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Posted on 04/30/2003 8:28:17 PM PDT by TomAdkinsCC


Of Lessons Learned in Sweet Fall Evenings-

by Tom Adkins

It was a beautiful fall evening in 1975, my freshman year at West Chester University. Friday night's frat party blowout was complete with idiotic antics, lawn retching and drunken girls. Lots of drunken girls. Nevertheless, I was bored. I'd just stepped off the porch, when a girl from my history class ran up to me in tears. "Tom, you HAVE to help…Jane is upstairs, WAY too drunk…with four guys."

My choice was stark: obey the unwritten rule that guys don't interfere with "guy business." Or, rescue a very nice young lady about to fall into deep trouble. I never hesitated. I went back in, kicked the door open, and demanded my "best friend's girlfriend" leave with me now or I'd start kicking some ass. I lied. I bluffed. But it worked. The next day, I discovered I lost "respect" among my "friends."

I have no regrets.

Today, after spending $70 billion and over 100 American lives, George W. Bush is facing barbs from the domestic left and our "friends" across the globe. Unilateralism! Immorality! Illegitimacy! Cowboys! And of course, the most vulnerable criticism of all: what happens if we don't find those weapons of mass destruction? You remember…the reason we went in to Iraq in the first place?

My answer is simple: I don't give damn. Not because George Bush is a Republican. Not because I love war. But because it was the right thing to do.

Now that we liberated the cradle of civilization, we've discovered the horrific depth of Saddam Hussein's sick tyranny. Wanton murder of innocents. Sadistic torture for fun. Institutionalized rape for sport. Human shredding machines. Children …children…tortured and jailed for years, to coerce parents. Every Iraqi citizen faced every form of gruesome torture that could be devised by evil minds. Now, they are free. Who can doubt that Iraq's impending transition difficulties are preferable to the awful status quo? To be clear, even without terrible weapons, someone should have done this long ago.

Let's examine that weapons issue. We know Hussein has them, or had them. He liked using them. And he wanted more. If we can't find them, where are they? Evidence points to Syria, who also harbors Iraqi fugitives. But soon, like other terrorist nations, Bashir Assad will bend or be broken. That leads to another quiet stroke of Bush wisdom.

Why Iraq first? Because terrorist hotbeds Syria, Iran, and the West Bank are now geographically divided. There's a new sheriff in town, bringing the rule of law, freedom, human rights, and democracy, the most feared weapons of mass destruction to the remaining tyrannical and theocratic states. Bush's vision of clear goals using precise power with minimal civilian casualties verified the brilliant Sun Tzu paradox that extreme violence tempered with benevolence creates the perfect victory. Korea, Vietnam and Somalia memories are exorcised. Iraq is free.

But the WMD inquisition begets a far deeper issue: does the United States have the right to attack other nations simply for regime change? Under what circumstances? And is pre-emption acceptable doctrine?

Now that oceans don't protect us, pre-emption and regime change have become American security requirements. But let's make the case for pre-emption and regime change for humanity's sake. First, tyrannical regimes consider American freedom their greatest enemy. Therefore, they are dangerous to our security. Second, Americans claim all men are born with inalienable rights. Everyone. Therefore, shouldn't we fight for those who have rights torn away? True, some societies like France and Sweden merrily surrender to the collective. But there is a clear case that for most, servitude is involuntary. As the most powerful and free nation on Earth, do we not have a moral imperative to rescue them?

Some of our "friends" disagree. Particularly those who broke the useless UN trade sanctions with Iraq, such as France, Germany and Russia, and those who engaged in the same practices, such as China. Now they angle for colonialist spoils. As for domestic objections? Except for the truly naïve, they are politically driven. All objectors cast aside even minimal moral standards to maintain Hussein's stranglehold for cynical self-interest. There can be no greater shame.

Therefore, I say to anyone who demands any pop-legitimization of this war: "Who's next?" With or without weapons of mass destruction, with or without United nation's blessing, this war was just. Cowboys? Maybe. But cowboys always save the girl from the railroad tracks.

Or frat party rapes.

Or rescue the world from hideous tyranny.

For that, I don't need to find a big bomb in a bunker.

TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; children; china; cowboy; destruction; france; french; german; germany; iraq; liberal; mass; regime; russia; saddam; shredding; terrorism; terrorist; torture; war; weapons
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1 posted on 04/30/2003 8:28:18 PM PDT by TomAdkinsCC
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To: TomAdkinsCC
According to the axis of weasels we do. If there is one thing I hope our government does, it is to appease and make the weasels happy. NOT!
2 posted on 04/30/2003 8:32:11 PM PDT by Russell Scott (Don't blame me for being Islamophobic, I was born that way.)
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To: TomAdkinsCC
IMHO, we have no obligation to save such people from themselves. If they want to live in tyranny, that's their business.

Furthermore, if no WMD are found it's irrelevant.

The fact is, Saddam Hussein was obligated to cooperate with inspectors and he didn't. That alone was justification for going to war because he very well may have been hiding a WMD program and that we could not permit.

3 posted on 04/30/2003 8:39:16 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Russell Scott
Isn't it better to take their ammo from them and let them in on the search? then when THEY'RE the ones who find them THEY'RE gonna be the ones who look stupid. I for one would be VERY HAPPY to see that!
4 posted on 04/30/2003 8:40:03 PM PDT by Leftymasher
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To: TomAdkinsCC
Yes, we have to find them. I expect that we are going to need to conduct similar operations to get rid of other bad guys. It is important that the president was up front in the reason for going in if he is to get broad based support the next time. If we have to go to Damascas because 11 terrorist organizations are headquartered there, and our president has a track record of telling the truth, he will be supported. Let the RATS pull Gulf of Tonkin crap. We are better than that.
5 posted on 04/30/2003 8:45:09 PM PDT by doug from upland (my dogs ran from the room when they heard Hillary shrieking on the radio)
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To: TomAdkinsCC
Great article! Nicely written.

I may need another definition though as to what are WMD; well, at least in the sense concerning Iraq. I have seen numerous posts here at FR about findings of weapons and materials that Iraq was banned from having. So, according to the Iraqi Sanctions and Resolutions, we already supported the invasion. Because, if you want to split hairs, chemical weapons aren't WMD, they are "Area denial," and terror weapons that don’t destroy anything. And Chem weapons have been grouped with WMD via our educating media. So were we looking for nuclear weapons specifically? Or weaponary that was banned to Iraq?
7 posted on 04/30/2003 8:56:58 PM PDT by Calpernia (
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To: doug from upland
The reason it is important to find WMDs - we need to validate the credibilty of the USA intelligence agencies for the future, mostly with the US public.

But in my mind this war has been justified by the numerous links that have already been established with Al Qaeda and 9/11.

Does anyone remember 9/11?
8 posted on 04/30/2003 8:58:11 PM PDT by DougF
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To: TomAdkinsCC
It might help Colin Powell's credibility rating if we do find WMD. Just a thought.
9 posted on 04/30/2003 8:59:28 PM PDT by clockwork
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To: keeponrollin
Third world scapegoat that couldn't hurt a flea? hmmm, tell that to these people:

BTW, there are still flags where I live.

11 posted on 04/30/2003 9:06:56 PM PDT by Calpernia (
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To: keeponrollin
There are no American flags on the cars anymore?

I don't know what planet you are on, but I see more flags than ever and more bumper stickers shouting out American pride. I'm talking about Southern California and Arizona.

12 posted on 04/30/2003 9:08:20 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: LibWhacker
"The fact is, Saddam Hussein was obligated to cooperate with inspectors and he didn't. That alone was justification for going to war because he very well may have been hiding a WMD program and that we could not permit."

