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Readers of right-wing web site threaten Muslims ***CAIR ALERT***
Council on American Islamic Relations ^ | 4/29/03 | CAIR NEWS RELEASE

Posted on 05/02/2003 6:47:41 PM PDT by JeepInMazar

Readers of right-wing web site threaten Muslims Hate e-mails include: 'kill muslims…f**k all of you…and die real soon'

NEWS RELEASE | 4/29/2003

(Washington, D.C.) - The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today reported that it has received numerous hate-filled and threatening messages from the readers of a right-wing Islamophobic web site. The Washington-based Islamic civil rights and advocacy group is working with the Department of Justice to investigate those messages that contained threats.

Some of the hate messages sent to CAIR from visitors to Worldnetdaily.com include:

1) "I don't say kill [Muslims]. But it would be a better world without them!" 2) F**k you; and the one humped camel you rode in on. 3) You are lower than snake sh*t. 4) islam is a scam to keep people down…kill the infidels. f**k that kill muslims… f**k all of you…and die real soon 5) Take the f**king towels off your heads and join the human race, A**HOLES!!!! 6) Please leave My Country…And leave it NOW! 7) Get out of America 8) I have been encouraged by Joe Farah of WorldnetDaily to send this to you…leave this nation and go back to the pile of cow manure you all came from 9) It won't be long before the immigration police will be there to help you go home to the cesspool you came from. 10) GO HOME! Wherever that is, it is not HERE!

CAIR officials say the hate-filled emails were prompted by a number of Worldnetdaily.com articles demonizing Muslims and by recent false charges made against CAIR by the site's editor, Joseph Farah.

His most recent articles smeared CAIR in an attempt to support the controversial nomination of Daniel Pipes to the United States Institute of Peace. The nomination of Pipes, who just this week said President Bush was wrong to call Islam a "religion of peace" and refused to condemn the internment of Japanese-Americans in World War II, is opposed by a number of Muslim and Arab-American groups, including CAIR.

Farah falsely claimed CAIR never condemned suicide bombings, called the conviction of the first World Trade Center bombings a "travesty of justice," termed the conviction of Omar Abdel Rahman a "hate crime," and that CAIR's board chairman said the Quran "should be the highest authority in America."

"We never called the conviction of the World Trade Center bombings a 'travesty of justice' and did not call the conviction of Sheikh Omar a 'hate crime,'" said CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad. "Our board chairman did not say the Quran should be the highest authority in America and we have repeatedly condemned terrorism in all its forms, including suicide bombings," said Awad.

He citied the group's statement of condemnation issued following a bomb attack on a Passover celebration in the coastal city of Netanya last March that left 20 people dead and more than 100 wounded: "We condemn this attack and all other attacks on innocent civilians…This attack is of particular concern coming as it did during a religious observance in which the focus is remembrance of God... To break this cycle of violence and counter-violence, all parties must focus on a political solution based on justice and equality, not force of arms."

Awad also noted that the alleged statement about the Quran by CAIR's board chairman was not in fact a quote. It was a paraphrase of remarks that were either reported inaccurately or wrongly attributed by a reporter at a small California newspaper. CAIR is seeking a retraction from that newspaper.

Farah's attacks also contain a number of other falsehoods and distortions. For example, he distorted the facts in an attempt link a CAIR advisory board member to the first World Trade Center attack.

That person, Imam Siraj Wahhaj, is one of the American Muslim community's most respected leaders and he works with almost all national Islamic organizations. As part of the original World Trade Center case, the prosecutors released a long list of people who "may be alleged as co-conspirators."

That list included anyone who came anywhere near Sheikh Omar. Since Imam Siraj was a leader in the New York community in which Sheikh Omar lived, his name was included on the list. He was never charged with any crime, nor was there any evidence presented that he was involved in the conspiracy in any way. Farah knows this but continues to vilify a respected Muslim leader.

In a past column, Farah claimed, "Islam has been at war with the West, with Christianity, with Judaism…ever since the days of [the Prophet] Muhammad." He also rejected criticism of a Worldnetdaily.com article advocating that, "For every [Israeli] civilian, 100 non-combatant Palestinian adults will be slain, and for every child, 1,000 adults," saying that he found the proposal to be "a very thoughtful and quite responsible contribution to the Middle East debate."

