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Santorum Crisis Exposes Republican Weakness
The Pro-Family Law Center ^ | 29-Apr-2003 | Scott Lively

Posted on 04/28/2003 2:25:50 PM PDT by Remedy

The Rick Santorum controversy has illuminated a serious problem in the Republican Party: its leaders seem woefully ill-prepared to defend the pro-family position on homosexuality. As an attorney who trains pro-family activists how to debate this issue, I would like to offer my fellow Republicans the following advice.

First, don't dodge the issue in fear of political correctness or pro-"gay" media bias. Stand confidently upon the essential pro-family presuppositions that resonate with people of common sense: 1) normality is that which functions according to its design, 2) the heterosexual design of the human body and the natural family is self-evident, 3) respecting the design of life produces good results (conversely, rejecting that design produces bad results) and 4) simple observation validates these assumptions. No special education or "scientific" study is required.

Failure to articulate the logic of our position cedes the moral and intellectual battleground to the militant "gays," and leaves the impression (even among our own supporters) that we have no reasonable response, other than religious belief, to their attack on family values.

Second, contest the hidden false assumption underlying most pro-"gay" arguments that homosexuality is immutable. We have a strong case on this point since 1) proponents of the "gays are born that way" justification for normalizing homosexuality bear the burden of proof, 2) proof is absolutely necessary due to the severity of social change which is contemplated by their demands, 3) proponents cannot prove that homosexuality is immutable (Indeed, ex-homosexuals can prove that it is not.), 3) if homosexuality is not immutable, then logically it must be acquired (children being the most likely to acquire the condition because of their vulnerability to social conditioning), and 4) society must err on the side of caution, actively discouraging the normalization of homosexuality in order to protect children and others from the possibility of acquiring a homosexual condition with its attendant health risks.

Third, expose the deceptive terms, such as sexual orientation, diversity and homophobia, which are used by pro-"gay" proponents to confuse the issue and control the debate. This requires nothing but making them define their terms at the start of argument, then focusing the debate on clarifying the definitions and exposing their illogic and hypocrisy.

Consider sexual orientation, for example. Does orientation mean "state of mind" or conduct? If it includes conduct, which conduct? Does it include sodomy? Fisting? Rimming? Sadism? If not, why not? Regarding diversity, what is the standard used to decide who gets to be in the circle of inclusion? They don't have one, but you'll have fun with this -- especially if they attempt to draw the line at "hate" groups. What is their definition of hate? (and by that definition, do they "hate" us and thereby invalidate their own membership in the community of diversity?) Speaking of hate, remember that they have defined homophobia as "hate and fear of homosexuals." Ask them to identify some examples of non-homophobic opposition to homosexuality. They can't do it because they define all opposition as "homophobic." Do they really believe that disapproval of sodomy/rimming/fisting/sadism is irrational bigotry? You get the idea. You'll find that this technique derails virtually every pro-"gay" argument because each one relies on deceptive rhetoric.

Fourth and finally, get off the defensive and take the offensive on the homosexual issue by purging "gay" activism from the Republican Party. The implicit goal of the "gay" movement is the normalization of an anything-goes sexual morality -- the antithesis of the family values so dear to our Republican base. Instead of inviting into our tent the very constituency that many Republicans have spent years and fortunes opposing, why not conduct a meaningful family-values outreach to ethnic minorities? Let the Democrats continue to be the party of sexual deviance and let us exploit that identification to woo away their healthy families to the higher Republican standard.

What is needed from Republican leaders is articulate, confident and continual advocacy of the pro-family world view. Without it, we might as well say farewell to Rick Santorum and other defenders of family values, because if things continue as they are, these courageous people will have no place in the future GOP, the Gays' Other Party.


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To: tdadams
No, I'm sick of answering the same questions over and over, when you fail to deal honestly with any of the points I have raised.

Like all of those pushing the leftwing social agenda, you make constant demands, but ignore the answers you don't like.
241 posted on 04/29/2003 2:23:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Remedy
Another BUMP for good measure.
242 posted on 04/29/2003 2:25:44 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Remedy
Actually, Best of the Web indicates the the uproar over Santorum's remarks presage a national fight for gay marriage that will most likely benefit Republicans, as an overwhelming percentage of the population opposes Gay marriages.
243 posted on 04/29/2003 2:26:33 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Jhoffa_
Look who's talking...
If you were happier in your own life, perhaps you would be less concerned about how others live theirs. Or perhaps you're just angry with yourself because you lack the courage to come out--just yet. Who knows?
244 posted on 04/29/2003 2:27:08 PM PDT by Asclepius (to the barricades)
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To: Asclepius
LOL I just asked a simple question. Does it bother me? No. Do I want homosexuals arrested? Yes.
245 posted on 04/29/2003 2:32:03 PM PDT by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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To: Asclepius
LOL!

Because I find homosexual behavior to be disgusting, immoral and generally something society need not encourage, of course it must mean I am a closeted homosexual?

