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Neal Boortz and ADD
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Posted on 04/29/2003 8:40:41 AM PDT by Houmatt

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To: Poohbah
These kids are easily recognized because they DO react positively (extremely positively) to being treated with Ritalin--they stop bouncing off the walls and they can focus on their schoolwork

That's a good way to tell a real case of ADHD from one that has ADHD like symtoms. Stimulants like amphetamines cause an ADHD's mind to slow down to the point where the ADHD striken person can actually stay focused close to as long as a normal person could. Also they actually mellow out and don't bounce of the walls ... for a change. A normal person on stimulants is like an ADHD person is without the stimulant. Funny how it works ....

261 posted on 05/02/2003 10:36:24 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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To: luckystarmom
Does he have a problem with the physical part of writing.(dysgraphia) or the actual writing? My son has both. He was in Occupational Therapy for a while to help with the physical part of writing. Maybe your son would do better if he could dictate, or learn keyboarding, if it the physical part of writing that he has trouble with.
262 posted on 05/02/2003 10:37:03 AM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: Poohbah
Do you know if there are ANY restrictions put on people who took Ritalin as a child? I have heard that a person can't be a pilot in the Armed Forces if they have that in their history. This has been another reason I have fought so hard against medication. I don't want to put limits on what he can do in the future.

You have relieved one of my worries, anyway. Thanks. : )
263 posted on 05/02/2003 10:39:35 AM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: Zavien Doombringer
Nope. My Dad used his belt, although he didn't need to with me. I was scared to death of his HANDS. He is a BIG guy, and his hands are huge!! : )
264 posted on 05/02/2003 10:44:09 AM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: Politicalmom
One tip for those who's ADHD kids can't focus on reading something not entertaining to them .... have them yellow line the book with a marker. It REALLY helped me in college. I found that if I yellow penned as I read, I would actually memorize the parts that I penned as I penned them. AND it also helped keep my eyes focused on what I was reading instead of wandering.
265 posted on 05/02/2003 10:48:14 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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To: clamper1797
That's a good way to tell a real case of ADHD from one that has ADHD like symtoms.

Some "ADHD-like" symptoms are actually symptoms of BATS--"Boring-A$$ Teacher Syndrome."

266 posted on 05/02/2003 10:55:19 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah
You got that right .... I had the Ben Stein of teachers for english in high school. Always caught up on my sleep in that class. That is where one learns to ALWAYS sit in the back row.
267 posted on 05/02/2003 10:57:55 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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To: clamper1797
have them yellow line the book with a marker

Interesting observation. I just IMed that to my husband and he agrees. He always found that whatever he wrote down, he remembered even if he couldn't read it later.

268 posted on 05/02/2003 10:59:31 AM PDT by FourPeas
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To: FourPeas
You don't have to write it .. just line over the important parts with a yellow marker as you read ... works absolute wonders for the ADHD ... at least it does for me.
269 posted on 05/02/2003 11:02:57 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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To: FourPeas
BTW ... in post 253 ... I had to check to see if I was married to you ... you described me to a tee when you wrote about your husbands symtoms
270 posted on 05/02/2003 11:05:21 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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To: FourPeas
For me, it also worked if I typed out my notes in school, on the word-processor. Take the notes, read the notes, and type the notes. That way you are taking in the information more than once.
271 posted on 05/02/2003 11:05:29 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
That works for me too ... it's that computer thing
272 posted on 05/02/2003 11:09:48 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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To: Politicalmom
Do you know if there are ANY restrictions put on people who took Ritalin as a child? I have heard that a person can't be a pilot in the Armed Forces if they have that in their history.

There are a LOT of things that will disqualify one as a pilot--temporary medication is extremely unlikely to.

273 posted on 05/02/2003 11:22:15 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Politicalmom
My mother used to chase my eldest brother about the house with the broom. One day, when he was about sixteen, he said, "No, Ma! You aren't going to do that!" and he promptly took the broom away. My mother retaliated, by removing her shoe. Needless to say, my brother ran!

Ha!
274 posted on 05/02/2003 11:26:38 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
i have ODD occupation defiance disorder :) will my boss give me a time out doh, i guess so thats a pink slip but if its a disorder then they cant fire me under the americans with disabilities act! so they would have to accomodate me. btw im joking i actually like my job
275 posted on 05/02/2003 11:58:34 AM PDT by Kewlhand`tek
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To: Politicalmom
He definitely does have problems with the physical part of writing. I have him dictate some of his reports to me. He's just learning to type on the computer, but I think I'm going to encourage that over the summer. He actually was working on a report on the computer last night, and he was doing much better on the computer than with actually writing it.

OT would help, and we have had him evaluated. However, it's expensive and time consuming, and he won't qualify for help at school.
276 posted on 05/02/2003 5:06:43 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: FourPeas
Thanks for the input. I'm trying to get prepared for next year. If we're having lots of problems, then something is going to change. I'm tired of having homework problems and an unhappy kid. It's very trying to see a very smart kid struggling with school.

I would definitely do things differently than school.
277 posted on 05/02/2003 5:13:06 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Houmatt; netmilsmom; Johnny Gage; SauronOfMordor; clamper1797; TheWillardHotel; luckystarmom; ...
FYI

http://www.breggin.com/ Seen on Hannity & Colmbs a few times
http://www.brainrecovery.com/
http://www.adhdfraud.com/
http://www.dadi.org/ritalin.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/824747/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b2dd43f0823.htm
http://www.fightforkids.com/purpose.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/833635/posts
http://www.mercola.com/2002/apr/20/ritalin_patch.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2002/apr/13/depression_drugs.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/648293/posts

Read this, then read the posts regarding the book "The War Against Boys"
http://www.dadi.org/ritalin.htm

The War Against Boys

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684849577/qid=1010179628/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_3_1/002-0565676-2218456
http://umbc7.umbc.edu/~korenman/wmst/hoffsommers.html
http://www.friesian.com/sommers.htm
http://www.cblpolicyinstitute.org/waragainst.htm
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/articles/11-24-00/harder.html
278 posted on 07/17/2003 2:06:11 PM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life and Straight and gave an innate predisposition for self-preservation and protection)
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To: Houmatt
"I have long been saying ADD is just an excuse for bad behavior. And then Neal Boortz comes along and validates it."

Oh, wonderful. You use Boortz to validate a medical opinion?

Boortz is absolutely irresponsible. He isn't smart enough to shut up. What Boortz says about ADD/ADHD borders on crying fire in a crowded theatre. He has no right to say these things as he has no clue about these conditions.

279 posted on 07/18/2003 5:01:34 PM PDT by DaGman
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To: TomHarkinIsNotFromIowa

A lot of these are the ones who dropped out of school, got kicked out of school, or ended up in prison because they turned to drugs, alcohol, or violence. Had there been treatment for this very real ADHD, these very smart kids wouldn’t have ended up as adults with a very low self esteem.


280 posted on 05/21/2011 8:28:45 AM PDT by TeresaAyers
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