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Homosexual Agenda Platforms from 1972 - 2000 [plus other resources]
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Posted on 05/08/2003 2:55:08 PM PDT by Polycarp

THE 1972 GAY RIGHTS PLATFORM
(Formulated in Chicago, Illinois.)

FEDERAL:

1. Amend all federal Civil Rights Acts, other legislation and government controls to
prohibit discrimination in employment, housing, public accommodations and public
services. (1972 Federal-1)
2. Issuance by the President of an executive order prohibiting the military from excluding
for reasons of their sexual orientation, persons who of their own volition desire entrance
into the Armed Services; and from issuing less-than-fully-honorable discharges for
homosexuality; and the upgrading to fully honorable all such discharges previously
issued, with retroactive benefits. (1972 Federal-2)
3. Issuance by the President of an executive order prohibiting discrimination in the federal
civil service because of sexual orientation, in hiring and promoting; and prohibiting
discriminations against homosexuals in security clearances. (1972 Federal-3)
4. Elimination of tax inequities victimizing single persons and same-sex couples. (1972
Federal-4)
5. Elimination of bars to the entry, immigration and naturalization of homosexual aliens.
(1972 Federal-5)
6. Federal encouragement and support for sex education courses, prepared and taught by
Gay women and men, presenting homosexuality as a valid, healthy preference and
lifestyle as a viable alternative to heterosexuality. (1972 Federal-6)
7. Appropriate executive orders, regulations and legislation banning the compiling,
maintenance and dissemination of information on an individual's sexual preferences,
behavior, and social and political activities for dossiers and data banks. (1972 Federal-7)
8. Federal funding of aid programs of gay men's and women's organizations designed to
alleviate the problems encountered by Gay women and men which are engendered by an
oppressive sexist society. (1972 Federal-8)
9. Immediate release of all Gay women and men now incarcerated in detention centers,
prisons and mental institutions because of sexual offense charges relating to victimless
crimes or sexual orientation; and that adequate compensation be made for the physical
and mental duress encountered; and that all existing records relating to the incarceration
be immediately expunged. (1972 Federal-9)




STATE:

1. All federal legislation and programs enumerated in Demands 1, 6, 7, 8, and 9 above
should be implemented at the State level where applicable. (1972 State-1)
2. Repeal of all state laws prohibiting private sexual acts involving consenting persons;
equalization for homosexuals and heterosexuals for the enforcement of all laws. (1972
State-2)
3. Repeal all state laws prohibiting solicitation for private voluntary sexual liaisons; and
laws prohibiting prostitution, both male and female. (1972 State-3)
4. Enactment of legislation prohibiting insurance companies and any other state-regulated
enterprises from discriminating because of sexual orientation, in insurance and in
bonding or any other prerequisite to employment or control of one's personal demesne.
(1972 State-4)
5. Enactment of legislation so that child custody, adoption, visitation rights, foster
parenting, and the like shall not be denied because of sexual orientation or marital status.
(1972 State-5)
6. Repeal of all state laws prohibiting transvestism and cross-dressing. (1972 State-6)
7. Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent. (1972 State-7)
8. Repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into
a marriage unit; and the extension of legal benefits to all persons who cohabit regardless
of sex or numbers. (1972 State-8)

THE 1987 MARCH ON WASHINGTON



Explanation: The demands of the marchers come from brochures and pamphlets printed either by the national march office or its local committees. Actual demands are in bold print; underneath are quotes taken from an eight-page official statement, which elaborates on the demands.



1. The legal recognition of lesbian and gay relationships.

"Changes must be made in the courts and in the legislatures to provide homosexual couples the same privileges and benefits as heterosexuals who commit themselves to similar relationships. Changes must also be made in public opinion so that society recognizes and celebrates the diversity in family relationships."



The changes sought: rights of inheritance, visitation and custody rights, insurance rights, parenting and adoption rights. Also listed under this demand is a call for "social services for lesbian and gay youth [to] be greatly augmented." The March on Washington's steering committee demands that government-funded alternative housing, foster care, counseling, and legal aid be provided for homosexual youth.



In addition, the statement calls for increased "availability of safe sex information and health care services for lesbian and gay youth, sexuality and anti-homophobic curriculum in the schools, access to lesbian and gay publications in public and school libraries, and freedom to participate in related school activities."