Other editorials on WorldNetDaily.com called the Quran, Islam's revealed text, a "suicide playbook" and recommended air-lifting pigs into Afghan mosques. One Worldnetdaily.com columnist wrote recently: "The only French custom that still survives [following Napoleon's invasion of Egypt] is the aversion to bathing." Another stated: "…freedom and democracy are incompatible with Islam."

CAIR, America's largest Islamic civil liberties group, is a mainstream organization that regularly works with national law enforcement authorities, elected officials and other civil liberties and minority groups. It is headquartered in Washington, D.C., and has 16 regional offices nationwide and in Canada. Since its founding in 1994, CAIR has defended the civil and religious rights of all Americans.


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1 posted on 05/02/2003 6:47:41 PM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: JeepInMazar
1) "I don't say kill [Muslims]. But it would be a better world without them!" 2) F**k you; and the one humped camel you rode in on. 3) You are lower than snake sh*t. 4) islam is a scam to keep people down…kill the infidels. f**k that kill muslims… f**k all of you…and die real soon 5) Take the f**king towels off your heads and join the human race, A**HOLES!!!! 6) Please leave My Country…And leave it NOW! 7) Get out of America 8) I have been encouraged by Joe Farah of WorldnetDaily to send this to you…leave this nation and go back to the pile of cow manure you all came from 9) It won't be long before the immigration police will be there to help you go home to the cesspool you came from. 10) GO HOME! Wherever that is, it is not HERE!

My gosh, these people are mad. You'd think, I don't know, like, maybe some muslims hijacked a bunch of airplanes, flew them into our skyscrapers and killed thousands of Americans. Sheesh.

2 posted on 05/02/2003 6:51:21 PM PDT by gg188
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To: JeepInMazar
Of course if CAIR ever gets it's way they'll just impose moslem law and execute anybody who disagrees with them...

I still don't see how arab propaganda groups can expect any educated conservative, much less a conservative Christian, to take the islamic propaganda seriously.
3 posted on 05/02/2003 6:56:57 PM PDT by ahadams2
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To: gg188
oh, I was thinking that with the mention of WND that some ilamics went and sent nasty emails to themselves to make people think that some people didn't like them.

(hey that's been done before, tho when the truth comes out it never gets the coverage, compared to the accusations, sigh) I suppose time will tell if my thougths are right.
4 posted on 05/02/2003 6:57:02 PM PDT by tickles
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To: JeepInMazar
Please pause a moment and reflect back, by taking the following multiple choice test:

1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by:
a. Olga Corbitt
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwartzeneger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



2. In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



3. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



4. In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70-year old, American passenger, wheel-chair, bound was thrown overboard into the ocean to drown by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



6. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a U.S. Navy diver was murdered by:
a. Captain Kid
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



7. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



9. In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary, to distract attention from Bill's women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



10. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked and destroyed and thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean and some wacky friends
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



11. In 2002 the United States began a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



12. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonny and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Dick C. and Dubya
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



Nope, no patterns anywhere to justify profiling!
5 posted on 05/02/2003 7:01:04 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: gg188
I have been encouraged by Joe Farah of WorldnetDaily to send this to you…leave this nation and go back to the pile of cow manure you all came from

LOL yeah its Joe Farahs fault...sounds like the Wahhabi Lobby (CAIR) is trying to get a few of its sleeper cell members to take out Farah or WND...new flight school underachievers perhaps.....

Typical CAIR whinning over nothing...sounds like the Palestinians...crying about Israel being unfair to them and its Israels fault forcing them into strapping explosives onto their children and sending them out to blow themselves and innocent Israeli children to pieces....

They kill us and say nothing...we give them a dirty look or criticize them and they scream bloody murder and pay big bucks to our crooked politicans to protect them and help them build more of their mosques and Islamic centers around the country...

the places where Jon Mohhamed and Malmo (the beltway snipers) and Sgt Akbar (the gifted student of Islam) were well educated in the ways of the great religon of peace...blah blah blah....

