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The "Palestine" Deception- Jordan Is Palestine
SEAMUS ^ | May 7 2003 | unknown

Posted on 05/07/2003 11:38:37 AM PDT by joesnuffy

The "Palestine" Deception - Jordan is Palestine

If Jordan is "Palestine" there is no need to create another country called "Palestine".

In 1981 King Hussein (Abdullah's grandson and late ruler of Jordan) stated in an interview with an Arab newspaper: "The truth is that Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan."1. Later, in 1984, in another interview with an Arab newspaper, he said: "Jordan is Palestine ... Jordan in itself is palestine."2. Crown Prince Hassan, then heir to Jordan's throne, also stated the same thing: "Palestine is Jordan and Jordan is Palestine. There is one people and one land, with one history and one destiny."3. And the PLO leadership declare it also:

Yasser Arafat: "What you call Jordan is actually Palestine."4.

Chafiq el Hout: "Jordan is an integral part of Palestine."5.

Abu Iyad: "We are one and the same people."6.

Below is a map of the region known as "Palestine" when the British took control after the fall of the Ottoman Empire at the end of World War 1:

By the middle of the twentieth century this region was divided into two countries - "Palestine" and Israel. I say "Palestine" because Abdullah of Mecca (who was promised this kingdom) originally wanted to call his 77 percent of "Palestine" the "Hashemite Kingdom of Palestine", but he gave in to British opposition and called it "Transjordan." It was later renamed to the official name it still carries---the "Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan," but more commonly known as Jordan.

So, as you can see, Jordan is the modern Palestine:

Why does Yasser Arafat and his PLO demand the creation of a second "Palestinian" state?

The country of Jordan comprises most of the land of "Palestine". The great majority of Jordan's population is "Palestinian", the Jordanian army is comprised of a majority of "Palestinians", and most of the Arabs living in the Israeli administered territories hold Jordanian passports. In addition to this, the 1970 Jordanian-PLO war was considered a civil war and recorded as such.

The evidence is overwhelming. An independent Palestinian Arab state already exists in the Middle East in the form of Jordan nearly 80 percent of the whole of Palestine. So why do politicians and the news media keep beating on Israel to withdraw to indefensible boundaries?

Arafat wants a chunk of Israel (Gaza and "West Bank") to be his "Palestinian" state but he isn't squealing to the UN for a chunk of Jordan too. Why is this?

1. King Hussein in Al-Nahar Al-Arabi, Dec.26, 1981. Netanyahu, A Place Among The Nations, p.147.

2. Ibid*.

3. Crown Prince Hassan to the Jordaninan National Assembly and reported in Al-Destour Feb. 5, 1970. Cited in Ibid.

4. Yasser Arafat in New Republic, 1974. Cited in Bennett, When Day and Night Cease, p.211.

5. Chafiq el Hout, PLO official on Radio Cairo, May 30, 1967. Cited in Netanyahu, A Place Among The Nations, p.147.

6. Abu Iyad, Arafat's deputy in Al-Majallah, Nov. 8, 1988. Cited in Ibid.

*ibid. In the same place. Used in footnotes and bibliographies to refer to the book, chapter, article, or page cited just before.

Statement by Zuheir Mohsein, Member of the Supreme Council of the PLO:

"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity, because it is in the interest of the Arabs to encourage a separate Palestinian identity in contrast to Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity is there only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new expedient to continue the fight against Zionism and for Arab unity."

Trouw (Dutch newspaper) March 31, 1977

One always finds in Palestine Arabs who have been in the country only a few weeks or a few months...Since they are themselves strangers in a strange land, they are the loudest to cry: 'Out with the Jews!...Amongst them are to be found representatives of every Arab country: Arabs from Transjordan, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Egypt, the Sudan and Iraq.

(Ladislas Farago, Palestine at the Crossroads (New York: Putnam 1937) p17

The Jordanian Foreign Minister said (Adwa'min pp. 4-5):

Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan, and Jordan hails every Palestinian who seeks to do his duty to his cause and his country.

