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African Women and AIDS {African AIDS due to UN pop con efforts, NOT heterosuxual behavior}
PRI Weekly News Briefing ^ | 29 April 2003 | Steve Mosher

Posted on 04/29/2003 2:34:58 PM PDT by Polycarp

 

29 April 2003
Volume 5/ Number 13


Dear Colleague:

In Africa, nearly 6 out of 10 victims of HIV/AIDS are women. Why does the disease disproportionately strike African women? Because, say the gender feminists at the United Nations, they are powerless to refuse sex with HIV-positive men. We disagree with this ideologically-motivated assessment. We believe that the targeting of women and girls for invasive contraceptive, sterilization and abortion procedures by so-called Sexual and Reproductive Health programs is largely responsible.
 
Steven W. Mosher
President


African Women and AIDS

An examination of HIV/AIDS statistics by region and by gender reveals a curious anomaly. In areas of the world where the primary means of transmission is assumed to be heterosexual sex, such as sub-Saharan Africa, North Africa and the Middle East, and the Caribbean, the majority of HIV-positive adults are women. The United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS
(UNAIDS) and the World Health Organization have recently called attention to this disparity in their AIDS Epidemic Update. In sub-Saharan Africa, for example, they report that 58 % of those who have HIV/AIDS are
women.(1) In the younger age groups the disparity is even higher: “[O]verall about twice as many young women as men are infected in sub-Saharan Africa. In 2001, an estimated 6-11 percent of young women aged 15-24 were living with HIV/AIDS, compared to 3-6% of young men.”(2)

These results are surprising because they appear to contradict what we know about human sexual behavior. Cross-culturally, men are more promiscuous than women. They have more sexual partners before marriage and higher rates of marital infidelity. Moreover, some of their numbers patronize prostitutes, who are a prime vector for AIDS transmission. These are all behaviors which expose men to a greater risk of sexually contracting HIV/AIDS.

“Why do young African women appear so prone to HIV infection?” asks UNAIDS and WHO. Their answer (which of course assumes that HIV is sexually
transmitted) is that African women are forced by circumstances to have sex with HIV positive men: “Women and girls are commonly discriminated against in terms of access to education, employment, credit, health care, land and inheritance. . . [R]elationships with men (casual or formalized through
marriage) can serve as vital opportunities for financial and social security, or for satisfying material aspirations. But, in areas where HIV/AIDS is widespread, they [men] are also more likely to have become infected with HIV. The combination of dependence and subordination can make it very difficult for girls and women to demand safer sex (even from their husbands) or to end relationships that carry the threat of infection.”

This explanation—that African women are infected by rapacious men—may be convincing to the radical feminist mind, but it completely begs the question. Why does HIV in Africa disproportionately strike women?

The answer lies in the medical transmission of HIV/AIDS. The public health sector in many African countries has simply collapsed. African clinics are short of almost everything, from vaccines and malaria tablets to rubber gloves and needles. Little, if any, care is available to African men and women ill with malaria and other tropical diseases. Medical equipment, such as syringes, surgical instruments, and manual vacuum aspirators, cannot be properly disinfected before they are reused. The local blood supply is unreliable.

The one exception to the generally dismal state of primary health care in Africa is Western-funded Sexual and Reproductive Health (SRH) programs targeting women. African medical workers are taught (and paid) to emphasize reproductive health procedures (contraception, sterilization, and abortion), often to the near exclusion of primary health care. Poorly equipped clinics are kept well-supplied with Depo-Provera, IUDs, and condoms. According to Dr. Stephen Karanja, the former Secretary of the Kenyan Medical Association, “Thousands of the Kenyan people will die of malaria whose treatment costs a few cents, in health facilities whose stores are stacked to the roof with millions of dollars worth of pills, IUDs, Norplant, Depo-Provera, most of which are supplied with American
money.”(3)
 
Is it mere coincidence that the same groups that are targeted for invasive procedures are disproportionately afflicted with AIDS? We think not. Women and girls account for such a high percentage of HIV/AIDS victims in Africa because they are infected during procedures designed to disable their reproductive systems and prevent them from conceiving or bearing children. Up to 70% of HIV infections in Africa, according to a recently published study in the peer-reviewed International Journal of STD and AIDS, occur as a result of substandard health care, primarily HIV transmission through reuse of needles.(4)
 
To paraphrase UNAIDS, it is the dependence and subordination of women to clinic personnel—often the only available source of health care for themselves and their families--that makes it very difficult to demand safe medical care, and to end medical relationships that carry the threat of infection.