Joe Farah made me say this......LOL

Mommy he is looking at me funny .......

6 posted on 05/02/2003 7:02:23 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: JeepInMazar
Of course if CAIR ever gets it's way they'll just impose moslem law and execute anybody who disagrees with them...

CAIR has a larger agenda it wants to carry out and that is enactment of hate speech laws to shut people up. I trust them about as much as a hungry wolf.

7 posted on 05/02/2003 7:03:11 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: JeepInMazar
Since its founding in 1994, CAIR has defended the civil and religious rights of all Americans.

I have never heard them support the rights of Muslims in America to leave Islam. Because Islamic law is clear that any Muslim who leaves Islam should be killed it is important for Muslim groups in America to speak directly to this issue but CAIR is silent.

8 posted on 05/02/2003 7:03:13 PM PDT by JeepInMazar (www.answering-islam.org)
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To: tickles
You are quite right---it is very possible. The concept of lying does not exist in arab/muslim culture. (Sorta like the Clinton culture, huh)

Baghdad Bob, while funny, really stand for the way those people ARE: outrageous lying is just something they don't GET, can't concieve of.

They killed their own people so they could blame it on Christians. I have no doubt they are behind most of the "anti muslim hate speech" we may hear about in the mainstream, controlled media (whose interest it is to promote moslems since that helps tear down Christianity, and hence, America and our values.)

9 posted on 05/02/2003 7:06:45 PM PDT by gg188
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To: RaceBannon
Here is another one:

Since 1999 the Center of Peace and Hope in Christ for Afghanistan, a Christian group making the Bible available to the people of Aghanistan in their own languages, has recieved death threats from: Since its founding in 1994, CAIR has defended the civil and religious rights of all Americans.

a. girl scouts

b. Hindu and Sikh taxi drivers

c. Coptic Christians

d. Muslim male extremist mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

10 posted on 05/02/2003 7:08:58 PM PDT by JeepInMazar (www.answering-islam.org)
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To: RaceBannon
I think the Koran should be rewritten, with all the bad
stuff taken out, and a bunch of good stuff put in. Millions of copies should be distributed worldwide. What's anyone
going to do about it?
11 posted on 05/02/2003 7:08:58 PM PDT by Trickyguy
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To: ahadams2
Of course if CAIR ever gets it's way they'll just impose moslem law

On the bright side... they would make Hillary wear a burka.

12 posted on 05/02/2003 7:10:25 PM PDT by Blue Screen of Death
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To: JeepInMazar
Most of the messages were from CAIR.
13 posted on 05/02/2003 7:14:13 PM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us.)
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To: JeepInMazar
Dang, I read WND every day & I didn't see all of this hate speech on. I have never seen any of this hate speech on WND. Come to think of it, the only place I have heard that kind of hate speech has been from the Muslims. Maybe CAIR didn't hear them. Muslims are the ones who declare Jihad & kill inoccent people, not WND.
14 posted on 05/02/2003 7:15:51 PM PDT by jrushing (double u double u double u dot double u double u double u dot com)
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To: Blue Screen of Death

Who used the epithet "f--king Jew bastard"?
15 posted on 05/02/2003 7:16:10 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: JeepInMazar
CAIR apparently doesn't like that First Amendment thingy.
16 posted on 05/02/2003 7:16:25 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: JeepInMazar
CAIR is a trojan horse, but is about to go down. The demise of CAIR will be an important step in the War on Terror.
17 posted on 05/02/2003 7:17:28 PM PDT by Imperialist
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To: JeepInMazar
F**k you; and the one humped camel you rode in on.

Hmmmmm, If they ride 2 humped camels does that mean they will escape "racial profiling"?

18 posted on 05/02/2003 7:28:07 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Nothing worse than an angry herd of hungry finches....)
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To: JeepInMazar
I read something interested earlier by a group called 'Arab Republicans' who were denouncing President Bush and the Republican for being anti-Arab.

So my question is being that the CEO of WorldNetDaily Joseph Farah and the product of this recent hysteria, is ARAB himself does this make Farah anti-Arab?