Declaration of the 8th Palestinian National Congress

Jordan is linked to Palestine by a national relationship and a national unity forged by history and culture from earliest times. The creation of one political entity in East Jordan and another in Palestine would have no basis either in legality or as to the elements universally accepted as fundamental to a political entity.

(R. Hamid (ed.) Muqararat al-majlis al-watani al-filastini 1964 Resolutions of the PNCs 1964-1974, Beirut, PLO Research Centre, 1975, p178 Declaration of the 8th Palestinian National Congress)

This (Jerusalem) for them (the Arabs) was not in 'Palestine'. For the Arabs (And the Turks) the whole of the region lying between the Taurus Mountains and the confines of Egypt, and between the Mediterranean and the edge of the desert, was 'Syria' a term which had been in use since remote antiquity.

(Sir Geoffrey Furlonge, Palestine is My Country, The Story of Mussa Alami (New York, 1969) p. 7

Abdul Malik Dahamshe, an Israeli Arab Knesset member, said at a solidarity visit in Damascus, Syria [David Makovsky, Jerusalem Post, January 24, 1995]:

Palestine and Syria are one homeland. The Arab people will win by the sword; the victory will be won by the Jihad of the Arab world.

Statement by Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi to the Pell Commission in 1937

There is no such country as 'Palestine'; 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented!"

Arab MK, Abdul Darawshe said [Jerusalem Institute of Western Defence, Bulletin 3, August 15, 1997]:

There is no difference between one Palestinian and another. We are all Palestinians and we are all Syrian Arabs.

Statement by Ahmed Shuqeiri, to the UN Security Council in 1949

It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria.

Salah Khalaf (Abu Iyad) number two in the PLO leadership (Al Sachrah, Kuwait, Jan. 6, 1987)

We will take Palestine and turn it into a part of the greater Arab nation.

Palestine has never existed...as an autonomous entity. There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc.

Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of one percent of the landmass. But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today...No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough.

From Myths of the Middle East, Joseph Farah, Arab-American editor and journalist, WorldNetDaily, 11 October 2000

". . . Israel established a civilized, Western-style outpost in which, for the first time in that region, individual rights were recognized. It is the Arabs' tribalism that creates the threat to peace; it is their antagonism toward the principle of rights that makes them willing to engage in both open warfare and covert terrorism. . . It is a moral perversion to demand that Israel give back the very land it captured in the process of defending itself against wars launched by the Arab aggressors."

Leonard Peikoff, " Israel 's and America 's Fundamental Choice"

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1 posted on 05/07/2003 11:38:37 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: joesnuffy
Thank you for posting this. It clearly refutes the lefties screaming about Israel "taking" land from the Palestinians. And also puts to rest their misinformed belief that Palestine is a country.
2 posted on 05/07/2003 11:50:29 AM PDT by EggsAckley ( Midnight at the Oasis)
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To: joesnuffy
So how do we get the word out to Destro, the Country, and the World, that this is why Israel must NEVER give up Jerusalem, Judea, and Samaria?
3 posted on 05/07/2003 11:55:40 AM PDT by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American Anger)
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To: Destro
Today is Israeli Independence day. Long live Zion.
4 posted on 05/07/2003 11:56:45 AM PDT by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American Anger)
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To: joesnuffy
Arafat wants a chunk of Israel (Gaza and "West Bank") to be his "Palestinian" state but he isn't squealing to the UN for a chunk of Jordan too. Why is this?

Because the previous Hashemite monarch kicked his butt 33 years ago?

5 posted on 05/07/2003 11:58:26 AM PDT by Alouette (Why is it called "International Law" if only Israel and the United States are expected to keep it?)
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To: joesnuffy
There never has been a 'country' called "Palestine". There was/is a geographic area called 'Palestine' but it was never a country.
6 posted on 05/07/2003 12:02:28 PM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: joesnuffy
Why does Yasser Arafat and his PLO demand the creation of a second "Palestinian" state?