Exactly right. It is a trap the pro-tyranny crowd would like everyone to fall for, but don't
13 posted on 04/30/2003 9:08:58 PM PDT by TheDon ( It is as difficult to provoke the United States as it is to survive its eventual and tardy response)
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To: DougF
I have faith that we'll still find that there are WMD's, but realistically there hasn't been rock solid proof of Iraq connections to Al Queda. They're probably there, but there's more police work to be done. I just don't get why we wont let the UN in - they already know how to do the work, we've got the intelligence and we can watch them to guarantee their's no funny business. It works out for everyone.
14 posted on 04/30/2003 9:10:31 PM PDT by Leftymasher
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To: TomAdkinsCC
We don't have to find them for one simple reason: now that we have control of the country our detractors will say they were planted after the fact. If we could have found them earlier it would have been great, but at this point they're going to claim they're fake and stick to their talking points so it really doesn't matter.
15 posted on 04/30/2003 9:11:17 PM PDT by discostu (A cow don't make ham)
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To: keeponrollin
"The attack and destruction of Iraq was predicated on the the removal of weapons of mass destruction. "

Incorrect. You are new around here aren't you? DU maybe?
16 posted on 04/30/2003 9:12:04 PM PDT by TheDon ( It is as difficult to provoke the United States as it is to survive its eventual and tardy response)
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To: DougF
But in my mind this war has been justified by the numerous links that have already been established with Al Qaeda and 9/11. +++

Accually here are same allergations like about the existance of WMD in Iraq.
No proffs of both.
17 posted on 04/30/2003 9:12:10 PM PDT by RusIvan
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To: aleksandra84
That's pure leftwing BS. Iraq signed a cease-fire agreement with us in 1991 to comply with all UN resolutions. It did not so we started shooting again. If you make an agreement with us, you'd better keep it.
18 posted on 04/30/2003 9:12:22 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: TomAdkinsCC
All righty Mugabe next??
19 posted on 04/30/2003 9:14:36 PM PDT by hove
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To: doug from upland
Actually, we went after Saddam and Co. because they wouldn't comply with the UN inspection process. President Bush said it so many times pundits were complaining he was getting repetitious. It was, and is, the Europeans and the left in this country who tried to confuse the issue.
20 posted on 04/30/2003 9:15:05 PM PDT by TheDon ( It is as difficult to provoke the United States as it is to survive its eventual and tardy response)
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To: TheDon
That's like saying we had to destroy the UN to save it. UN resolutions are bull-shit that's why that reasoning pissed me off, cuz we're all kissing their *ss when we don't need to and it made us sound like hypocrites. I say stick with the WMD's invite the UN to inspect and then they can't say we planted them and they'll see Sadaam's handiwork to boot.
21 posted on 04/30/2003 9:20:54 PM PDT by Leftymasher
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To: TomAdkinsCC
How many more WMD's do we need to find?
23 posted on 04/30/2003 9:22:31 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: DougF
In my mind it has also been justified. The main reason we used, however, is WMDs. Yes, our intelligence agencies have to show that they have earned their pay.
24 posted on 04/30/2003 9:26:16 PM PDT by doug from upland (my dogs ran from the room when they heard Hillary shrieking on the radio)
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To: keeponrollin; doug from upland
DFU: Yes, we have to find them.

KOR: The attack and destruction of Iraq was predicated on the the removal of weapons of mass destruction.

Actually, the attack was predicated on Saddam's FAILURE TO ACCOUNT for his WMD's. Based on their most recent confirmed presence by UN inspectors and Iraqi reports, SOMETHING had to have been done with them. Saddam simply stating they were destroyed without providing supporting evidence just didn't cut it.

Virtually every country (ally or not) acknowledged their belief (both substantiated and presumed) that he possessed them. It was only the METHOD of finding them or (more accurately) determining what happened to them that was being argued. Failing to get a satisfactory response from Iraq left us (and actually, the world) with no choice than to assume they still existed. Just look at fears of bio-chem attack that were rampant as conflict begin -- even from France who was ready to provide equipment.

It is therefore important to NOT let DEMS, ANTI-BUSH Nazis, or the MEDIA (often all the same) redefine the original intent to what they can later claim to be failure.

Even if we find documents that prove all the WMD's were destroyed, the mission was a success since regime change was necessary to obtain the information that Saddam refused to be forthcoming with.

Saddam has "cried wolf" over and over since the First Gulf War claiming to not have weapons that were later discovered and destroyed. It is no wonder then(except to US- and Bush-bashers) that NOBODY believed him this time.

Nothing grieves me as a lover of sovereignty more than the failure so far to legitimize our effort.

The trail of evidence of Saddam's WMD's WILL be found - it's only their disposition that remains in question.
PS: the UN couldnt find them in 6 months even when "helped" by the Iraqi's. ;-)
I suspect we can legitimately take a little longer than 4 weeks to do the job.

25 posted on 04/30/2003 9:26:48 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here)
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To: TomAdkinsCC

Over 60% of Iraqis are under the age of 20

U.S. Marine Corps Maj. Chris Hughes shares some time with an Iraqi girl while U.S. Marines distribute food and water to Iraqi citizens.

A local Iraqi girl shows her enthusiasm for the US being in Iraq with a homemade sign.

U.S. Army Lt. Col. Tracy Wright of the 308th Civil Affairs Brigade speaks to a civil engineer in Ramatha, Iraq, on April 9, 2003. Lt. Col. Wright is gathering information that will help aide the Iraqi people improve its water efficiency and distribution. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineer and various Civil Affairs units are deployed in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. (U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Kyran V. Adams)

Iraqis share a laugh with a U.S. Army Specialist Michael Toro during an effort to distribute food and water to Iraqi citizens in need. (U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 1st Class Arlo K. Abrahamson)

Iraqi children, one holding a white flag, smile at passing by journalists on the main highway leading to Baghdad from the western border with Jordan, in the outskirts of Baghdad on Friday April 11, 2003.

Spc. Donald Dennis from Task Force 2-69 Armor, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division from Fort Benning Georgia, waves at children running beside his M1A1 Abrams tank in Baghdad on Friday, April 11, 2003.

United States Marines Lance Cpl. Josh Carbajal takes a sip of some tea offered to him by Iraqi civilians while setting up a defensive perimeter during a patrol of a neighborhood in Baghdad Friday, April 11, 2003.

An Iraqi boy offers some water to a United States Marine of Kilo Company, 3rd Battalion, 7th Marines, while he was out on patrol Friday, April 11, 2003 in a neighborhood near central Baghdad.

United States Marines of Kilo Company, 3rd Battalion, 7th Marines sign their autographs for some Iraqi children who approached them while on patrol through a neighborhood of Baghdad Friday, April 11, 2003.

Tank Commander Staff Sgt. Terry Brake from Somerset, KY., listens patiently as college student Sama Samira, 21, says that U.S. troops have hurt Iraq by invading it and creating chaos in the streets. She said she supported Saddam Hussein and refused to accept that his government had been toppled.

Sgt. Javier Vila, from Miami, FLa., right, and fellow soldiers cry as they pay their respects at a memorial service for Cpl. Henry Brown in Baghdad Friday, April 11, 2003.

Gen. Tommy Franks talks with Sgt. Lucas Goddard and Sgt. James Ward of the 327th Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division, before giving them Bronze Stars for valor in combat. U.S. Army photo by Pfc. Joshua Hutcheson

Iraqis cheer the arrival of U.S. Army forces to their neighborhood in Baghdad, Iraq Wednesday, April 9, 2003.

Iraqi boys in a village near the city of Najaf in Central Iraq appear glad to be back in school April 4, for the first time since the war started. U.S. Army soldiers from the 422nd Civil Affairs Battalion helped clean up the school that was damaged by artillery fire. The soldiers also took money out of their own pockets to pay the teacher several months salary in advance. U.S. Army photo by Staff Sgt. Kevin P. Bell

A soldier from the 422nd Civil Affairs Battalion speaks with a boy while bags of rice and wheat are delivered to a village near the city of Najaf in central Iraq on April 4. U.S. Army photo by Staff Sgt. Kevin P. Bell

An Iraqi girl attends to her lessons April 4 in a village school near the city of Najaf. U.S. Army photo by Staff Sgt. Kevin P. Bell

An Iraqi boy offers a flower to a British solider during patrols in Basra, April 8, 2003. Photo by Mark Richards, Pool/Reuters

Young girls hold hands as they walk with their father down a street on the outskirts of the town of Al Hillah south of Baghdad, April 9, 2003.

A smiling Iraqi woman holds her baby as a column of U.S. vehicles from the 2nd Battalion, 70 Armor passes through the town of Kerbala south west of Baghdad, April 7, 2003.