 
Endnotes

(1) “AIDS Epidemic Update,” Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS)/World Health Organization (UNAIDS/WHO), December 2002, p. 6.

(2) “Ibid., p. 19.

(3) “Dr. Stephen Karanja: Health System Collapsed,” PRI Review (March/April 1997), 7(2): p. 4.

(4) David D. Brewer, Stuart Brody, Ernest Drucker, David Gisselquist, Stephen F. Minkin, John J. Potterat, Richard B. Rothernberg, and Francois Vachon, “Mounting Anomalies in the Epidemiology of HIV in Africa: Cry the Beloved Paradigm,” Int. J. of STD & AIDS 2003; 14:144-147. David Gisselquist, John J. Potterat, Stuart Brody, and Francois Vachon, “Let it be Sexual: how Health Care Transmission of AIDS in Africa was Ignored,” Int. J. of STD & AIDS 2003; 14:148-161. David Gisselquist and John J. Potterat, “Heterosexual Transmission of HIV in Africa: An Empiric Estimate,” Int. J. of STD & AIDS 2003; 14:162-173.


Steve Mosher is the president of Population Research Institute, a non-profit organization dedicated to debunking the myth that the world is overpopulated.


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1 posted on 04/29/2003 2:34:59 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: .45MAN; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; Antoninus; aposiopetic; Aquinasfan; ...
The one exception to the generally dismal state of primary health care in Africa is Western-funded Sexual and Reproductive Health (SRH) programs targeting women. African medical workers are taught (and paid) to emphasize reproductive health procedures (contraception, sterilization, and abortion), often to the near exclusion of primary health care. Poorly equipped clinics are kept well-supplied with Depo-Provera, IUDs, and condoms. According to Dr. Stephen Karanja, the former Secretary of the Kenyan Medical Association, “Thousands of the Kenyan people will die of malaria whose treatment costs a few cents, in health facilities whose stores are stacked to the roof with millions of dollars worth of pills, IUDs, Norplant, Depo-Provera, most of which are supplied with American money.”(3)

Is it mere coincidence that the same groups that are targeted for invasive procedures are disproportionately afflicted with AIDS? We think not. Women and girls account for such a high percentage of HIV/AIDS victims in Africa because they are infected during procedures designed to disable their reproductive systems and prevent them from conceiving or bearing children. Up to 70% of HIV infections in Africa, according to a recently published study in the peer-reviewed International Journal of STD and AIDS, occur as a result of substandard health care, primarily HIV transmission through reuse of needles.(4)


2 posted on 04/29/2003 2:38:23 PM PDT by Polycarp ("He who denies the existence of God, has some reason for wishing that God did not exist.")
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To: Polycarp
Wow, this is quite a charge:

Up to 70% of HIV infections in Africa, according to a recently published study in the peer-reviewed International Journal of STD and AIDS, occur as a result of substandard health care, primarily HIV transmission through reuse of needles.(4)

If it's true, don't expect to hear about it on broadcast news or any newspaper near you.

3 posted on 04/29/2003 2:44:05 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: Polycarp
TIN FOIL HAT TIME

So9

4 posted on 04/29/2003 2:46:32 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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To: Polycarp
BUMP. Dr. Karanja is a great guy and very sharp.
5 posted on 04/29/2003 2:48:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Polycarp
These results are surprising because they appear to contradict what we know about human sexual behavior. Cross-culturally, men are more promiscuous than women. They have more sexual partners before marriage and higher rates of marital infidelity. Moreover, some of their numbers patronize prostitutes, who are a prime vector for AIDS transmission. These are all behaviors which expose men to a greater risk of sexually contracting HIV/AIDS.