The country of Jordan comprises most of the land of "Palestine". The great majority of Jordan's population is "Palestinian", the Jordanian army is comprised of a majority of "Palestinians", and most of the Arabs living in the Israeli administered territories hold Jordanian passports. In addition to this, the 1970 Jordanian-PLO war was considered a civil war and recorded as such.

The evidence is overwhelming. An independent Palestinian Arab state already exists in the Middle East in the form of Jordan nearly 80 percent of the whole of Palestine. So why do politicians and the news media keep beating on Israel to withdraw to indefensible boundaries?

Arafat wants a chunk of Israel (Gaza and "West Bank") to be his "Palestinian" state but he isn't squealing to the UN for a chunk of Jordan too. Why is this?

How stupid do you think we are? Gaza and the West Bank are 90%+ Arab. Why shouldn't the residents have the right to be an Arab state, instead of Israeli military occupied territories?

Or is what you are really saying that the Arab inhabitants should be expelled across the Jordan to make "defensible" geographic and ethnic borders?

If that's the case, I'll call you a supporter of Israeli Naziism.

7 posted on 05/07/2003 12:15:39 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: johnb838; joesnuffy; EggsAckley; Alouette; Just another Joe
Palestine is a Greek word taken from the Bronze age Greek tribe called Philistines who were also part of the fabled Sea Peoples that fell upon Egypt in that era also.

Palestine would therefore should be applied more exactly to the coastal regions. In due time the whole region (then very Hellenized) was called Palestine. A geographic term which came to apply to ALL ethnic groups who lived within it. That is why the Arabs are called Palestinian Arabs. If Mexicans moved en mass to "Palestine" they would also have a right to be called Palestinian Mexicans.

PS: johnb838, what does this have to do with me?

8 posted on 05/07/2003 12:16:37 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: onedoug
ping
9 posted on 05/07/2003 12:23:33 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: Destro
Oh, I just know you like these threads....

I thought Palestine was what the Romans renamed Israel after they destroyed the Temple and dispersed the People. In order to be reminiscent of that vanished tribe that you referred to.
10 posted on 05/07/2003 12:28:31 PM PDT by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American Anger)
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To: johnb838
You thought wrongly.
11 posted on 05/07/2003 12:35:03 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: windcliff
"Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan."

"And Christy is the bimbo!"

12 posted on 05/07/2003 12:47:23 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Alouette; joesnuffy
Because the previous Hashemite monarch kicked his butt 33 years ago?

Actually unification with Jordan is a fundamental part of the Phased Plan of 1974, still an active component of PA ideology frequently referred to by Yasser (and Abu) in Arabic. It happens after the establishment of a "palestinian state", prior to driving the Jews into the sea. It doesn't necessarily have to be accomplished peacefully, as the Hashemites already know.

13 posted on 05/07/2003 12:52:19 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: Destro; johnb838; joesnuffy; Alouette
Palestinians defined by an expert.

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"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism.

Zahir Muhsein (PLO executive committee member)
"Trau" (Dutch newspaper),March 31, 1977

14 posted on 05/07/2003 12:56:11 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
He is correct in a sense. The claim also that Jordan is really - really Palestine is just false. Palestine is the old Greek territories on the coast.
15 posted on 05/07/2003 1:04:59 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
OK, you're the biggest anti-semitic racist I know of on this site, so I wanted you to see this. How 'ya like me now?
16 posted on 05/07/2003 1:05:01 PM PDT by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American Anger)
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To: johnb838
What? Prove it.
17 posted on 05/07/2003 1:13:01 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Just Kidding! I'll stop harassing you now. I'm sorry.
18 posted on 05/07/2003 1:17:57 PM PDT by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American Anger)
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To: joesnuffy
Why does Yasser Arafat and his PLO demand the creation of a second "Palestinian" state?

Because it's not about a "Palestinian" state; it's about the complete annihilation of the Jewish one.

19 posted on 05/07/2003 1:19:51 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Destro
He said it. What additional proof is needed?

Gee that statement of mine reminds me of something.

20 posted on 05/07/2003 1:20:10 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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