A member of 21 Squadron in Britain's 3 Regular Army Air Corps, 16 Air Assault Brigade, walks beside an Iraqi boy near the city of Basra in southern Iraq, April 7, 2003.

Iraqi women and children dance with joy as they see soldiers from Britain's 1st Battalion The Parachute Regiment enter their village, north of the city of Basra in southern Iraq, April 7, 2003

British Soldiers from 16 Air Assault Brigade throw chocolate bars from their ration packs to Iraqi children, in the village of Qaryat Nasr north of of the city of Basra, in southern Iraq, April 7, 2003.

Baby W!

Regimental Combat Team 1 gives medical attention to Iraqi civilians who led the Marines to a weapons cache in Aziz, Iraq

An Iraqi boy flashes a victory sign as he walks with U.S. soldiers shortly after they entered central Baghdad, April 9, 2003.

U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Greg Shanahan, a civil affairs specialist with the 486th Civil Affairs Company, speaks with Iraqi citizens during a visit to their village. The 486th Civil Affairs Company is deployed to an undisclosed location from Broken Arrow, Okla., in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Quinton T. Burris

A group of Iraqi boys gather in hopes of receiving water from the 205th Quarter Master Company from Hunter Army Airfield, Ga. The 205th is deployed to an undisclosed location in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Quinton T. Burris

Iraqi civilians crowd the streets and cheer as U.S. forces arrive in Najef, Iraq. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Kyran V. Adams

family in An Nasiriyah, Iraq, looks on as Marines with the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit (Special Operations Capable) pass by. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl. Brian L. Wickliffe

A young girl in An Nasiriyah, Iraq, waves to Marines with the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit (Special Operations Capable). U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl. Brian L. Wickliffe

26 posted on 04/30/2003 9:28:49 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: doug from upland
Then respond to my message #7. Maybe I just don't understand.
27 posted on 04/30/2003 9:29:47 PM PDT by Calpernia (
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To: TheDon
We did have the right for 11 years to do what they did because of their firing on planes in the no-fly zone and failure to account for weapons. Still, the main justification is that the weapons they had could be used on us. They could be sold to terrorists who would bring them over here --- that was his delivery system. When our president gives us the reason to go to Syria, I want everyone to believe him because he has a track record of telling the truth. I have confidence we will find them and that our intelligence agencies have provided good intel. The more we find, the better are Dubya's elections chances in '04.
28 posted on 04/30/2003 9:30:45 PM PDT by doug from upland (my dogs ran from the room when they heard Hillary shrieking on the radio)
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To: LibWhacker
If you make an agreement with us, you'd better keep it.

Sorry to disagree...
When "the molester" was in the Oval Office, it depended on what the meaning of make and agreement is.

Now, if we're talking about the Oval Office resident being a Texan I have in mind, well .....

29 posted on 04/30/2003 9:33:26 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here)
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To: Leftymasher
Actually, there have been elicit weapons found. More have been hidden. Some have been transported to Syria, others, may still be on those mystery ships:

We aren't getting all the information. But we have enough in the media. The arms that have been reported are elicit. That alone violates the Resolutions/Sanctions.

So, do we need to redefine, WMD?
30 posted on 04/30/2003 9:35:00 PM PDT by Calpernia (
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To: DougF
Don't misunderstand. I have absolutely no problem with what we did. I am incredibly proud of my country. We are not finished. The more credibility our president has, the easier it will be for him to get the support he needs for the next operation. And, maybe he can take 50 states next time and get a filibuster-proof Senate. Imagine how it will shut up the opposition when they are found. They need to be shut up.
31 posted on 04/30/2003 9:36:57 PM PDT by doug from upland (my dogs ran from the room when they heard Hillary shrieking on the radio)
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To: Calpernia
"You tell Mr. Bush I think he must be a Muslim for what he did for us.... This is God's land. Everyone deserves it. Every Christian, every Jew and every Muslim needs to live in peace -- and eat from God's gifts -- not from Saddam Hussein's hands." Abdul Razak al Naami, a sergeant in the Iraqi army until the Americans arrived,
Knight Ridder, 4-29-03
"Saddam and his birthday were a black cloud over Iraq. We all want peace and freedom. He deprived us of these things."
Moayed al-Duleimi, Associated Press, 4-29-03
"Today is a day of happiness for me, because we got rid of him. He destroyed us. We ask God that he never returns, because we are happy and -- God willing -- things will be better."
Munhal Taleb, Associated Press, 4-29-03

"After the war, we will see our country change for the better, with freedom."
Jamila Jorj, a teacher in Baghdad,Washington Post, 4-29-03

"The resumption of school in Baghdad is the clearest sign of hope for the future that many Iraqis have had in years."
Washington Post, 4-29-03

"We had an open process of discussion among Iraqis that has made me really optimistic about the future. We heard a wide spectrum of views. This (political meeting) is something Iraqis have not been able to do in 45 years."
Feisal Istrabadi, Washington Post, 4-29-03

"Until this year, the birthday of Saddam required joyous, staged public festivals for the leader of the 35-year, iron-fisted regime. We would pretend we were happy, but on the inside we were sad."
Abdul Razak al Naami, Knight Ridder, 4-29-03

"Iraqi people have a double personality. One is me when I am in front of people related to the Baath Party, the secret services, the family of Saddam; I support them. Otherwise they would definitely put me in the jail or execute me. Among friends, people I know I can trust, I tell them what I really feel. Most Iraqis have that double personality."
Shafiq Qadoura, Newsday, 4-29-03

"The soldiers of the 4th Infantry Division received a much-needed and entirely unexpected treat when, after months of waiting, their convoy finally reached Baghdad: the sight of a Toyota filled with eight gleeful Iraqis, all waving and cheering. Then came thousands of other Iraqis, in cars and alongside the road, who hailed the U.S. Army troops as the Humvees passed through the city. The soldiers had missed most of the war after Turkey denied their division passage into northern Iraq from Turkish soil."
Los Angeles Times, 4-29-03

"America is like a new friend. I just met him. I must give him a chance."
Haidar Ali al-Assadi, New York Times, 4-28-03

"Freedom has been inside us all along. But until now we haven't practiced it."
Hamed Hussein, Sun-Sentinel (Fort Lauderdale), 4-28-03

"We are here hopefully to put down the structure or agree on the skeleton of a government. We are here to represent Iraqi women, who have in the past played very little role in Iraqi politics."
Delegate Zainab al-Suwaij at a political meeting in Baghdad, 4-28-03

"The people today after they were liberated from Saddam want security and stability. People want real participation. I am participating in this conference because those who are concerned with Iraqi issues must hear the voice of the people."
Delegate Hussein Sadr at a political meeting in Baghdad, 4-28-03

"Coming home after years abroad, Iraqis hugged and kissed as the gathering began. ‘In Baghdad?’ one delegate asked another in disbelief. ‘Yes, in Baghdad,’ the other replied."
Associated Press, report of political meeting in Baghdad, 4-28-03

"Whenever we had those elections for president, everyone voted for him 100 percent. And today nothing will happen, and this will prove that none of us liked him, not a one."
Hussein al-Khafaji, an Iraqi air force colonel, Associated Press, 4-28-03

"Saddam was a criminal, a dictator, and fascist. I thank the Americans a lot -- we praise them for ending Saddam, with God’s help."
Khalid Rahim Hussein, Christian Science Monitor, 4-28-03

"On one patrol this week, a boy tending his father's small grocery grabbed Air Force Technical Sgt. Keith Westheimer's notebook and wrote a message in broken English, hoping someone with clout would see it: ‘People Iraqi in Mosul need king leader of Mosul. People Iraqi very happy because Americans are here. Thank you. Karim Salah, 17 years old.’"
Newsday, 4-27-03

"It is a happy day for us because we can pray freely. It has been a long time."
Mohamed Ghalib, Associated Press, 4/25/03

"A 30-year-old secretary in Baghdad named Lina Daoud ponders what lies ahead. Her words come out as pastel bubbles: ‘We want a happy future, we want technology, we want freedom, we want everything.'"
Washington Post, 4/25/03

