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Kennedy, LIBERAL REPUBLICANS, Urge Protection for Homosexuals
Cybercast News Service. ^ | May 05, 2003 | Lawrence Morahan

Posted on 05/06/2003 8:32:40 AM PDT by Polycarp


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Kennedy, Liberal Republicans Urge Protection for Homosexuals
By Lawrence Morahan
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
May 05, 2003

(CNSNews.com) - With the support of liberal Republicans, Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) has reintroduced legislation that would expand federal hate crime laws to include crimes motivated by a victim's "sexual orientation."

Co-sponsored by Republican Sens. Arlen Specter (Pa.) and Gordon Smith (Ore.), Kennedy's bill would add the new classification to existing laws that target violence because of race and religion, in effect granting special protection to homosexuals as a class of people.

The bill, titled the Local Law Enforcement Enhancement Act of 2003, also would increase federal jurisdiction in hate crimes, allowing the Justice Department to investigate crimes against homosexuals even if local authorities found no reason to prosecute them, legal analysts said.

Comparing hate crimes to terrorism, Kennedy said in prepared remarks Thursday that hate crimes "are a violation of everything our country stands for. Like all acts of terrorism, they have an impact far greater than that suffered by the individual victims and their families."

Arabs and Muslims also have been increasingly targets of hate crimes since 9/11, particularly in Los Angeles and Chicago. In all, law enforcement officials registered 9,730 hate crimes in the United States in 2001, Kennedy said, citing FBI figures.

Sponsors of the bill said they had the support of 175 law enforcement and religious groups.

In previous years, Kennedy succeeded in passing two similar hate crime bills in the Senate; the legislation did not pass in the House, however.

The new legislation would strengthen the ability of federal, state and local governments to investigate and prosecute hate crimes based on race, ethnic background, religion, gender, sexual orientation and disability.

It would also enable the Justice Department to assist state and local agencies in the investigation and prosecution of hate crimes, as well as provide grants to help state and local governments meet the expenses involved in hate crime cases.

Hate crime laws, which are on the books in 42 states and the District of Columbia, vary in their application and effect but generally provide for increased fines and jail terms if it can be proven a crime was motivated by racial, ethnic or gender-based hatred.

Twenty-one states with hate crime laws include legislation against acts of violence based on "sexual orientation."

Opponents of hate crime legislation say existing laws already cover the new statutes and that are basically unenforceable.

"Hate crime laws violate the constitutional provision of equal protection of the laws," said Michael Schwartz, vice president of government relations with Concerned Women for America.

"They force prosecutors to inquire into the motivations of criminals, and the essence of criminal law in the Anglo-American tradition has been the determination of external acts, not internal dispositions," he said.

Once prosecutors start to psychoanalyze people and criminalize what they think and how they feel, "then we are crossing a very, very dangerous line," Schwartz said.

The U.S. legal tradition is clear about the sharp definitions that distinguish between lawful activities and unlawful activities, and those definitions can be made only with respect to overt acts, Schwartz said.

"An overt act is either criminal or it's not criminal. Its criminality cannot depend on the state of mind of the perpetrator or the category of identity of the victim," he said.

Andrea Lafferty, executive director of Traditional Values Coalition, said the measure would silence people of faith who wanted to speak publicly on moral issues.

"The purpose of this legislation is really to use federal law to force Americans to accept homosexuality," Lafferty said.

"It also will infringe upon people's freedom of speech and their religious freedoms. We're seeing this happen in Canada, where pastors and other people cannot say that homosexuality is a sin. That is now considered a hate crime, and that is exactly what's going to happen here in the United States," she said.

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Andrea Lafferty, executive director of Traditional Values Coalition, said the measure would silence people of faith who wanted to speak publicly on moral issues.

"The purpose of this legislation is really to use federal law to force Americans to accept homosexuality," Lafferty said.

"It also will infringe upon people's freedom of speech and their religious freedoms. We're seeing this happen in Canada, where pastors and other people cannot say that homosexuality is a sin. That is now considered a hate crime, and that is exactly what's going to happen here in the United States," she said.

1 posted on 05/06/2003 8:32:40 AM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
You mean we have laws that say it is ok to hurt people based on their sexual orientation? Gosh, I thought laws covered everyone - guess I was wrong all these years, sheesh!
2 posted on 05/06/2003 8:36:58 AM PDT by chance33_98 (www.hannahmore.com -- Shepherd Of Salisbury Plain is online, more to come! (my website))
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To: Polycarp
Kennedy, Liberal Republicans Urge Protection for Homosexuals

They need protection? How about the safe confines of a closet?

3 posted on 05/06/2003 8:37:11 AM PDT by Living Free in NH
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To: .45MAN; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; Antoninus; aposiopetic; Aquinasfan; ...
The deadliest battle yet for Conservatism: The Homosexual Juggernaut versus the Culture of Life.

"Even more posts on homosexuality...i'm curious as to why?"

Homosexuality--Why [many "Conservatives"] condone it or fail to condemn it

4 posted on 05/06/2003 8:39:09 AM PDT by Polycarp (So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth.)
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To: Polycarp
So, now Arlen Specter is a liberal Republican? Since he's being challenged in the primary I thought he was in "conservative" mode. Someone ought to cut this out and save it for the primary voters.
5 posted on 05/06/2003 8:39:56 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Polycarp
Arlen Specter is just ASKING for it . . .

So much for him "running to the right".