Actually, from what I can see, these results are supported by what we know about human sexual behavior, and about AIDS. If an HIV-infected man are able to impose themselves on multiple women, and if (as is known), male to female transmissions of HIV is much more efficient than female to male transmission of HIV, then you'd expect to see many more women than men have HIV infection in such a population. And that's what we see.

While non-sexual transmission of AIDS in Africa is very likely a serious problem, blaming it, and blaming the specific procedures of contraception as spreading them, is conjecture at best.

6 posted on 04/29/2003 2:57:36 PM PDT by RonF
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To: Polycarp
These results are surprising because they appear to contradict what we know about human sexual behavior. Cross-culturally, men are more promiscuous than women. They have more sexual partners before marriage and higher rates of marital infidelity. Moreover, some of their numbers patronize prostitutes, who are a prime vector for AIDS transmission. These are all behaviors which expose men to a greater risk of sexually contracting HIV/AIDS.

What the author conveniently forgets is that in any given encounter with an infected partner the women will always be at higher risk of infection than the man simply due to being the receptive partner.

HIV is most easily transmitted through minute breaks in the skin, exposing the blood supply to the virus. This is more likely to occur in womens vaginal mucosa than on the mans genitalia during sex.

And if what I've heard is true, that there is a preference in Africa for "dry" sex, this would make it even more likely to occur due to damage to the women's tissues.

So I wouldn't be surprised at all to see more women infected than men given the same amount of exposure.

LQ

7 posted on 04/29/2003 3:02:16 PM PDT by LizardQueen
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To: RAT Patrol
Wow, this is quite a charge:

Up to 70% of HIV infections in Africa, according to a recently published study in the peer-reviewed International Journal of STD and AIDS, occur as a result of substandard health care, primarily HIV transmission through reuse of needles.(4)

On the other hand, almost all African women are mutilated by "female circumcision", making vaginal intercourse painful. So ... they prefer anal intercourse.

I remember seeing a documentary some time ago that asserted that the chances of an infected male transmitting HIV to the recipient of anal intercourse (male or female) is about 1 in 3, while the chances of an uninfected male receiving it from an infected recipient of anal intercourse is like 1 in 30, and more like 1 in 300 if the male is circumcized. So this would be at least a contributory factor.

8 posted on 04/29/2003 3:03:20 PM PDT by Mack the knife
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To: Polycarp
I have an episode of the TV Show "United Nations World Chronicle" in which the discuss population control. At one point in the show the host jokes with the U.N representative about their promotion of pornography in Brazil in order to lower the birth rate and the U.N representative acknowledges that they have been involved in this. Population control is a really scary subcurrent of modern international relations.
9 posted on 04/29/2003 3:03:36 PM PDT by Odyssey-x
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To: Polycarp
Is it mere coincidence that the same groups that are targeted for invasive procedures are disproportionately afflicted with AIDS? We think not. Women and girls account for such a high percentage of HIV/AIDS victims in Africa because they are infected during procedures designed to disable their reproductive systems and prevent them from conceiving or bearing children. Up to 70% of HIV infections in Africa, according to a recently published study in the peer-reviewed International Journal of STD and AIDS, occur as a result of substandard health care, primarily HIV transmission through reuse of needles.(4)

The statement in bold print, which is peer reviewed, does not necessarily follow from the statement that precedes it, which is conjecture and is not peer-reviewed. The odds that a woman has been HIV infected by an invasive contraceptive procedure has to be weighed against how many invasive non-contraceptive procedures women are subjected to (another potential source of AIDS) and how many sexual episodes they are subjected to unwillingly or otherwise by HIV-infected men (remembering that an HIV-infected man is more likely to give a non-infected woman AIDS than an HIV-infected woman is to give a non-infected man).