"It’s a sight one old leatherneck said he ‘will never, ever, ever forget’: a man bent and wizened by age, pushing a wheelchair through the streets of a small town in Iraq. In the wheelchair was ‘an extremely bent, aged old woman,’ barely able to keep her balance in the rickety contraption. As Marine Lt. Gen. Earl B. Hailston, commander of U.S. Marine Corps Forces for U. S. Central Command, passed by in his Humvee, the Iraqi couple caught his eye. ‘Both gave a thumbs up, and the old woman started blowing kisses. It’s something that will never leave my mind.'"
Stars and Stripes, 4/25/03

“We are free to do things that were forbidden before.”
Ahmed Rubai, who sells previously banned satellite dishes, Wall Street Journal, 4-24-03

“The long-oppressed Saudi Shiites would have been heartened by their Iraqi counterparts' new-found freedom to practice their religious rituals. This will encourage them to press for their own rights.”
Saudi Arabian human rights activist Abdul Aziz al-Khamis, Agence France Presse, 4-24-03

“It was like a dream. We heard the bombs falling and I thought: 'We will die here.' But God gave me a new life.”
Annis Mohammed Saboowalla, Associated Press, 4-24-03

“’We couldn't talk about all this under Saddam, we couldn't look for our relatives who had disappeared or we would disappear too,’ says one man, sliding his thumb across his throat. “Being a relative of a prisoner meant your women could be raped, your houses destroyed and all your belongings confiscated, so most people kept quiet.’”
An Iraqi man, Financial Times (London), 4-24-03

“With the end of Saddam Hussein's rule, hundreds of thousands of Shi'ites from across Iraq were free to take part in this year's pilgrimage unhindered by the security forces who once outnumbered and arrested them. As they entered the shrine to pray, women kissed its marble walls and great wooden doors. As they exited, men bowed deeply towards the shrine before turning their backs. Shi'ites estimate that hundreds of thousands, some say several million, have reached Karbala.”
The Australian, 4-24-03

“We used to be executed or thrown in jail forever for doing this when Saddam Hussein was in power.”
Alaa al-Sarraf, in a procession, Reuters, 4-23-03

“This week marked the first time in nearly 30 years that Iraq's majority Shi'a Muslims could pray without fear of reprisal or execution by the government, and more than 1 million people flooded the holy city of Karbala to pay homage at the shrines of Hussein and Abbas, two of the most holy places for Shi'ites.”
The Boston Globe, 4-23-03

“This is the first time here for me. It is as if I am waking from a nightmare.”
Mohammed Jabal, in a procession, Reuters, 4-23-03

“We're still awaiting our freedom, but this is the first taste of it.”
Adnan Abdel-Mohsin, Washington Post, 4-23-03

“…crowds seemed to explode with fervor over their newfound freedoms. Long processions from Baghdad and cities in southern Iraq – Samawah, Nasiriyah, Najaf and Basra – paraded through the streets, waving green, black and red banners. Many stopped every few minutes to break into chants, beating their chests or foreheads in a ritual known as lutm.”
Washington Post, 4-23-03

“As in many lower-class parts of Iraq, some residents said U.S. President George W. Bush had the right idea in wanting to rid Iraq of Saddam. For two decades, the lower classes have been impoverished to the point where they felt they had nothing to lose.”
Victoria Times-Colonist (Canada), 4-23-03

“Bush gives us freedom. He is giving us a future.”
Abbas Ibrahim, Victoria Times-Colonist (Canada), 4-23-03

“For decades, we were used to watching ourselves. Now you can think with words. But to talk loudly and to think loudly takes time. Freedom needs practice, and it takes practice to be free.”
Poet Mohammed Thamer, Washington Post, 4-22-03

“For two-and-a-half decades, the religious spectacle unfolding in Iraq was unknown. The country's Shiite majority, brutally repressed by Saddam's Sunni-dominated cabal, was nominally permitted to make the pilgrimage, but given little freedom to do so in practice…. If pilgrims managed to make the journey at all, they did so under a cloud of secrecy and fear. And yet, this amazing story of religious freedom reborn has largely been ignored. Instead, the front pages of newspapers have been dominated by transient stories of looting and unrest.”
The National Post (Canada), 4/22/03

“I cannot believe I am here today openly celebrating. The government used to shoot us when we tried in the past.”
Hamid Muhammad, New York Times, 4/22/03

“I walked all the way from Al Hendia to Karbala. I am so excited I am able to visit Hussein (revered son-in-law of Muhammad) now without fear.”
Mona Ibrahim, New York Times, 4/22/03

“We were prohibited from visiting these shrines for a long time by the Baath Party and their agents. This year we thank God for ridding us of the dictator Saddam Hussein and for letting us visit these shrines.”
Abed Ali Ghilan, Associated Press Television News, 4/22/03

“To the south of Baghdad, thousands of Shiite Muslims converged on two of Iraq's holy cities, exercising religious freedom long denied them under Saddam.”
Associated Press, 4/22/03

“We are happy because we can follow our religion and Saddam Hussein is gone.”
Ziat Haddi, The Gazette (Montreal, Quebec), 4/22/03

“Chanting and singing, hundreds of thousands of Shiite Muslims from across Iraq walked toward the holy city of Karbala on Monday, freely making a pilgrimage that had been banned by Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.”
Knight Ridder/Tribune News Service, 4/22/03

“I say thank you (U.S. President George W.) Bush and thank you (British Prime Minister Tony) Blair. Whatever the reason, if it wasn’t for them, Saddam and his sons would be still around for another hundred years.”
Mohsen Abdul Ali Zubei, Agence France Presse, 4/22/03

“More than 1 million Shiites have been marching to Karbala, eager to reach the shrine in time for today's mass rites. They have marched, as tradition prescribes, because their annual season of mourning has come to an end. And this year, they have marched because they could. This is the first time in decades that Iraq's Shiites have been free to commemorate the death of Imam Hussein, grandson of the prophet Muhammad.”
Orlando Sentinel 4/22/03

"We need a natural life, a democratic life, like in any other country…when I came into Baghdad, I saw the ruins, but I also saw something else: freedom. We can be free."
Asad Quasi, a militia member, Washington Post, 17 April 2003

"Iraq has just emerged from a nightmare that lasted 35 years. The problems that Iraq has suffered under the rule of Saddam's regime cannot be eliminated in one or two days. Iraqis must hold several meetings until they agree on what they deem appropriate for the establishment of an interim government representing all Iraqi factions and capable of preparing a permanent constitution top be submitted to the people through a public referendum before the nature of [the next] government could be agreed. This requires a long time."
Muhammad Bahr-al-Ulum, Egyptian Radio, 16 April 2003

"I am ready to help. Thank you for liberating Iraq and making it stable, I hope we have a very good friendship with the United States."
Iraqi General Mohammed Jarawi to US Colonel Curtis Potts after signing the surrender in western Iraq, Gold Coast Bulletin (Australia), 16 April 2003

"A good leader can bring many things to Iraq. I can see democracy happening in Iraq because they are good people. They may take some time getting used to it, but I can see it happening."
Tahani Hanna, 18 year old Iraqi expatirate, The Standard (St. Catharines) 16 April 2003

"The people of Iraq do not want Islamic rule. For 35 years we have lived with no freedom, and these religious leaders are not offering us freedom."
Taleb, Theater Director in Nasiriyah, London Daily Telegraph, 4-16-03

“It was a great day…I never thought I would have this freedom.”
Lt Sadeq Abdul Mohsen, deserted from Iraqi 63rd Infantry Brigade, Newsweek, 4-21-03

“I can't express my feelings. All I feel is joy. This is the first time I've seen this (Shiite celebrations) for 30 years. Saddam forbade everything. He forced us underground.”
Sami Abbas, a Shia at the holy shrine of Kadhimiy, Washington Post, 4-16-03

"I was afraid when I saw my city again, I would die of happiness…this is the first day of my life."
Ahmed Yassin Hamakarim upon return to Kirkuk, which his family had fled 15-years ago, U.S. News and World Report, 4-21-03

"'Under Saddam, we were not allowed to have beards,' as he fondly rubs a week's growth of stubble on his chin. 'This was just one more rule against the Shiite.'"
Feraz Hasan, Iraqi merchant, Toronto Star, 4-16-03

