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Couple Says NY Stole Their Balloon
www.countypressonline.com ^ | 04/30/2003 | Bill Lawrence

Posted on 04/30/2003 7:20:51 PM PDT by Tribune7

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To: abner
Sounds like New York can compensate by paying for a few appearances, like 10 or 15 of them, at full price...whatever that may be with inflation...
21 posted on 04/30/2003 8:13:24 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: abner
Make one in the shape of the Empire State Building amd watch them howl.
22 posted on 04/30/2003 8:13:41 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: eddie willers; LurkerNoMore!
Make one in the shape of the Empire State Building amd watch them howl.

They would just steal it.

23 posted on 04/30/2003 8:15:22 PM PDT by abner
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To: Tribune7
To lazy to post the article????

Couple Says NY Stole Their Balloon

By Bill Lawrence 04/30/2003

The couple who own the landmark U.S. Flag Balloon- America One don't love New York as much. The government there anyway. Our neighbor to the north has robbed them, they say.

"It's the first time a state has hijacked an aircraft," said Barry DiLibero.

Barry and his wife, Teri, of Chester County, do business under the name of The US Flag Balloon (www.usflagballoon.com.) This business includes being hired by fairs and other public events to display a 78-by-53-foot hot-air balloon in the shape of Old Glory.

It was most recently seen at the Rally for America, March 16, in Valley Forge albeit that one was a freebie to support our troops according to the DiLiberos.

The balloon was acquired in April 2002 and was custom designed. It is the only American flag balloon.

"It is the largest flying flag in the world," says Barry. He noted that the only other one is the flag of Belgium and it is significantly smaller. Nobody really knows what the Belgian flag looks like anyway, Barry notes.

Barry, who owns several businesses including a title and tag company, and Teri who owns a small sign company says the flag isn't his livelihood, although it was a substantial personal investment including the trucks and paraphernalia.

"Every time I look at (the balloon) I see a new house," says Teri.

The motivation for the DiLiberos is mostly patriotism. They often hand out pocket Constitutions. The DiLibero balloon was a notable attraction at Spiedie Fest last August, in Binghamton, N.Y. It was a typical late summer New York weekend. The sky was blue. The clouds were few. The smell of spiedies -- the regional sandwich in whose honor the event was held -- filled the nose. The DiLiberos flew their balloon, mingled with the spectators, answered questions and handed out pocket Constitutions, then went home.

At the Rally for America, a police officer remarked she had seen the balloon in Yankee Magazine. Barry was pleased.

"I thought that it was an article about Spiedie Fest," Barry said.

Then he saw the May edition of Better Homes & Gardens. It included a full-page ad for the "I Love New York" campaign with them taking off in the foreground.

"We were the feature of the entire photograph," Barry said.

"It is the cover of a one-six page color insert booklet for I Love NY," says Teri.

He learned the same ad appeared in the April edition of Reader's Digest and many other magazines. The DiLiberos never gave permission that their balloon be used for commercial purposes. This poses a problem.,p> "New York has attached themselves to us. We've had people tell us we are the New York flag balloon. Wherever we go we represent New York whether we want to or not," Barry says. He fears that event organizers may start charging -- a customary practice in dealing with those seeking to promote corporate entities -- rather than paying them to appear.

"It puts our ability to pay for the whole project in serious jeopardy," says Teri. Barry also points out that they can now no longer sell exclusive use to a potential paying advertising customer.

Alex Dudley, spokesman for the Empire State Development Corp., the state agency that oversees the "I Love New York" campaign, says the state has the legal right to use the image. "They brought the balloon to a public ballooning event in Binghamton, N.Y. where it was photographed," said Dudley.

He said the ad campaign has run its course and that New York did the DiLiberos a favor anyway. "The I Love New York program is one of the 10 most recognizable brands in the world," Dudley said. "The exposure the balloon received will benefit them tremendously."

Teri disagrees.

"It gives us no exposure," she said. "They didn't even put our web site on the page. Most people's reaction is, 'When did NY buy a flag balloon?'"

Barry points out that New York used their image for commercial purposes without permission or compensation.

"If we don't stand up to them, they're going to do it to someone else," he said. Legal action looms.

"We would love to settle this without a fight," Teri said. "But, they have stopped answering our inquiries."

She also wants to make clear they have no problem with the good people of the Empire State, where they will be making several appearances.