10 posted on 04/29/2003 3:04:29 PM PDT by RonF
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To: Mack the knife
Interesting. Ah, but truth will never trump politics, especially when large sums of money are involved.
11 posted on 04/29/2003 3:06:09 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: LizardQueen
The bit about preference for "dry sex" is apparently an attempt by prostitutes to deceive their customers into thinking that they are reluctant virgins rather than seasoned pros. This is supposed to be cultural, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's also due to the fact that a virgin is much less likely to have AIDS, and also because there is apparently a misapprehension in Africa that sex with a virgin cures AIDS.
12 posted on 04/29/2003 3:07:03 PM PDT by RonF
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To: Servant of the Nine

Press Release
20 February 2003

Unsafe healthcare "drives spread of African HIV"

Since the 1980s most experts have assumed that heterosexual sex transmitted 90% of HIV in Africa. In the March International Journal of STD and AIDS, an international team of HIV specialists presents groundbreaking evidence to challenge this consensus, with "profound implications" for public health in Africa.

In a series of articles, Dr David Gisselquist, Mr John Potterat and colleagues argue that the spread of HIV infections in Africa is closely linked to medical care. In their unique study of existing data from across the continent they estimate that only about a third of HIV infections are sexually transmitted. Their evidence suggests that "health care exposures caused more HIV than sexual transmission", with contaminated medical injections being the biggest risk.


Sexual behaviour

  • HIV and STDs: According to the authors' data, African HIV did not follow the pattern of sexually transmitted disease (STD). In Zimbabwe in the 1990s HIV increased by 12% a year, while overall STDs declined by 25% and condom use actually increased among high-risk groups.

  • Infection rate: HIV spread very fast in many countries in Africa. For the increase to have been all via heterosexual sex, the study claims, it would have to be as easy to get HIV from sex as from a blood transfusion. In fact, HIV is much more difficult than most STDs to transmit via penile-vaginal sex.

  • Risky sex? Several general behaviour surveys suggest that sexual activity in Africa is not much different from that in North America and Europe. In fact, places with the highest level of risky sexual behaviour, such as Yaounde in Cameroon, have low and stable rates of HIV infection. "Information…from the general population shows most HIV in sexually less active adults" .


Did medical care spread HIV?

  • Children and injections: Many studies report young children infected with HIV with mothers who are not infected. One study in Kinshasa kept track of the injections given to infants under two. In one study, nearly 40% of HIV+ infants had mothers who tested negative. These children averaged 44 injections in their lifetimes compared with only 23 for uninfected children.

  • Good access to medical care: Countries like Zimbabwe, with the best access to medical care, have the highest rates of HIV transmission. "High rates [of HIV] in South Africa have paralleled aggressive efforts to deliver health care to rural populations".

  • Riskier to be rich: Most STDs are associated with being poor and uneducated. HIV in Africa is associated with urban living, having a good education, and having a higher income. In one hospital in 1984, the rate of HIV in the senior administrators was 9.2%, compared with the average employee rate of 6.4%.


"People often see what they wish to see"
The authors suggest several reasons why evidence has been ignored until now, including the West's preconceptions about African sexuality, the fear that people might lose trust in healthcare, and simple disbelief that medical practices could be so unsafe.

They conclude: "a growing body of evidence points to unsafe injections and other medical exposures to contaminated blood" as an explanation for the majority of the spread of the epidemic. "This finding has major ramifications for current and future HIV control programmes in Africa" .


ends - 20 February 2003

Read the articles (in PDF format):
Mounting anomalies in the epidemiology of HIV in Africa: cry the beloved paradigm
Let it be sexual: how health care transmission of AIDS in Africa was ignored
Heterosexual transmission of HIV in Africa: an empiric estimate


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13 posted on 04/29/2003 3:15:11 PM PDT by Polycarp ("He who denies the existence of God, has some reason for wishing that God did not exist.")
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To: Polycarp
If you believe this garbage, you would believe Baghdad Bob when he said the Iraqis were winning, and you would believe that man never set foot on the moon.

I have first hand knowledge of male dominant and promiscuous African customs and behavior that are so totally inconsistent with this thesis. Tribal chieftains do what they want to whomever they want.

