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Why are you railing at me? I agreed that the 4th is against unreasonable search, i.e. a warrant stating who, what, and where is to be searched and what they are looking for.

IF a cop has reasonable suspicion to believe that a crime is being committed and he has to have more evidence than simply suspicion, he can get a warrant and begin the process to prosecute the crime. However, misdemeanors like sodomy in the privacy of one's home are rarely prosecuted.

Read more of my posts on this thread.

96 posted on 04/29/2003 4:41:07 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: birdsman
You mean that the Constitution doesn't give us a right to privacy? Wow! Next thing you know, someone's going to say that the phrase "seperation of church and state" isn't in the constitution either! From your tag line, you sure you "used" to be? I'm not kidding.

What in the world spiked you peoples' water? The Right To Privacy is not written in the The Bill Of Rights, nor the subsequent Amendments. Yet with some Judicial Activism not half a century ago, you people think its gospel. The Law Free Private Zone is not enumerated by the Founding Fathers not because they didn't want to spell out every Right in order to save ink or not have all Rights limited, its because this Law Free Private Zone is an obvious (duh!) rationalization for anarchy and the Founders are smarter than Libertarians and Liberal Judges.

97 posted on 04/29/2003 4:41:33 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Press Secret; Of 2 million Shiite pilgrims, only 3000 chanted anti Americanisms--source-Islamonline!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Well, I can't find any more of your posts here.

So we are in agreement then?
98 posted on 04/29/2003 4:48:33 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Press Secret; Of 2 million Shiite pilgrims, only 3000 chanted anti Americanisms--source-Islamonline!)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Observation, the consitution is not written to grant any rights. It is written to limit the power of the federal government. In that respect the rights are not written in a positive sense i.e. "We shall have the right to X, rather they are written in a negative i.e. the government SHALL NOT, etc.

In short the so called Bill of Rights is incorrectly named. It should be called the Bill of Not's.

99 posted on 04/29/2003 5:34:41 PM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Maybe it was a different thread dealing with the "right to privacy" but, yes, we essentially agree.
100 posted on 04/29/2003 7:49:21 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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