"Our problem is not the people of New York, but the state's governmental agency that just thinks it's OK to steal someone's property for their fiscal gain," she said.

©CountyPressOnline.com 2003

24 posted on 04/30/2003 8:16:06 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: kayak
Hey Kayak! How are you and hubby doing???
25 posted on 04/30/2003 8:19:20 PM PDT by abner
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To: abner
Take them to court, and to the court of public opinion, which you are doing. No one likes being ripped off. There was a judge in calif whos house burned down and the red cross would not help them, however the red cross used their pictures of them and their house as tools to get donations. They ended up with a settlement. Sounds to me that you have a good case. ( The judge was from San Diego)
26 posted on 04/30/2003 8:20:07 PM PDT by teancumspirit
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To: dalereed
"Every time I look at (the balloon) I see a new house," says Teri.

That one made me laugh...
Couldn't help myself. :-)

27 posted on 04/30/2003 8:20:23 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: dalereed
To lazy to post the article????

Not particulary, but it is a conservative paper, they needs the hits and I like to show the the same consideration as we do the libs at the Washington Post and L.A. Times.

28 posted on 04/30/2003 8:20:34 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: abner
I think you represented your side of the argument quite well!

Good job!
29 posted on 04/30/2003 8:22:04 PM PDT by Registered (RIP Baghdad Bob)
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To: abner
You should get a royalty for each time the photo appears. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking with it. I really get all itchy and scratchy when someone uses my work product as their own, and tells me they did me a favor.
30 posted on 04/30/2003 8:22:50 PM PDT by NautiNurse (If Lawton Chiles runs for the Senate seat in 2004, we will **really** have Jurassic Park in Florida)
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To: dalereed
County Press has been so kind to get this out in the media for us.

I don't mind clicking...they deserve the hits.


;-)
31 posted on 04/30/2003 8:23:18 PM PDT by abner
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To: abner
New York is wasting my sympathies. Between Hillary, Chuckie, Bloomberg and Pataki, it's getting real tough for me to want to spend money there.
32 posted on 04/30/2003 8:25:35 PM PDT by kristinn (Garofalo is a dish best served room temperature)
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To: eddie willers
"Every time I look at (the balloon) I see a new house," says Teri."

I should clarify that: Some people buy a second home or lots of fast cars. The balloon project is an equivalent expenditure...

33 posted on 04/30/2003 8:25:47 PM PDT by abner
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To: Registered
Thanks Reg.
34 posted on 04/30/2003 8:26:22 PM PDT by abner
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To: Tribune7

I've read about this flag balloon here. Here is a picture of it. A copyrighted picture. Owned by Aapex Sunrides by the way. I hope they don't mind I posted it.

If someone is using images of the flag balloon for commercial purposes the balloon owners should be paid for the use of their property. I presume that someone is flying the balloon. So they are in the images too. I'd guess. Can their images be used for commercial purposes?

The image may be an American flag but the property is a American flag balloon. Could I use the term "I Love New York"? The term with the heart in it? Maybe make a balloon with that on it? I don't think so. It's a registered mark.

Pay the balloon folks. It's the right thing to do.

35 posted on 04/30/2003 8:27:22 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Now, let's go to the screen writer.....)
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To: NautiNurse
uses my work product as their own, and tells me they did me a favor.

Exactly.

36 posted on 04/30/2003 8:27:40 PM PDT by abner
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To: abner
Good grief Abner. I can't believe that they did that, I mean, actually I can, but honestly, the nerve....

Do you have any recourse?

37 posted on 04/30/2003 8:29:47 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: isthisnickcool
I don't mind you posting the pic. You aren't selling anything with my image. Something like a state! If you wish to take a pic off of the website that is fine, just don't claim it as your own and sell anything.

Thanks for the nice synopsis and visual.

38 posted on 04/30/2003 8:31:36 PM PDT by abner
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To: JEC
It also sounds as if they (NY) knows that they are guilty of some wrongdoing.
39 posted on 04/30/2003 8:31:42 PM PDT by dixie sass (GOD bless America)
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To: abner
Oh, if you look real close at the photo -- well, maybe if you had the FBI digital imaging lab -- you'll see your's truly (cowboy hat) and Temple Owl. :-)
40 posted on 04/30/2003 8:32:29 PM PDT by Tribune7
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