I worry about the future of Africa because of AIDS and I worry that steps to help deal with the problem get hampered by foolish theories like this.
14 posted on 04/29/2003 3:38:39 PM PDT by CanadianBacon
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To: RonF
I was going to say what you did. Thanks for saving me the trouble. ;-)

15 posted on 04/29/2003 4:07:24 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: *Population Control; *UN_List; *Homosexual Agenda
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16 posted on 04/29/2003 4:48:08 PM PDT by Coleus (RU-486 Kills Babies)
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To: Polycarp
**to the near exclusion of primary health care.**

It would seem someone has their thinking backwards here.
17 posted on 04/29/2003 4:58:27 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: CanadianBacon; Servant of the Nine; RAT Patrol; nickcarraway; RonF; LizardQueen; Mack the knife; ...
If you believe this garbage...

With all undue respect, MrBacon, I've actually done medical missionary work in Third World countries, and your "first hand knowledge" must be compared with the facts gathered by those who have been there and gathered the facts themselves.

Africa suffers from 1)female genital mutilation, as well as 2) a very high rate of culturally accepted prostitution and all the other things mentioned by posters in this thread, including 3)preference for "dry sex" (African men, in fact prefer it, because they think its more stimulating. Women actually use things like laundry detergent to remain "dry" for their mates), 4)highly promiscuous heterosexual sex, 5)preference for anal sex due to female genital mutilation.

This all lead, in the years before AIDS, to very high levels of STDs in general.

Thus the men who paid for prostitutes, their prostitutes themselves, their wives, the multiple sex partners, etc (all well documented, culturally accepted behaviors in much of Africa) all went to the local HEALTH CLINIC for a shot in the behind of cheap anti--biotics, which for many years (before antibiotic resisent strains of STDs emerged) cleared up the rampant STDs.

It is also well know that these clinics are chronically underfunded, and that they have reused needles for injections routinely for decades now.

It is also well know that these same clinics, which are chronically underfunded for routine health concerns, are overflowing with population control money, drugs, and devices.

According to Dr. Stephen Karanja, the former Secretary of the Kenyan Medical Association, “Thousands of the Kenyan people will die of malaria whose treatment costs a few cents, in health facilities whose stores are stacked to the roof with millions of dollars worth of pills, IUDs, Norplant, Depo-Provera, most of which are supplied with American money.”(3)

I can tell you from my own experience in medical missionary work in Haiti that this is absolutely and irrefutably true!

So the important point of the article is that, while millions are spent supplying these countries with contraceptive/abortifacient drugs, devices, and paraphernalia, very little is actually spent on health care.

So in effect, the superabundance of contraceptives/abortifacients (along with the well known fact that acceptance of contraceptives/abortifacients increases dangerous sexual behavior), combined with the scarcity of clean needles/sterilization equipment/procedures/medicines/antibiotics, has played a decisive role in causing this AIDS epidemic to explode among women.

There is certainly validity to the authors's point,

"Women and girls account for such a high percentage of HIV/AIDS victims in Africa because they are infected during procedures designed to disable their reproductive systems and prevent them from conceiving or bearing children."

...but the authors over reach in trying to infer that the majority of cases are due to this fact.

However, it is simply irrefutable that

"Up to 70% of HIV infections in Africa, according to a recently published study in the peer-reviewed International Journal of STD and AIDS, occur as a result of substandard health care, primarily HIV transmission through reuse of needles.(4)"

And it is also irrefutable that for every dollar spent on buying sterile needles, multiple dollars are spent on contraceptive/abortifacient drugs, devices, and paraphernalia that would be far better spent on basic health care measures.

This fact alone is the most important issue: Do we in the west engage in Contraceptive Imperialism as solution to Third World Poverty?

18 posted on 04/29/2003 5:13:00 PM PDT by Polycarp ("He who denies the existence of God, has some reason for wishing that God did not exist.")
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To: Polycarp
It gets worse. Google up on the phrase "dry sex".
19 posted on 04/29/2003 5:14:00 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
Uh, no thanks. It was bad enough having to "Google up" on "in utero fetal masturbation" to refute a pro-homo a$$hole earlier today...
20 posted on 04/29/2003 5:17:17 PM PDT by Polycarp ("He who denies the existence of God, has some reason for wishing that God did not exist.")
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To: Polycarp
Dry sex is being touted as a major AIDS force in Africa.
21 posted on 04/29/2003 5:26:18 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Salvation
Of course, we justify the need for our contraceptive imperialism by pointing out the "overpopulation" of the developing countries. The concept of poverty versus overpopulation needs close scrutiny. Poverty can be defined as too many people for the resources available in a geographic region. When we see humans living in poverty, we feel a certain solidarity with them. Our consciences tell us of our duty to help them out of their misery with food, shelter, infrastructure, and the means to develop their economy.