“As I drove into Basra, an ebullient crowd on a truck was dragging a statue of Saddam Hussein through the streets. When people saw me pull out my camera, they began cheering and whacking Saddam's face. ‘Thank you, Mr. Bush,’ one called out in English, and it was delicious to watch this celebration of newfound freedom."
The Gazette (Montreal, Canada), 4-14-03

“Storming the Al-Salam Presidential Palace, the looters marveled bitterly at Saddam's life of luxury as they passed shards of crystal from chandeliers and shattered mirrors. ‘That's how our pharaoh lived,’ said one man, who would not give his name. ‘Look how he lived when we couldn't even get bread,’ said another."
Washington Post, 4-14-03

“British soldiers relaxed with citizens at a nearby Iraqi home. Sitting Indian-style on Oriental rugs, they ate with local men and women and passed around wallet-sized photos of their English children.”
Scripps Howard News Service, 4-14-03

“Now people throw flowers at the few Warrior armored vehicles still patrolling the streets and men, women and children gathered along roadsides make peace signs and thumbs-up signals at passing soldiers, shouting ‘Hello’ and ‘Thank you’ in English."
Birmingham Post, 4-14-03

“It's all very interesting. The images of the statue are amazing. It's a new era in the Arab world, and we're happy to see that. We hope there will be new democracy in the Arab world… yes, the war was worth it.”
Ahmad, 40, watching events unfold in Kuwait, Agence France Presse, 4-14-03

“(Selma Dakhel) wants her 10-year-old girl, Nadine, to learn something other than to chant ‘I love Saddam’ at school, she said. We ‘want freedom and a government chosen by the people. We will have democracy in our new time.’”
Chicago Tribune, 4-14-03

“A lot of people from here have been taken away and tortured. We are very happy that Saddam is gone. We will cooperate with the British and the Americans.”
Najim Abdullah Ahmed, near Tikrit, The Guardian, 4-14-03

“Oh my God, I feel free to live. I have hoped for this day for so long.”
Hussain Thain, in Canada for two years, The Guardian (Charlottetown), 4-14-03

“I'm happy, Iraq is free and Saddam is gone.”
Ali Al-Hajavi, 17, The Canadian Press, 4-13-03

“Smiling citizens crowded every street around the American positions. There was a constant stream of people willing to give information and loudly condemn Saddam. American soldiers who a day before had been in close combat were now basking in the cheers and applause, their arms tired from returning friendly waves.”
Time, 4-14-03

“There were women and children in the crowds, but only the men did any talking. They would say the word Saddam and spit. Or run up to U.S. soldiers and shout 'George Bush good.'”
Time, 4-14-03

“The American people, particularly the movie stars against us being here, need to see this. These people need us. Look how happy they are.”
Sergeant Reuben Rivera in Iraq, Time, 4-14-03

“The downfall of Saddam Hussein's regime, metaphorically incarnate in the toppling of his statue in Firdos Square in Baghdad, filled me with hope. If the regime were still in power, I would not have had the courage to contribute even these few lines under my name to The New York Times. Although I am a self-exiled Iraqi who has lived in Beirut for the past two decades, I have family and friends in Iraq – and I had every Iraqi's dread that Saddam Hussein's security apparatus could sweep down on them at any moment.”
Hussain Abdul-Hussain, New York Times, 4-11-03

“I now feel very free; I know that I'll be able to sleep now. Saddam Hussein assassinated my brother in 1977 – he was hanged in prison for insulting the president. It was August 5, 1977, and since then my family has been punished by the security services. Saddam's Iraq was a dictatorship of torture, war and terror. So today is the first day I can speak.”
Salim Jaffar, Sydney Morning Herald, 4-11-03

"Over the years, the Baath Party has urged family members to write pro-Saddam slogans such as ‘Yes, Yes, to the leader Saddam Hussein!’ on the walls of their house. The family balked, prompting the local Baath Party officials to paint the slogans themselves. This week, one of the first steps the family took was to scrape the slogans off.”
Los Angeles Times, 4-11-03

“There was no justice under Saddam. He could do with us what he liked. The regime robbed the people."
Akkbal Abdulwahab, a teacher, Financial Times, 4-11-03

“We are still scared but we are happy. Thank God this has happened and the Americans have come. Saddam gave us nothing.
Maysoun Raheem, The Advertiser, 4-11-03

“As long as (Saddam) is gone, who cares if he is dead or in Paris?”
An elderly man in Iraq, The Advertiser, 4-11-03

“Iraqis watched with an amazement they dared not express before Wednesday's tumultuous collapse, as the dictator's aura of power faded to something akin to that of a petty thief on the run. It was as though they had awakened from a long, troubling sleep.”
The Age (Melbourne), 4-11-03

“We don't consider the presence of American soldiers as an occupation. They came to free us from injustice, tyranny and slavery. Under Saddam Hussein, our lives had no value, no sense.”
Diya Abdul Hussein, Agence France Presse, 4-11-03

“If the Americans are restoring our liberty they are welcome, and if they respect our dignity they can stay as long as they choose.”
Agence France Presse, 4-11-03

“We are one again. Finally, we are one. I am 50 years old, but my life just started today.”
Kareem Mohammad Kareem, Associated Press, 4-11-03

“We've been up all night watching TV, but we're not tired. We're too excited to sleep. I wanted them (his daughters) to see this historic day. This is the day of our freedom.”
Ali Il-Sayad of Dearborn, Mich., The Australian, 4-11-03

“This is a moment I was looking for all these years; it's like a dream coming true.”
Ridha Jawad Taki, Orlando Sentinel, 4-10-03

“I'm from Halabja," said Kafya Aziz, watching as a crowd swelled in Governor's Square. “I escaped the chemicals, but my son and husband did not. I'd like to cut Saddam to pieces for all he's taken. I'm happy today. I'm too old, or I'd be dancing.”
Los Angeles Times, 4-10-03

“Firecrackers popped. Women wearing bright dresses and new lipstick walked arm in arm on the sidewalks as children, some sitting in the laps of their cigar-smoking fathers, smiled amid a joy they were too young to comprehend.”
Los Angeles Times, 4-10-03

“I'm so glad for victory. We've suffered much. As you see, I am not normal. I was in Saddam's prison, and then they forced me to fight on the front lines of the Iran-Iraq war. I was shot in the spine and cannot walk. This is the first day of my happiness.”
Taha Hamma Mamrashid, Los Angeles Times, 4-10-03

“We have just been saved. You know what this day means to me? It means never having to be afraid of another chemical attack. It means never having to fear my children's future.”
Halala Osman, Wall Street Journal, 4-10-03

“Now my son can have a chance in life.”
Bushra Abed, Washington Times, 4-10-03

“I saw it with my own eyes. People in Baghdad were dancing in the streets and burning Saddam's pictures and no one was firing at them. That was proof to me that Saddam is over.”
Taher Hassan, Sulaimaniyeh shopkeeper, Wall Street Journal, 4-10-03

“Today is a clear lesson for dictatorships in the Arab world. I think they should start looking for ways to change their people's lives.”
Mohammed al-Jassim, editor of Kuwaiti newspaper al-Watan, Washington Times, 4-10-03

“We discovered that all what the information minister was saying was all lies. Now no one believes Al Jazeera anymore.
Ali Hassan, Associated Press, 4-10-03

“Today, though, Adnan was a happy man, so happy that he could barely restrain his excitement. He was finally freed from a prison in downtown Basra, after British troops entered the city and drove the remaining defenders away. And as he took a small group of American journalists on a tour of the hospital, he enthusiastically led a crowd of fellow ex-prisoners, their families, friends and passersby in the first rendition of a pro-American chant that any of us have so far heard: ‘Nam nam Bush , Sad-Dam No’ (‘Yes, yes, Bush, Saddam No’). They chanted and danced, filling one of their former cells in a spontaneous celebration.”
Newsweek, 4-10-03

“It's like a birthday. We're ready to make a new Iraq.”
Ibrahim Al-Mansori, a 31-year-old butcher from Basra, New York Times, 4-10-03

“We have waited many years for this. Saddam is evil and he has gone. He killed Muslims, his own people and stole our money to buy palaces and cars and guns. He must pay the full price.”
Abal Malam Al Fussah, a student in Basra, The Sun, 4-10-03