Although i don't think it's quite right for people to be sending threats to American citizens i think sometimes these types of things are taken way out of context.
19 posted on 05/02/2003 7:36:54 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: Diogenesis
I was thinking they would be from Hindus --some in the US. I've heard the way Hindus talk about Muslims ---they slam them in ways we never could or would.
20 posted on 05/02/2003 7:37:36 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Hot Tabasco
F**k you; and the one humped camel you rode in on

Hmmmmm, If they ride 2 humped camels does that mean they will escape "racial profiling"?

No, No, low lifes ride in on one humped camels. Elites ride in on 2 humped camels. It ain't racial.

21 posted on 05/02/2003 7:37:45 PM PDT by jrushing (double u double u double u dot double u double u double u dot com)
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To: gg188
Actually, I think it's just a bunch of muslims who have sent the messages to try to prove "the right-wing" did it.
22 posted on 05/02/2003 7:42:50 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: JeepInMazar
Islamophobic?!

Geez whe have been getting alot of homosexual threads lately haven't we. Is CAIR mixing with GLSEN and GLAD?
23 posted on 05/02/2003 7:44:49 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: JeepInMazar
I would say this article would be prima facie evidence of why JimRob restricts the types of remarks made here at FR.

The kind of language they're quoting from the WND site is pretty ugly.
24 posted on 05/02/2003 8:00:41 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: JeepInMazar
The WND poster's positions seem perfectly rational to me. If the vermin under discussion have a problem, perhaps they should begin by ending their murderous rampaging throughout the world. According to GW yesterday: "On 9-11 they declared war on the USA, and WAR is what they got." Now they can't handle it, and they want the ACLU to protect them. For me, if I see these vile creatures in action, they will get more than a few insults. Locked and loaded bump.
25 posted on 05/02/2003 8:08:46 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Open the pod bay door HAL.)
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To: George W. Bush
When is the lid gonna be blown off this religion of peace crap?
26 posted on 05/02/2003 8:11:03 PM PDT by Stopislamnow
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
I wonder what the CAIR whiners intend to do about the Hindu websites ---- will they try to shut them down? Too bad but the truth about Islam will get out one way or another.

http://www.hinduunity.org

Some of these Hindus aren't overly fond of Christians but it's obvious what they view as the very big threat to the world.
27 posted on 05/02/2003 8:18:04 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: JeepInMazar
Moslems are forbidden alcohol, yet they love whine!
28 posted on 05/02/2003 8:18:37 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: JeepInMazar
Poll at Islamist Website needs Freeping. "Global Campaign Against Aggression": Defending Muslims Rights Around The World.

Let me know how it went. I tried to to vote but got a message saying I had already voted. I have never been to the website before.

Check out Reuven Paz's analysis of this campaign and website at Internet Haganah. "Global Campaign Against Aggression": The Supreme Council of Global Jihad?

29 posted on 05/02/2003 8:20:18 PM PDT by ganeshpuri89 (We miss you Daniel Pearl)
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To: JeepInMazar
Aren't CAIR and Al-Quaida both funded by the Saudi Royal Family?
30 posted on 05/02/2003 8:22:01 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
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To: gg188
Those comments could have come off of some DU threads I've read. Know thine enemy!
31 posted on 05/02/2003 8:35:14 PM PDT by Atchafalaya
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To: joesnuffy
Actually to me this sounds like democommies who have ready Joe's article and used it as a basis to send this and make him and conservatives look bad. Can you say rigged? Setup?
32 posted on 05/02/2003 8:45:24 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American Way! Toby Keith)
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To: JeepInMazar
Persoanlly, I stay away from right-wing hate sites and stick with right-wing compassion sites.
33 posted on 05/02/2003 8:48:47 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: JeepInMazar
Hello, Mr. Muslim. My Master told me to write to you and curse you for being a murdering scumbag. Curse you, beyond your mustache, for being a killer of infidel white European people. I show the sole of my shoe to you, O Muslim camelhumper. Curse you and the rug your mother laid your brother on. Pig grease applied to your backside, O' Muslim idolatorous goatstroker. These curses, I shame you with because my Master tells me to.
34 posted on 05/02/2003 9:04:46 PM PDT by Thumper1960
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To: JeepInMazar
I'm supposed to believe that someone seriously wrote "I have been encouraged by Joe Farah of WorldnetDaily to send this to you…leave this nation and go back to the pile of cow manure you all came from?"

