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FL: Pro-Gun Group Prompts Arrest Of One Of It's Own At National Convention
http://www.sierratimes.com ^ | 5-4-03 | J.J. Johnson

Posted on 05/04/2003 4:04:16 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

FL: Pro-Gun Group Prompts Arrest Of One Of It's Own At National Convention By J.J. Johnson - Sierra Times.com

Orlando, Florida - Leaders of a pro-second amendment, liberty activist group are outraged over the arrest of a member of their group, who is also a paid member of the well-known second amendment group that had him arrested for passing out flyers outside a gun show last Sunday.

The National Rifle Association apparently had one of its members, a pro-gun activist, arrested at its national convention on, April 27, 2003 in Orlando, Florida for handing out pro-gun freedom literature from an organization known as the Free State Project, Inc. The unlucky NRA member was Timothy Condon, a Marine Corps Vietnam veteran and Director of Member Services for the rapidly growing Free State Project.

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To: Shooter 2.5
Well first off the Washington Post is still privately owned, as is the New York Times, so not avialable for a conservative buy out take over.

The idea of the Free State Project is not to get a two senators out of 100, arguably we already have at least two conservatives in the Senate. The idea is to use elections to move one state's internal policies towards a simpler, smaller and lower cost form of government. This would be more in line with what many believe the founders intended and the Constitution calls for.

Thus the focus would be on the elimination of unneeded state laws, regulations, bureacrats, programs, fees and taxes.

Things might get interesting when the State government began asserting itself under the 10th Ammendment.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

This ammendment, tortured Supreme Court interpretations of the commerce clause notwithstanding, is violated every day by the federal govenment. Only a State has the standing to challenge this. Wyoming has already told Federal alphabet soup 'law enforcement' agencies they may only operate with the knowledge and agreement of the local sheriff.

I don't think an early emphasis will be on ending all drug and prostitution laws. I think ending welfare is a much more likely first action, and gun control. Most gun laws are federal, and the feds are quite willing to enforce them for cities that don't want to do it themselves. (As cases in Santa Cruz and elsewhere have shown.)

21 posted on 05/04/2003 11:29:41 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
That's well and good but you seem to think it's easier to take over an entire state than make an offer to buy a newspaper.

You are writing about people moving from their homes and extended families, quiting their jobs and then relocating to a state many may have never visited before. From what I could tell from the website the state hasn't even been picked yet.

Well, good luck to you. I hope no one gets arrested for trespassing again. That old saying, "Any publicity is good publicity" doesn't work with fringe groups.
22 posted on 05/04/2003 11:44:33 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Shooter 2.5
I agree getting arrested in counter productive. There seems to be a lot of conservative media out there already -everything from Fox News to Free Republic, but I haven't seen it have much effect on rolling back Socialist Government, have you? I think it's going to take actual actions to make this happen.

Your corret, that state has not been chosen. The bylaws allow for that when 5,000 people join. Right now there are about 3,500. The move begins when 20,000 people sign up. That's the plan. I have no idea if it will work or not, but at least its trying something new.

Voting Republican is a holding action, at best. Look at the creepy-crawly on Socialized medicine. The R's led by Newt went full bore to defeat it in '92 and rode it to victory. But then went ahead and passed a bunch of it anyway in the Congress they controlled. Bush himself toys with a prescription drug 'right' that he may choose to establish if his pollsters tell him he should.

What ever its failing the Free State Project is at least a new idea on how to slow, stop and reverse the slide to Socialism. My effective tax rate is about 55% and always going up. You got a better plan to reverse the slide I'd love to hear it. Hell, I might sign on the help.

23 posted on 05/04/2003 12:13:28 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
5000 people voting as a block would have won the election for mayor in salisbury maryland, where only 3600 voted in the entire election... the winner won by 87 votes and is now in danger of being recalled for her socialistic ways...

jmt, and yes i am a free state member, teeman
24 posted on 05/04/2003 5:39:50 PM PDT by teeman8r
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To: Shooter 2.5
Why limit your politiical power to a single state that has two Senators and a handful of congressman?

Because they aren't trying to do this to change the country but to change a state which they want to live in. Then if it goes well other states might look to it as an example.

Having little political power in D.C. doesn't matter as much if your not couinting on D.C. to deliver the pork.

25 posted on 05/04/2003 7:35:57 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Justice is the one thing you should always find. Saddle up your boys and draw a hardline.)
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