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To: Centurion2000; MissAmericanPie; glory
I don't think anyone is saying there are NO good American women left. Indeed, many of the women I've dated I would consider to be good PEOPLE. Good wives? That's another story and that's the problem. As for glory's point about us blaming women, well, problem is, a good guy like me can't sit there worrying about the potential good ones that MIGHT be out there. Frankly, I've tried. I'm 27 and I despair for my future as regards marriage and I have NOT had terrible experiences. Imagine the poor guys that have!

You know what men want? LOYALTY. FIDELITY. Not just sexual fidelity, as some men may be freaky anyway lol, but to know that the woman will treat love as a choice and a COMMITMENT, not just an ephemeral impulse. Hell, that happened in my last relationship. Girl was talking about how she loved me and how she felt so vulnerable and admonished me not to take advantage of it and LITERALLY days later her feeling had changd on the basis of a DREAM!

Now young women of all ages are not the most stable emotionally, but I find that a man OF HONOR merely wants a woman of HONOR. I'm a good looking guy, I shouldn't have to settle for plain jane just because I'm not super rich.

And here's the super-kicker: Even if I were wealthy I'd still have serious reservations about marrying American because that is WHY they are into you. So when the time comes or you drop out of the rat race, guess who will be packing their bags?

This is not to say that there aren't men who've dishonored their name and forsaken their families. But there is CLEARLY a growing dissatisfaction with American women among the men here. From having to raise some OTHER man's kids to dealing with a woman who's been used more than a hobo's handkerchief to a woman raised as a princess and who feels entitled to the world because she has a vagina---it ain't easy.

So, your wifely jobs are being outsourced, and yes there is a risk that Americanization will overpower the woman's good training and there ARE bad apples out there just looking to come to AMerica, but you'd be surprised--many are not. And you know what?

WHO CARES IF THEY WERE?! Hell, wave a wad of bills in front of most girls face(or a more subtle equivalent) and they're all over you. I'd rather have a wife who wanted a better life but has some loyalty than a sexual merc who hires her vagina out to the highest bidder.
190 posted on 05/05/2004 6:29:00 AM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Skywalk
As long as you don't care that the woman you are bringing over has zip as far as any deep love for you goes, and may vote her liberal instincts, adding to the female voter problem we already face, then go for it.

I have seen very few work out. At my son's birthday party at a skating rink, this stranger a booth away in the snack bar moved to my table and spent a couple of boring hours crying over his mail order brides Americanization, she dumped him after he got her entire family over here. Now she won't let him see his kid.

I guess the lure of having a female totally dependent on you and the hope for future loyalty is pretty potent. They learn to speak english, train for jobs, have affairs, and leave when they are ready. I don't know what the stats are, but I feel pretty sure most guys end up just being a way station to a new life.
200 posted on 05/05/2004 7:56:34 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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