Remember that verbal engineering always precedes social engineering. By calling poverty by a new name, "overpopulation," we remove the burden for their suffering from our conscience. No longer do we feel the need to feed them. We now can say, "It's your fault. If you'd just stop making babies, you wouldn't be living in poverty. Your suffering is your own creation." So instead of corn meal, we ship them condoms. Instead of antibiotics, we send them IUDs. Instead of the blessing infrastructure would bring, we send the curse of infertility.

22 posted on 04/29/2003 5:27:58 PM PDT by Polycarp ("He who denies the existence of God, has some reason for wishing that God did not exist.")
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To: gcruse
Yes, I know. It causes a breakdown in the normal barriers to STDs in general, and AIDS in particular.

Not to be forgotten is the symbiotic effect of STDs in making sex partners prone to HIV transmission.

STDs multiply manyfold the likelihood of contracting HIV from ANY type of sexual behavior because of the multiple lesions/breaks in skin and mucous membrane barriers. Dry sex has a similar effect due to the caustic nature of many of the things used to achieve "dry sex."

23 posted on 04/29/2003 5:31:39 PM PDT by Polycarp ("He who denies the existence of God, has some reason for wishing that God did not exist.")
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To: Polycarp
Women and girls account for such a high percentage of HIV/AIDS victims in Africa because they are infected during procedures designed to disable their reproductive systems and prevent them from conceiving or bearing children.

Or is it matter of false reporting? (To get funding)

24 posted on 04/29/2003 5:35:02 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: A. Pole
see post 18
25 posted on 04/29/2003 5:37:27 PM PDT by Polycarp ("He who denies the existence of God, has some reason for wishing that God did not exist.")
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To: Polycarp
Remember Gomer's character talking to Andy???

"Surpraaahs, Surpraaahhhs, Sur PRAAAAAHhhhhsss"

The UN is incapable of running a clean clinic. And just today, they elected Cuba to the Human Rights High Commission.
26 posted on 04/29/2003 8:07:05 PM PDT by ninenot
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To: CanadianBacon
You probably want to read post #13 (and be sure to read the author's name/title) before you go all gaga about someone actually suggesting that the UN could possibly be wrong.

The UN has also been wrong about the population explosion, famines, and the war in Rwanda, which the UN ignored.

Why do you think that the UN is right about AIDS in Africa?
27 posted on 04/29/2003 8:13:11 PM PDT by ninenot
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To: Polycarp; mhking
You are being far too kind.

The fact of the matter is that the Fords, Rockefellers, and Johnsons simply don't give a rip about black and Asian people. They are racist, as was the mother of all this crap who was also the founderette of Planned Parenthood.

You don't have to draw inferences from delicately-phrased and parsed spin, either. During hearings over the efficacy of DDT and the global ban, a Congressman asked a FordFoundation apparatchik whether the ban would not have a detrimental effect on the people of SE Asia (the malaria would return..) and in reply, the apparatchik said "So what? They're just little brown people."

If the blacks in this country EVER knew how racist and elitist these "liberal" outfits really are, there would be a GREAT DEAL of burning buildings on Foundation Row in NYC.
28 posted on 04/29/2003 8:22:50 PM PDT by ninenot
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To: A. Pole
Or is it matter of false reporting? (To get funding)

NOT an either/or proposition. BOTH is the answer.

29 posted on 04/29/2003 8:24:02 PM PDT by ninenot
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30 posted on 04/29/2003 8:24:45 PM PDT by mhking
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To: RonF
Absolutely, and most of the measures cited do not involve needles or invasive procedures, such as the Pill, condoms, Norplant.

There is a correlation between vaccinations and other injections and HIV/AIDS transmission because of unsterilized needles used.
31 posted on 04/29/2003 8:50:15 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
most of the measures cited do not involve needles or invasive procedures, such as the Pill, condoms, Norplant.