“Man, I am very excited, every Iraqi person is very happy. We feel like we are reborn again. No more Saddam regime, no more of the Ba'ath Party. We are very happy, now we have got earth to go back to. We love America and we love Iraq too. This is like heaven for me right now.”
An Iraqi American, Channel NewsAsia, 4-10-03

“People, if you only knew what this man did to Iraq. He killed our youth. He killed millions.”
An elderly man in Baghdad beating Saddam’s portrait with his shoe, Los Angeles Times, 4-10-03

“As night fell, residents throughout Baghdad exuberantly embraced a new sense of freedom after decades lived in fear of an oppressive regime. While U.S. troops and tanks moved throughout the city, the citizens of Baghdad danced in the streets, waving rifles, palm fronds and flags. Shouts of traitor, torturer and dictator rang out in reference to the Iraqi president.”
USA Today, 4-10-03

“It was dangerous, it was impossible, to say, ‘Down with Saddam.’ But we have lived 35 years with the Baath Party. Today I am very free and I can talk. And I say, Thank you, Mr. Bush.”
Los Angeles Times, April 10, 2003

“I haven't seen such exhilarating scenes since the implosion of the Soviet empire in the late 1980s. What we have witnessed is something that the Iraqi people wanted the world to know, and that is they are glad to be rid of the loathsome dictator, Saddam Hussein.”
Australian Prime Minister John Howard, Agence France Presse, 4-10-03

"Now my son can have a chance in life."
Bushra Abed, Washington Times, 4-10-03

"I saw it with my own eyes. People in Baghdad were dancing in the streets and burning Saddam's pictures and no one was firing at them. That was proof to me that Saddam is over."
Taher Hassan, Sulaimaniyeh shopkeeper, Wall Street Journal, 4-10-03

"In the most visible sign of Saddam's evaporating power, the 40-foot statue of the Iraqi president was brought down in the middle of Firdos Square. Cheering Iraqis, some waving the national flag, scaled the statue and danced upon the downed icon, now lying face down. As it fell, some threw shoes and slippers at the statue....'I'm 49, but I never lived a single day,' said Yusuf Abed Kazim, a Baghdad imam who pounded the statue's pedestal with a sledgehammer. 'Only now will I start living. That Saddam Hussein is a murderer and a criminal.'"
Washington Post online, 4-9-03

“It confirms why we're here. This regime, all it does is honor itself. They build these huge lavish living quarters for the select few, but the rest of the country lives dirt-poor.”
Lt. Col. Rock Marcone, USA Today, 4-8-03

“The unit's interpreter, Khuder al-Emiri, is a local hero, a guerrilla leader who was forced to flee… in April 1991 after leading a failed uprising against Saddam Hussein. Word of Mr. Emiri's arrival spread through town by way of children's feet. Their hero was with the Americans and the crowd believed the marines' intentions were good. They began to chant in English. 'Stay! Stay! U.S.A.!'”
New York Times, 4-8-03

“The euphoria nearly spilled over into a riot. Children pulled at the marines, jumped on their trucks, wanting to shake their hands, touch their cheeks. A single chicken hung in the butcher's window and still the residents wanted to give the Americans something, anything. Cigarette? Money?”
New York Times, 4-8-03

“You are owed a favor from the Iraqis. We dedicate our loyalty to the Americans and the British. We are friends."
Iraqi Ibrahim Shouqyk to Marines, New York Times, 4-8-03

“For years we have lived oppressed lives here. Sunday was a day we had prayed for and now we are free of Saddam’s rule.”
Qusay Rawah, a student in Basra, Daily Mirror, 4-8-03

“The whole Iraq will be happy if the news about Saddam’s death is confirmed.”
Hussein Al-Rekabi, Iraqi exile of 30 years now in Kuwait, Arab News, 4-8-03

“For some, it was a day to hand flowers to British soldiers stationed in armored vehicles at a traffic circle or to gawk at British troops patrolling the city on foot beside their armored vehicles. For others, it was a day to vent rage at icons of the former authority.”
Washington Post, 4-8-03

"The reception that we received by the Iraqis have been mainly positive. Many children have come up to me wanting to hold my hand. Many of the British troops have been kissed by the children as they’ve gone by. Now, a few people have motioned to go back or to leave but they’re certainly in the minority."
Travis Fox,, 4-7-03

“The Marines here are still concerned some Iraqi fighters remain. ‘Keep away from the area,’ scream the loud speakers in Arabic. ‘It is for your security. The coalition forces will not hesitate to shoot you.’ But hundreds ignored that, surging forward to greet the Marines with an emotional celebration in this predominantly Shia Muslim town.”
CNN Correspondent Bob Franken, 4-7-03

"The closer the marines got to Baghdad, the warmer their reception. Troops soon encountered cheering crowds, with some people giving the thumbs-up sign. ‘You go to Baghdad, and then I am free,’ an Iraqi man told one soldier."
U.S. News and World Report, 4-14-03

"We shall never forget what the coalition has done for our people. A free Iraq shall be a living monument to our people's friendship with its liberators."
Hojat al-Islam Abdel Majid al-Khoi, Wall Street Journal, 4-7-03

"’Ameericaah?’ a little girl asked a Marine who had entered her village and taken a defensive position as others began to search homes. The streets were deserted. People peered around their gates. The Marine smiled, wiggled his fingers in the girl's direction and her fear – and that of the rest of the townspeople – melted. Within minutes people had left their houses and began to shake hands with the Marines. Liberation from the strictures of the regime of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein had come for a nameless village just a few miles from downtown Baghdad.”
United Press International, 4-7-03

“When some (Iraqi paramilitaries) fled, civilians from the nearby Shia Flats slum poured onto the streets in support of the British attack. Some shouted and cheered, greeting the British soldiers with waves, thumbs up and smiles. Other surrounded and attacked the fleeing Fedayeen Saddam forces.”
Washington Times, 4-7-03

“Believers (should) not to hinder the forces of liberation, and help bring this war against the tyrant to a successful end for the Iraqi people…. Our people need freedom more than air (to breathe). Iraq has suffered, and it deserves better government."
Ayatollah Ali Mohammed Sistani, Wall Street Journal, 4-7-03

“The cool, cement walls were welcome relief from the blistering afternoon heat. The colonel walked across a worn rug and sat at the far end of the room, next to the community patriarch, an old man who stayed mostly silent. The patriarch's eldest son, 63-year-old Said Brahim, served as ambassador. ‘We are so happy to see the Americans forces,’ Mr. Brahim told a Marine translator.”
Detroit News, 4-7-03

“Hundreds of people poured out to welcome and shake hands with the soldiers. Women in chadors hovered in the background, as soldiers talked and joked with civilians and let some boys look through their gunsights. A jubilant crowd of about 100 Iraqis surrounded two British tanks near a Saddam mural and cheered the soldiers inside, giving one soldier a small bunch of yellow flowers.”
Associated Press, 4-7-03

"Ayatollah Ali Mohammed Sistani is...the undisputed A'alam al-ulema (the most learned of the learned) of the mullahs who minister to the religious needs of Shiites, 60 percent of Iraq's population. This week he will resume lectures, banned by the Saddam regime for seven years, at the oldest Shiite seminary.