If that message was ever sent, it was sent to make WND look bad. Now who would do that?
35 posted on 05/02/2003 9:09:49 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: ahadams2
Of course if CAIR ever gets it's way they'll just impose moslem law and execute anybody who disagrees with them...

////
Ahhhh. . . . How quaint! I can HARDLY wait. (Not.)
36 posted on 05/02/2003 9:12:14 PM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: George W. Bush
Actually the article posted is a press release from CAIR which is quoting WND and email messages CAIR as recieved from people. The bad language they are quoting is from the email messages.

CAIR is just trying to make a case out of people sending them email messages that makes them feel offended.

37 posted on 05/02/2003 9:13:34 PM PDT by JeepInMazar (www.answering-islam.org)
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To: ganeshpuri89
I got in and voted.
38 posted on 05/02/2003 9:16:25 PM PDT by JeepInMazar (www.answering-islam.org)
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To: JeepInMazar
From http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/26/muslims/index1.html

"CAIR went so far as to list Abdul-Rahman's lawyers' criticisms of the trial as "far from free and fair" on a 1996 list of "incidents of anti-Muslim bias and violence" in a book called "The Price of Ignorance" which dealt with the "status of Muslim civil rights in the United States." And CAIR's founder, Nihad Awad, wrote in the Muslim World Monitor that the World Trade Center trial, which ended in the conviction in 1994 of four Islamic fundamentalist terrorists, was "a travesty of justice." According to Awad -- and despite the confessions of the terrorists from the 1993 attack -- "there is ample evidence indicating that both the Mossad and the Egyptian Intelligence played a role in the explosion."

From http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30310
"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future," [CAIR's Ibrahim] Hooper told the Star Tribune. "But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education."
[The start of the article shows how CAIR works. Who does it remind you of?]

Then, there's 8 questions for Ibrahim:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=6546
39 posted on 05/02/2003 9:18:16 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: JeepInMazar
Sad to say, but the more I learn of Islam, the more I come to detest it.

Those freaken religious nuts want to turn the world back to the dark ages. I mean hell, I thought the Nazis had some bad $h!T in store for mankind, Hitler must have been no more than a baby stepping Islamist at heart.
40 posted on 05/02/2003 9:31:07 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: JeepInMazar
bookmarked
41 posted on 05/02/2003 9:32:40 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: Thumper1960
I swing my shoe at you, and may your stomachs burn in hell.

Baghdad Bob encouraged me to post this.
42 posted on 05/02/2003 9:34:29 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Trickyguy
I think the Koran should be rewritten,

Well, they have that covered! You might find this mathematical dissertation on how the text can't be modified interesting! The website has pages and pages of elaborate, built-in "mathematical verification" to ensure the Quaran's authenticity!


Submission.org: Nineteen is the common denominator throughout the Quran's mathematical system.

THE SIMPLE FACTS

Like the Quran itself, the Quran's mathematical coding ranges from the very simple, to the very complex. The Simple Facts are those observations that can be ascertained without using any tools. The complex facts require the assistance of a calculator or a computer. The following facts do not require any tools to be verified, but please remember they all refer to the original Arabic text:

1. The first verse (1:1),known as "Basmalah," consists of 19 letters.
2.
The Quran consists of 114 suras, which is ..............19 x 6.
3.
The total number of verses in the Quran is 6346, or ....19 x 334. [6234 numbered verses & 112 un-numbered verses (Basmalahs) 6234+112 = 6346] Note that 6+3+4+6 =.......19.
4.
The Basmalah occurs 114 times, despite its conspicuous absence from Sura 9 (it occurs twice in Sura 27) & 114= 19x6.
5.
From the missing Basmalah of Sura 9 to the extra Basmalah of Sura 27, there are precisely ...............19 suras.
6
. It follows that the total of the sura numbers from 9 to 27 (9+10+11+12+...+26+27) is 342, or .............19 x 18.
7.
This total (342) also equals the number of words between the two Basmalahs of Sura 27, and 342 = ........19 x 18.
8.
The famous first revelation (96:1-5) consists of .......19 words.
9
. This 19-worded first revelation consists of 76 letters .19 x 4.
10.
Sura 96, first in the chronological sequence, consists of .....................................................19 verses.
11.
This first chronological sura is placed atop the last ..19 suras.
12.
Sura 96 consists of 304 Arabic letters, and 304 equals .19 x 16.
13
. The last revelation (Sura 110) consists of ............19 words.
14.
The first verse of the last revelation (110:1) consists of ................19 letters.
15.
14 different Arabic letters, form 14 different sets of "Quranic Initials" (such as A.L.M. of 2:1), and prefix 29 suras. These numbers add up to 14+14+29 = 57 = ......19 x 3.
16.
The total of the 29 sura numbers where the Quranic Initials occur is 2+3+7+...+50+68 = 822, and 822+14 (14 sets of initials) equals 836, or ................. 19 x 44.
17.
Between the first initialed sura (Sura 2) and the last initialed sura (Sura 68) there are 38 un-initialed suras 19 x 2.
18.
Between the first and last initialed sura there are ....19 sets of alternating "initialed" and "un-initialed" suras.
19.
The Quran mentions 30 different numbers: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 19, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 99, 100, 200, 300, 1000, 2000, 3000, 5000, 50,000, & 100,000. The sum of these numbers is 162146, which equals 19x8534.

43 posted on 05/02/2003 9:47:38 PM PDT by mikeIII
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
May your waterskins spring leaks. May your camels spit in your couscous. May your tents be buried in sand. May your wives stay home at night. May your date palms be barren and your Imam fondle your favorite sheep.
44 posted on 05/02/2003 10:37:45 PM PDT by Thumper1960
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To: mikeIII
I'm sure there's a way that 666 fits into the "Quran".
45 posted on 05/02/2003 10:40:47 PM PDT by Thumper1960
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To: mikeIII
Easy enough to retain those rules in any expurgation of the non-religious Quranic hate passages.
46 posted on 05/02/2003 10:41:24 PM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: Imperialist
CAIR is a trojan horse, but is about to go down. The demise of CAIR will be an important step in the War on Terror.

I hope you are right. One part of our war has to be a mindshare thing. An "American Street" thing. A marketing thing.

My humble read on it is this:

The "American Street" will get that warm fuzzy, we can all get along, feeling about Islam, some time after the bomb bearing, b. in the burka, doesn't blow me, or my brothers, up.

47 posted on 05/02/2003 11:38:04 PM PDT by FreeRadical (freeradical at gundealers dot com)
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To: JeepInMazar
Wonder how they feel about the threats and hatred in the sermons in Mosques. They need to oppose that hatred and language,too.How do they feel about oppression of arabs by arabs?
48 posted on 05/02/2003 11:51:11 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: ahadams2


>>Of course if CAIR ever gets it's way they'll just impose moslem law and execute anybody who disagrees with them...<<

I have a 12 gauge Mossberg with high brass, hollow point sabot slugs that says they won't impose sharia laws on me.

49 posted on 05/02/2003 11:57:45 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: JeepInMazar
Dark is the light,
The man you fight,
With all your prayers, incantations,
Running away, a trivial day,
Of judgment and deliverance,
To whom was sold, this bounty soul,
A gentile or a priest?
Who victored over, the Seljuks,
When the holy land was taken

We will fight the heathens, We will fight the heathens (X2)

Was it the riches, of the land,
Powers of bright darkness,
That lead the noble, to the East,
To fight the heathens

We will fight the heathens, We will fight the heathens (X4)

We must call upon our bright darkness,
Beliefs, they're the bullets of the wicked,
One was written on the sword,
For you must enter a room to destroy it,
International security,
Call of the righteous man,
Needs a reason to kill man,
History teaches us so,
The reason he must attain,
Must be approved by his God,
His child, partisan brother of war,

Of war, we don't speak anymore, (X4)

We will fight the heathens, We will fight the heathens (X4)


System of a Down, War?
50 posted on 05/03/2003 5:21:12 AM PDT by zx2dragon
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