Norplant is not an invasive surgical procedure also involving needles (local anesthetic)?

Your statement is pathetically in error.

Depo provera (an injection) and Norplant (a surgical implantation) are methods of choice in Third World Clinics.

Both involve needles and/or invasive procedures.

--Dr. Kopp

32 posted on 04/30/2003 7:02:20 AM PDT by Polycarp ("He who denies the existence of God, has some reason for wishing that God did not exist.")
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To: ninenot
Based on the UN's performance to date, it's probably a good place to meet to get the gist of the problem...then, what ever the UN concludes as the appropriate action...Do the opposite.

I've been to the UN website. They are in violation of their own charter. Will someone tell them?
33 posted on 04/30/2003 7:08:27 AM PDT by Susannah (Reformed Democrat of the 70's)
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To: Polycarp
And it is also irrefutable that for every dollar spent on buying sterile needles, multiple dollars are spent on contraceptive/abortifacient drugs, devices, and paraphernalia that would be far better spent on basic health care measures.

NO.

If population is to remain at suportable levels, then the birth rates and death rates must remain in balance. If anything, we should be spending more on birth control and less on fighting disease in most parts of the world, including the United States.

So9

34 posted on 04/30/2003 7:33:55 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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To: Susannah
My recommendation, yet to be acted on by Congress, the President, or the Department of State, is that we cut our contribution by 75%, to get the UN's attention.

We can proceed from there.
35 posted on 04/30/2003 7:34:43 AM PDT by ninenot
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To: RAT Patrol
This would parallel the tendency for food-aid programs to result in the total denuding of the landscape local to the distribution points, and a further societal breakdown. A little help, developing a dependency, which in turn causes great damage in side-effects.
36 posted on 04/30/2003 8:01:35 AM PDT by lepton
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To: Polycarp
By calling poverty by a new name, "overpopulation," we remove the burden for their suffering from our conscience. No longer do we feel the need to feed them. We now can say, "It's your fault. If you'd just stop making babies, you wouldn't be living in poverty. Your suffering is your own creation."

Not to mention no longer needing to admit that governmental socialism causes devastation to the poor. It instead now just provides further justification for authoritarinaism.

37 posted on 04/30/2003 8:23:25 AM PDT by lepton
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To: Polycarp
Good post!
38 posted on 04/30/2003 8:24:55 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Servant of the Nine
If anything, we should be spending more on birth control and less on fighting disease in most parts of the world, including the United States.

I suspect increased military spending would be more helpful.

And as for your general premise, if you believe anything from the U.N., their latest figures point to a world-wide population collapse.

39 posted on 04/30/2003 8:29:01 AM PDT by lepton
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To: Servant of the Nine
Damn!!!

You've figured out what "supportable levels" are?

Get thee to the UN. They have a job for you!!
40 posted on 04/30/2003 9:22:52 AM PDT by ninenot
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To: Polycarp
You're right some are surgically implanted, but many hormonal contraceptives are topical patches these days.

The point is, there are many other "invasive" procedures which involve tainted needles which can, and evidence is mounting that they do, transmit AIDS, such as vaccinations.

I agree with the author that disproportionately to much is spent on contraceptives vs basic health care methods and materials. However, he is stretching credibility to claim that contraceptives themselves are a primary vector for AIDS transmission.
41 posted on 04/30/2003 10:53:49 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Servant of the Nine
we should be spending more on birth control and less on fighting disease in most parts of the world, including the United States

You're one sick little puppy. At least your screen name is apt.

42 posted on 04/30/2003 11:18:17 AM PDT by Polycarp ("He who denies the existence of God, has some reason for wishing that God did not exist.")
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To: Lorianne
However, he is stretching credibility to claim that contraceptives themselves are a primary vector for AIDS transmission.

I agree, as I pointed out in my post # 18, "...but the authors over reach in trying to infer that the majority of cases are due to this fact."