"....[T]he ayatollah said he had advised 'believers not to hinder the forces of liberation, and help bring this war against the tyrant to a successful end for the Iraqi people....Our people need freedom more than air [to breath]. Iraq has suffered, and it deserves better government.'"
Op-Ed by Amir Taheri, Wall Street Journal, 4-7-03

"As dusk fell yesterday evening, only a small girl dressed in rags could be seen on the streets of Jazirah al-Hari. She approached a [British] tank standing guard at one end of the village, and said: 'My parents will not come, but we need water.' The tank driver leant down and gave her a bottle of water. 'This is why we've come, isn't it?' he said."
The Daily Telegraph (UK), 4-1-03

"U.S. troops [are] getting a very warm welcome from the local Shia population. Now naturally, the Shiites...have no love lost for the Iraqi leader President Saddam Hussein. They have been very repressed by him in the past. And obviously...what they believe to be a continuous presence that they can count on, interest from the U.S. troops is something that they are quite happy to see."
Ryan Chilcote, CNN correspondent, 4-2-03

"Hundreds of Iraqis shouting 'Welcome to Iraq' greeted U.S. Marines who entered the town of Shatra....'There's no problem here. We are happy to see Americans,' one young man shouted. The welcome was a tonic for soldiers who have not always received a warm reception despite the confidence of U.S. and British leaders that the Iraqi people were waiting to be freed from Saddam Hussein's repression. 'It's not every day you get to liberate people,' said one delighted Marine."
The Independent (UK), 4-1-03

"'Saddam has given us nothing, only suffering,' said Khalid Juwad, with his cousin, Raad, nodding in assent. Mr. Juwad said he had four uncles who were in Hussein's jails, and he said he had deserted from the Iraqi Army three times in recent years. 'If the Americans want to get rid of Saddam, that's O.K. with me,' he said. 'The only thing that would bother me is if they don't finish the job. Then Saddam will come back, like he did in 1991.'"
New York Times, 3-31-03

"We've been waiting for you for 10 years. What took you so long?’ said an Iraqi man who, along with more than 500 others, surrendered near the Rumaila oil fields. Many had written such phrases as ‘U.S.A. O.K.’ on their arms or hands. Some even tried to kiss the hands of the nervous young Marines guarding them.”
Newsday, 3-24-03

“Ajami Saadoun Khlis, whose son and brother were executed under the Saddam regime, sobbed like a child on the shoulder of the Guardian’s Egyptian translator. He mopped the tears but they kept coming. ‘You just arrived,’ he said. ‘You're late. What took you so long? God help you become victorious. I want to say hello to Bush, to shake his hand. We came out of the grave.’”
The Guardian, 3-22-03

“As Iraqi Americans reach out to their relatives in Baghdad and Basra, in Kirkuk and Irbil, some are hearing words they never thought possible: Iraqis are speaking ill of Saddam Hussein. They're criticizing him out loud, on the telephone, seemingly undeterred by fear of the Iraqi intelligence service and its tactics of torture for those disloyal to the Baath Party regime. ‘I was shocked,’ said Zainab Al-Suwaij, executive director of the American Islamic Congress, a nonprofit group in Cambridge, Mass., that promotes interfaith and interethnic understanding. ‘It's very dangerous. All the phones are tapped. But they are so excited.’”
Los Angeles Times, 3-24-03

“’Me and my husband, an old man, have to stay at home because we are afraid. We want the American government to remove Saddam Hussein from power and kick these soldiers out of these hills.’”
Fatma Omar, San Francisco Chronicle, 3-24-03

“‘We're very happy. Saddam Hussein is no good. Saddam Hussein a butcher.’”
Abdullah (only identification available), as he welcomed U.S. troops in Iraq
Associated Press, 3-21-03

“I have been waiting for this for 13 years. I hate him more than American government because I told you the Iraq government killed many people from Iraq. They just put (my brother) in jail for a year. After this, they killed him because he don't want to go to the army because his brother is American citizen, and his brother lives in United State.”
Ayid Alsultani, WFIE-14 television station in Evansville, Indiana, 3-24-03

“‘(The trip) had shocked me back to reality.’ (Some Iraqis) told me they would commit suicide if American bombing didn't start. They were willing to see their homes demolished to gain their freedom from Saddam's bloody tyranny. They convinced me that Saddam was a monster the likes of which the world had not seen since Stalin and Hitler. He and his sons are sick sadists. Their tales of slow torture and killing made me ill, such as people put in a huge shredder for plastic products, feet first so they could hear their screams as bodies got chewed up from foot to head.”
Kenneth Joseph, anti-war demonstrator who traveled to Iraq with Japanese human shield volunteers, UPI, 3-21-03

“I was shocked when I first met a pro-war Iraqi in Baghdad - a taxi driver taking me back to my hotel late at night. ‘Don't you listen to Powell on Voice of America radio?’ he said. ‘Of course the Americans don't want to bomb civilians. They want to bomb government and Saddam's palaces. We want America to bomb Saddam.’ … The driver's most emphatic statement was: ‘All Iraqi people want this war.’… Perhaps the most crushing thing we learned was that most ordinary Iraqis thought Saddam Hussein had paid us to come to protest in Iraq. Although we explained that this was categorically not the case, I don't think he believed us. Later he asked me: ‘Really, how much did Saddam pay you to come?’” Daniel Pepper in an article “I was a naive fool to be a human shield for Saddam,”
Sunday Telegraph, 3-23-2003

“As US forces push deep into Iraq, farmers and remote villagers are greeting them with white flags and waves. But the ground forces, backed by massive artillery and air support, are encountering pockets of resistance from Iraq's military. One man, about 30, yesterday ran from a field towards a US convoy shouting insults about Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. Other men and boys stood in fields waving white flags. In keeping with the local Muslim custom, no girls or women appeared from their houses.”
Lindsay Murdoch in southern Iraq, The Sun-Herald, 3-23-2003

“….The return of the Americans to Safwan was also an occasion for hope, even if mixed with wariness. ‘Saddam finished!’ shouted another young [Iraqi] man, who gave his name as Fares. ‘Americans are here now.’ His friend, Shebah, added, in broken English, ‘Saddam killed people.’”
Washington Post, 3-23-03

“Coming into Basra as part of a massive military convoy, I encountered a stream of young men, dressed in what appeared to be Iraqi army uniforms, applauding the US marines as they swept past in tanks.”
BBC reporter, 3-22-03

"Ajami Saadoun Khlis, whose son and brother were executed under the Saddam regime, sobbed like a child on the shoulder of the Guardian's Egyptian translator. He mopped the tears but they kept coming. 'You just arrived,' he said. 'You're late. What took you so long? God help you become victorious. I want to say hello to Bush, to shake his hand. We came out of the grave.'"
The Guadian, 3-22-03

“As hundreds of coalition troops swept in just after dawn, the heartache of a town that felt the hardest edges of Saddam Hussein's rule seemed to burst forth, with villagers running into the streets to celebrate in a kind of grim ecstasy, laughing and weeping in long guttural cries.

“‘Oooooo, peace be upon you, peace be upon you, peace you, oooooo,’ Zahra Khafi, a 68-year-old mother of five, cried to a group of American and British visitors who came to the town shortly after Mr. Hussein's army appeared to melt away. ‘I'm not afraid of Saddam anymore.’”
New York Times, 3-22-03

"We've been driving since dawn today in southern Iraq, and so far we've come across scores of Bedouin herdsmen. We've been greeted by friendly greetings of ‘inshallah’ and ‘salaam aleikum’…we've seen both women and men waving greetings and shouting greeting to the U.S. troops.”
Radio Free Europe correspondent Ron Synovitz, 3-21-03

"They told me that Saddam Hussein is not allowing anyone to leave Baghdad. I don't fear the Americans. I was in Baghdad in the war in 1991 and I saw how surgical an operation it was. Saddam Hussein has persecuted everyone except his own family. Kurds, Arab Shiites, Turkoman - everybody has suffered. But our country was a rich country and we can be rich again.'”
Financial Times Information, 3-21-03

"These are US Marines being greeted if not with garlands, with hand shakes by residents of the town in the deep-south corner of Iraq.”
CBS News, 3-21-03

"One little boy, who had chocolate melted all over his face after a soldier gave him some treats from his ration kit, kept pointing at the sky, saying 'Ameriki, Ameriki.'"
Associated Press, 3-21-03

"Milling crowds of men and boys watched as the Marines attached ropes on the front of their Jeeps to one portrait and then backed up, peeling the Iraqi leader's black-and-white metal image off a frame. Some locals briefly joined Maj. David 'Bull' Gurfein in a new cheer. 'Iraqis! Iraqis! Iraqis!' Gurfein yelled, pumping his fist in the air...

"....A few men and boys ventured out, putting makeshift white flags on their pickup trucks or waving white T-shirts out truck windows....'Americans very good,' Ali Khemy said. 'Iraq wants to be free. Some chanted, 'Ameriki! Ameriki!'

"Gurfein playfully traded pats with a disabled man and turned down a dinner invitation from townspeople. 'Friend, friend,' he told them in Arabic learned in the first Gulf War.