6 posted on 05/06/2003 8:40:16 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (That's my theory and I'm sticking to it! At least for the present . . .)
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To: JohnnyZ
Okay, Cicero took my Arlen comment, so I'll defend GORDON SMITH, who's generally a good conservative with only a couple caveats like this.
7 posted on 05/06/2003 8:41:28 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (That's my theory and I'm sticking to it! At least for the present . . .)
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To: chance33_98
Soddom wasnt destroyed for lack of Republicans
8 posted on 05/06/2003 8:43:12 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: chance33_98
They could always hide behind a door.(closet)
9 posted on 05/06/2003 8:48:14 AM PDT by CONSERVE
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To: Polycarp
Ted Kennedy should be excommunicated.

That said, this disturbs me..

We're seeing this happen in Canada, where pastors and other people cannot say that homosexuality is a sin.

If this happens in the USA, I may have to ask my fellow sympathetic FReepers to help bail me out of jail. There is NO WAY they are going to tell this Deacon what he can and cannot preach about.

BTW, Poly, as a fellow Catholic and brother in the faith, I blame the Bishops for the situation we now find ourselves in. They have been spineless (mostly) in protecting the faith against the attacks of the Kennedys, Dashles, Reeds etc. We WILL suffer persecution over their SLOTH.

10 posted on 05/06/2003 8:49:13 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: Polycarp
Any law seeking to punish criminals seperately for their MOTIVE is stupid, and WRONG! These laws are so difficult to prosecute anyways...
11 posted on 05/06/2003 8:56:55 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (When news breaks, we fix it!)
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To: Polycarp
1)Homosexuals, as a demographic group, have, by far, the largest amount of discressionary income ("poopin' around money")of any group in the United States.

2) Money is the mother's milk of politics

3) He who pays the piper calls the dance.

QED

12 posted on 05/06/2003 9:08:02 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: Living Free in NH
This will in fact, elevate faggots to a level above others. So-called Hate Crimes legislation creates special classes of people who are beyond reproach.

So much for the republic.
13 posted on 05/06/2003 9:08:21 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Polycarp
Pat Toomey for Senator.
14 posted on 05/06/2003 9:09:01 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: ThomasMore
We WILL suffer persecution over their SLOTH.

Why will we suffer persecution over thier sloth? I know life isn't fair, etc. etc. but haven't we suffered enough vis-a-vis Vatican II?

15 posted on 05/06/2003 9:13:16 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: Polycarp
"It also will infringe upon people's freedom of speech and their religious freedoms. We're seeing this happen in Canada, where pastors and other people cannot say that homosexuality is a sin. That is now considered a hate crime, and that is exactly what's going to happen here in the United States," she said.
An inflammatory statement not supported by facts.
16 posted on 05/06/2003 9:22:55 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: Polycarp
Now they need special laws?

Whine and complain and meet a Kennedy and you too can have your very own laws.

Appearantly, the laws that apply to the rest of us just aren't good enough.
17 posted on 05/06/2003 9:32:49 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Desdemona
The timing of this is interesting coming on the heels of the Rick Santorum comments. I am anxious to see how he reacts to this bill and, also, how he votes.
18 posted on 05/06/2003 9:46:17 AM PDT by Russ
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To: ThomasMore
BTW, Poly, as a fellow Catholic and brother in the faith, I blame the Bishops for the situation we now find ourselves in. They have been spineless (mostly) in protecting the faith against the attacks of the Kennedys, Dashles, Reeds etc. We WILL suffer persecution over their SLOTH.

Oh...but...but...they published that wonderful orthodox defense of Catholic teaching on homosexuality in "Always Our Children." (/sarcasm)

Cardinal Ratzinger and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, in 1990, enumerated the definitive church teaching on this issue, with a document entitled "Some Considerations Concerning the Catholic Response to Legislative Proposals on the Non-Discrimination of Homosexual Persons." Paragraph 9 of this document states:

``In assessing proposed legislation, the Bishops should keep as their uppermost concern the responsibility to defend and promote family life'' (no. 17).

Furthermore, under "Applications," Paragraphs 10 and 11 of the Document states:

10. ``Sexual orientation'' does not constitute a quality comparable to race, ethnic background, etc. in respect to non-discrimination. Unlike these, homosexual orientation is an objective disorder (cf. ``Letter,'' no. 3).

11. There are areas in which it is not unjust discrimination to take sexual orientation into account, for example, in the consignment of children to adoption or foster care, in employment of teachers or coaches, and in military recruitment.

Guess the US and UN will soon be locking up Cardinal Ratzinger for HATE CRIMES.

19 posted on 05/06/2003 10:12:01 AM PDT by Polycarp (So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth.)
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To: ThomasMore
Again, referring to the 1990 document, "Some Considerations Concerning the Catholic Response to Legislative Proposals on the Non-Discrimination of Homosexual Persons," Paragraph 16 states:

"Finally, since a matter of the common good is concerned, it is inappropriate for Church authorities to endorse or remain neutral toward adverse legislation even if it grants exceptions to Church organizations and institutions. The Church has the responsibility to promote the public morality of the entire civil society on the basis of fundamental moral values, not simply to protect herself from the application of harmful laws (cf. no. 17)."

Those Bishops who have sat silently by or supported homo rights bills should be removed (at a minimum.)

More than likely, those same Bishops who have sat silently by or supported homo rights bills also protected homo pederast priests.

20 posted on 05/06/2003 10:17:06 AM PDT by Polycarp (He who denies the existence of God, has some reason for wishing that God did not exist.-Augustine)
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