43 posted on 04/30/2003 11:22:09 AM PDT by Polycarp ("He who denies the existence of God, has some reason for wishing that God did not exist.")
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To: Polycarp; lentulusgracchus; John O; Clint N. Suhks; scripter
http://www.rsm.ac.uk/new/pr135.htm

Since the beginning of the AIDS epidemic, experts have assumed that anal sex was virtually non-existent in Sub-Saharan Africa. In the July International Journal of STD and AIDS, medical psychologist Dr Stuart Brody and epidemiologist Mr John Potterat describe "compelling evidence" to challenge this view ...

Currently, anti-AIDS education in Africa focuses on 'heterosexual transmission', usually taken to mean vaginal sex. According to Brody and Potterat, the fact that health warnings have avoided mentioning anal sex - despite its "substantially greater" risk of HIV transmission - may have contributed to the AIDS epidemic. Their research suggests that both men and women in Africa have receptive anal intercourse, often believing it to be 'safe' since it is not featured in public health education programmes ...

Rectal diseases similar to those found in American homosexual men have been reported in some studies of African men.

Receptive anal intercourse was reported by 98.7% of street boys in Tanzania, who said they weren't at risk from AIDS, because they thought you could only get it if you had sex with a woman.

The authors conclude that although unsafe medical practices probably caused most of the spread of HIV in Africa (see the March issue of International Journal of STD and AIDS), anal intercourse accounts for perhaps the majority of the remainder. Brody warns: "No one is warned about the dangers of anal intercourse, and people are dying as a result."

http://www.roysocmed.ac.uk/new/pr126.htm

Since the 1980s most experts have assumed that heterosexual sex transmitted 90% of HIV in Africa. In the March International Journal of STD and AIDS, an international team of HIV specialists presents groundbreaking evidence to challenge this consensus, with "profound implications" for public health in Africa.

In a series of articles, Dr David Gisselquist, Mr John Potterat and colleagues argue that the spread of HIV infections in Africa is closely linked to medical care. In their unique study of existing data from across the continent they estimate that only about a third of HIV infections are sexually transmitted. Their evidence suggests that "health care exposures caused more HIV than sexual transmission", with contaminated medical injections being the biggest risk.

Sexual behaviour

HIV and STDs: According to the authors' data, African HIV did not follow the pattern of sexually transmitted disease (STD). In Zimbabwe in the 1990s HIV increased by 12% a year, while overall STDs declined by 25% and condom use actually increased among high-risk groups.

Infection rate: HIV spread very fast in many countries in Africa. For the increase to have been all via heterosexual sex, the study claims, it would have to be as easy to get HIV from sex as from a blood transfusion. In fact, HIV is much more difficult than most STDs to transmit via penile-vaginal sex.

Risky sex? Several general behaviour surveys suggest that sexual activity in Africa is not much different from that in North America and Europe. In fact, places with the highest level of risky sexual behaviour, such as Yaounde in Cameroon, have low and stable rates of HIV infection. "Information ... from the general population shows most HIV in sexually less active adults."

Did medical care spread HIV?

Children and injections: Many studies report young children infected with HIV with mothers who are not infected. One study in Kinshasa kept track of the injections given to infants under two. In one study, nearly 40% of HIV+ infants had mothers who tested negative. These children averaged 44 injections in their lifetimes compared with only 23 for uninfected children.

Good access to medical care: Countries like Zimbabwe, with the best access to medical care, have the highest rates of HIV transmission. "High rates [of HIV] in South Africa have paralleled aggressive efforts to deliver health care to rural populations".

Riskier to be rich: Most STDs are associated with being poor and uneducated. HIV in Africa is associated with urban living, having a good education, and having a higher income. In one hospital in 1984, the rate of HIV in the senior administrators was 9.2%, compared with the average employee rate of 6.4%.

"People often see what they wish to see"

The authors suggest several reasons why evidence has been ignored until now, including the West's preconceptions about African sexuality, the fear that people might lose trust in healthcare, and simple disbelief that medical practices could be so unsafe.

They conclude: "a growing body of evidence points to unsafe injections and other medical exposures to contaminated blood" as an explanation for the majority of the spread of the epidemic. "This finding has major ramifications for current and future HIV control programmes in Africa."

44 posted on 08/18/2003 12:39:54 PM PDT by Bryan
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