"'No Saddam Hussein!' one young man in headscarf told Gurfein. 'Bush!'"
Associated Press, 3-21-03

"Iraqi citizens were shown 'tearing down a poster of Saddam Hussein' and Dexter Filkins of The New York Times was interviewed, saying that Iraqis he had seen were 'hugging and kissing every American they could find.'"
NBC Nightly News, 3-21-03

"Here was a chance to stop and I clambered down, eager to get a first word from an Iraqi of what he thought of this whole affair. 'As salaam alekum,' I said in the traditional greeting, then ran out of Arabic and quickly added, 'Do you speak English?' No go. But with a fumbled exchange of gestures we slowly managed to communicate. Thumbs up for the American tanks, thumbs down for Saddam Hussein. Then he pointed north into the distance and said 'Baghdad.'"
Reuters, 3-21-03

"A line of dancing Kurdish men, staring directly into the mouth of the Iraqi guns less than a mile away, defiantly burned tires, sang traditional new years songs and chanted, 'Topple Saddam.'

"March 21 is the Kurdish New Year....And bonfires have long been a symbol of liberation in this part of the world. 'We're celebrating [Nawroz] a national holiday,' said Samad Abdulla Rahim, 22. 'But today we also celebrate the attack on Saddam.'

"Many expressed hope that deadly fire would light the night sky over Baghdad in the days ahead, bringing an end to the Kurd's epic 30-year struggle against Hussein and his Baath Party. 'I can't wait for the U.S. planes to come and liberate Kirkuk,' said Shahab Ahmed Sherif, a 33-year-old Kurd who had fled the oil-rich city four days earlier."
Copley News Service, 3-21-03

Unidentified Iraqi man: "Help us live better than this life. Let us have freedom."
ABC World News Tonight, 3-21-03

32 posted on 04/30/2003 9:39:06 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: TomAdkinsCC
It's way too early to say Saddam had no WMD. They are hidden well, it's going to take time to find them.
33 posted on 04/30/2003 9:39:29 PM PDT by John Lenin (History will be kind to me for I intend to write it)
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To: keeponrollin
I was very supportive of this war. I still am but I am sort of bummed out too. For one thing I am sick to death of seeing the Iraqi people yelling and shaking their fists at us day in and day out. We saved them from the torture chambers and the rape rooms and now they shake their fists at us and throw rocks? What is THAT all about? Why is Rumsfeld beaming all over? All I see is the fist shaking and banners telling us to go home. It makes him look like he is denying reality. Maybe I am expecting too much too soon.

Yes I do think we need to find WMD! Blair. Bush, Powell, Myers and Rice all said they had no doubt that Saddam had WMD. If he did not, then our intelligence community is really screwed up and we have a right to know how that happenend. Surely Saddam did not destroy ALL the evidence or send ALL WMD to Syria. I am going to be bummed out if they don't find solid evidence of WMD. I do think freeing the people was worth it, even if we don't find WMD and even if they are not grateful. But it would take a lot of the luster of the military victory IMHO.

35 posted on 04/30/2003 9:43:05 PM PDT by Theresa
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To: Theresa

36 posted on 04/30/2003 9:46:42 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: Spruce
Great posts from you! Feel free to steal pics or quotes from here in your supportive posts:
37 posted on 04/30/2003 9:49:32 PM PDT by Calpernia (
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To: wolf24
I have total confidence in him. This is an honorable and decent man. He is the kind of leader this great nation deserves. I don't know that it has been said yet, but there is another important reason to find the WMDs. The parents and other loved ones who lost someone have to know that, unlike the last one, this commander in chief will always be straight with them. After 8 years of a lying scoundrel, they need to know that.
38 posted on 04/30/2003 9:51:17 PM PDT by doug from upland (my dogs ran from the room when they heard Hillary shrieking on the radio)
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To: TomAdkinsCC
what happens if we don't find those weapons of mass destruction? You remember…the reason we went in to Iraq in the first place?


If somebody wants a war, don't lie to me about it. I don't like to be lied to. I distrust and even hate people who lie to me. That's one of the reasons I was, and am, disgusted with the Clintons.

Now if somebody wants to go to war to save children and the other "right" reasons listed here, say so and leave it at that. Don't crap me around with rationalizations that turn out to be manipulation. As far as I'm concerned, if Bush is going to try to crap me around and manipulate me, then he no more integrity and is no better than the Clintons.

39 posted on 04/30/2003 9:52:12 PM PDT by RLK
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To: Theresa
I am sick to death of seeing the Iraqi people yelling and shaking their fists at us day in and day out. We saved them from the torture chambers and the rape rooms and now they shake their fists at us and throw rocks? What is THAT all about? Why is Rumsfeld beaming all over? All I see is the fist shaking and banners telling us to go home. It makes him look like he is denying reality.

The visuals of happy Iraqis presenting our soldiers with beverage and flowers is no longer newsworthy. Just as in the US, the media finds conflict much more exciting, so naturally it is demonstrations, fist shaking, and anti-US rhetoric that is reported.

Remember, before the war started, if you judged US sentiment by the news presented, you would presume that the majority of US citizens was aginst Bush and the war effort, rather than 78% being supportive of our actions and a few vocal illiterates, and pro-communist organizations just getting all the press.

As Hannity says "let not your heart be troubled". Me thinks they are misunderestimating Bush again. ;-)

40 posted on 04/30/2003 9:52:31 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here)
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To: Calpernia

41 posted on 04/30/2003 9:56:54 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: Spruce
That is a great one! I may repost that to the homeland site one! Thanks.
42 posted on 04/30/2003 9:58:28 PM PDT by Calpernia (
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To: Spruce
That post was waaaay too long.

Yeah they appreciated what we did AT FIRST, but I am not seeing or hearing about much appreciation NOW. I just hope they are going to have patience over the long run. Post war is not going to be easy. That incident with us killing 7 civilians was really bad. A few more like that and things could get dicey. Not that I am against us being there. I am for it....but it's not as rosy a scenario as it being painted by the administration IMHO.

43 posted on 04/30/2003 9:58:35 PM PDT by Theresa
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To: TomAdkinsCC
We've already found them. Haven't you noticed the smug looks on the faces of those in the know when they're asked why we haven't found any WMD and what will we do if we don't find them. They all have that serene look as they say "Oh, they're there".
44 posted on 04/30/2003 10:00:17 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
We've already found them....They all have that serene look as they say "Oh, they're there".

I agree. The word finally came down to NOT publicly report any suspected WMD's that are found. Already, as trace amounts of bio-chems were found, the response was "is that all?" Well, IMO we are "building up" the evidence so that even in its bits and pieces it will, en-mass, appear to be as overwelming as it should. Time will tell, but why was the left so patient when it came to an evil dictator but now demand instant results from us? .... because its ALL about POLITICS!

45 posted on 04/30/2003 10:09:24 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here)
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To: Optimist
"As Hannity says "let not your heart be troubled". Me thinks they are misunderestimating Bush again. ;-)"

Well I hope you are right.

46 posted on 04/30/2003 10:13:02 PM PDT by Theresa
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To: Theresa
Patience, sister. Though you may find my posts "way too long". I assure you the sources are solid, the quotes are in-context, and the photos come from soldiers. Sometimes data takes time to import. :)
47 posted on 04/30/2003 10:14:33 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: McGavin999
"We've already found them. They all have that serene look as they say "Oh, they're there".

I hope so. I want to see Putin smacked down.

48 posted on 04/30/2003 10:15:56 PM PDT by Theresa
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To: keeponrollin
"Now the lid is off the Shiites who want an islamic state like Iran! We are putting the lid back on by shooting 50 demonstrators a day. This is not the America I grew up in and love."

Why are our guys even around when there is a demonstration? Why make themselves targets to an angry mob. Besides if we let them loot, we ought to let them demonstrate.

49 posted on 04/30/2003 10:25:29 PM PDT by Theresa
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To: Otto von Bismark
Does anybody remember a while back, there was a discussion about some 3 or 4 unidentified ships who would never identify themselves and ignore any hailing from authorities of any type.
It was speculated that, those ships were loaded with some sort of WMD and everyone was instructed not to attack them because of that very reason.

Question is,...what happens to the said ships and what's the status?

It looks like nobody cares/ask about it!...Am, I the only one asking for clarification, or what?(not that I need the White House to come clean on this just for me, like the Dixie Chicks did...)

50 posted on 04/30/2003 10:26:16 PM PDT by danmar
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