It's typical for someone who's immoral to project his own thought's, feelings and motivations onto others.. I suppose it makes them feel better about themselves.

246 posted on 04/29/2003 2:34:07 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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To: Khepera
Do I want homosexuals arrested? Yes.
Oh, great idea. We could build internment camps for them, make them wear yellow stars or some other identifying insignia, and, later, extirminate them.

Then we can all draw straws to see who's next.
247 posted on 04/29/2003 2:36:20 PM PDT by Asclepius (to the barricades)
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To: EternalVigilance
Where have I failed to answer you honestly? Where have I evaded you?

It seemed obvious to me, and I pointed it out, that any further reasoned argument had eluded you. I have and will continue to address any points you care to bring up.

248 posted on 04/29/2003 2:36:38 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: Jhoffa_
Because I find homosexual behavior to be disgusting, immoral and generally something society need not encourage, of course it must mean I am a closeted homosexual?
Precisely. If you were comfortable with your own masculinity this wouldn't even be an issue for you. Apparently you're not, and it's killing you inside; your own self-loathing assumes the character of a general hatred for those who are more comfortable with their sexual identities.

In time I'm sure you'll discover a path that's right for you.
249 posted on 04/29/2003 2:39:51 PM PDT by Asclepius (to the barricades)
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To: Asclepius

Obviously, what you don't know is allot..

To begin with I am quite happy with me, no "loathing" whatsoever. Also, I am not allowed to "hate" homosexuals as individuals for their sin. I do hate their activities and their agenda, however..

It's not "killing me inside" and further, they can reform. It happens. No problem.

However, what I can't do is endorce their activity and I refuse to grant them special status because of who they sleep with. That's illogical. I won't do it.

I also refuse to accept their agenda or any attempt at moral equivelance.

This is lost on you because you measure everyone by the ridiculous standard of how far they endorce your own self indulgent, destructive and immoral behavior.

BTW, you sound like a bitter, bitter man. Not very "gay" at all, IMO.

I already have, it is my hope that you will come around eventually and stop supporting this nonsense.
250 posted on 04/29/2003 2:50:16 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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To: tdadams
I have and will continue to address any points you care to bring up.

Okay. Address why I should have to bear the tax burden for life-long healthcare for homosexuals who, because of their practices, have contracted AIDs, hepatitus, etc.

Address why I should sit idly by while the public schools, with my tax dollars, attempt to inculcate my children, and the children in my community, with beliefs that offend and disgust me.

That's a start.

251 posted on 04/29/2003 2:50:19 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Address why I should have to bear the tax burden for life-long healthcare for homosexuals who, because of their practices, have contracted AIDs, hepatitus, etc.

Personally, I don't think you, or anyone, should. I don't want to either. Unfortunately, we live in a psuedo-collectivist society where our congresscreeps have passed laws forcing us to pay for other people's mistakes.

Now, you've voiced your opposition to homosexuals on those grounds... address my question from earlier. Being consistent - I know how you hate moral relativism - do you also hope to outlaw mountain climbing, skateboarding, smoking, drinking, and driving? All of those things can lead to injury and society has to pay the costs.

Address why I should sit idly by while the public schools, with my tax dollars, attempt to inculcate my children, and the children in my community, with beliefs that offend and disgust me.

If it concerns you, you shouldn't sit idly by. Have you campaigned for the school board?

252 posted on 04/29/2003 3:05:27 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: tdadams
Have you campaigned for the school board?

ROFL...I've done more than my fair share, yes.

253 posted on 04/29/2003 3:31:19 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Jhoffa_
Obviously, what you don't know is allot..
And yet I know all about you. Go figure. I only hope you can achieve some degree of peace with yourself.
254 posted on 04/29/2003 3:34:07 PM PDT by Asclepius (to the barricades)
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To: Torie
Just punish these this rather intolerant and strident species of social conservative in the primary, and if one actually wins the primary (a very rare event), and the one is too offensive, just vote for the Dem in the general...

I don't know how I missed that. Typical liberal Republican plan. And yet you whine when conservatives won't vote for a liberal Republican in a general.

255 posted on 04/29/2003 3:46:25 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Eva

as an overwhelming percentage of the population opposes Gay marriages.

For many good reasons:

SODOMY : Forever and Ever, Amend (Sodomite Unions)

256 posted on 04/29/2003 3:53:27 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Asclepius
It's called projection..

You personify it.

257 posted on 04/29/2003 3:54:05 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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To: Remedy
I hope if they ever do legalize gay unions, that they include the federal income tax marriage penalty.
258 posted on 04/29/2003 3:54:35 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Remedy
Another negative for gay couples who have children is that they will no longer qualify as single parents for welfare.
259 posted on 04/29/2003 3:56:45 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

for gay couples who have children

SODOMY : He has no mama now

260 posted on 04/29/2003 4:02:31 PM PDT by Remedy
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