2. The repeal of all laws that make sodomy between consenting adults a crime.

"Like Jim Crow laws of the American South which sanctioned and promoted racism, sodomy laws give the government's stamp of approval to individual people's hatred of lesbian and gay people. To single out lesbian and gay people for special prosecutorial attention stigmatizes all who are gay and lesbian whether or not they are ever arrested or charged with sodomy."



3. A Presidential order banning anti-gay discrimination by the Federal Government.

This refers to an Executive Order banning discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in federal employment, the military, federally-contracted private employment, and all federally-funded programs. "Eliminating employment discrimination based solely on sexual orientation in the government sector would send a signal to the rest of the country that this discrimination is immoral and should be illegal."



4. Passage of the Congressional lesbian and gay civil rights bill.

"The government should provide protection from discrimination based on sexual orientation in employment, public accommodations and education just as protection is provided on race, creed, color, sex, or national origin."



"The government should ensure all public education programs include programs designed to combat lesbian/gay prejudice ... Institutions that discriminate against lesbian and gay people should be denied tax exempt status and federal funding."



5. An end to discrimination against people with AIDS, ARC, HIV positive status, or those perceived to have AIDS.

Massive increases in funding for AIDS education, research and patient care. Money for AIDS, not for war. They demand that the Federal government fund "a massive AIDS education and prevention program that is explicit, culturally sensitive, lesbian and gay affirming and sex positive ... The government must provide safe sex education to all youth."



"Compassionate, comprehensive health care services must be available for patients without regard to ability to pay ... There must be a complete federal funding of all health and social services for all people with AIDS/ARC ... The federal government must underwrite and insure all research for a cure and a vaccine. Funding for these programs must come from the military budget, not already existing appropriations in the social services budget."



6. Reproductive freedom, the right to control our own bodies, and an end to sexist oppression.

"All people must have access to birth control ... Those who wish must have the right to artificial insemination by donor. Public and private institutions should support parenting by lesbian or gay couples ... All people must have access to free abortions and contraceptives on demand regardless of age." The march also called for passage of the Equal Rights Amendment.



7. An end to racism in this country and apartheid in South Africa.

"As members of the lesbian and gay movement, we too are affected by rising racism and sexism which oppresses People of Color and women; thereby the liberation of lesbians and gay is intricately linked to the struggle against racism, sexism and anti-Semitism. We realize that none of us are free until we are all free. We, therefore, call upon all of our sisters and brothers to actively confront racism and sexism on all levels both within our movement, and in the larger society. We demand an end to racist and sexist oppression. We demand an end to all social, economic, judicial and legal oppression of lesbians and gays, and people of every race, gender, class, ethnicity, faith, political ideology, transgenderal orientation and sexual orientation."

PLATFORM OF THE 1993 MARCH ON WASHINGTON FOR LESBIAN, GAY, AND BI EQUAL RIGHTS AND LIBERATION



Action Statement Preamble to the Platform



The Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender movement recognizes that our quest for social justice fundamentally links us to the struggles against racism and sexism, class bias, economic injustice and religious intolerance. We must realize if one of us is oppressed we all are oppressed. The diversity of our movement requires and compels us to stand in opposition to all forms of oppression that diminish the quality of life for all people. We will be vigilant in our determination to rid our movement and our society of all forms of oppression and exploitation, so that all of us can develop to our full human potential without regard to race, religion, sexual orientation/identification, identity, gender and gender expression, ability, age or class. (April 25, 1993)





PLATFORM DEMANDS AND RELATED ITEMS



1. We demand passage of a Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender civil rights bill and an end to discrimination by state and federal governments including the military; repeal of all sodomy laws and other laws that criminalize private sexual expression between consenting adults.



Passage of "The Civil Rights Amendment Act of 1991" (HR1430 & S574).

Repeal of Department of Defense directive 1332.14.

Repeal of laws prohibiting sodomy, cross-gender expression (dress codes) or non- coercive sexual behavior between adults.

Amendment of the Code of Federal Regulations to recognize same-sex relationships.

Passage of the Equal Rights Amendment.

Implementation of, funding for and enforcement of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1991.

Passage and implementation of graduated age-of-consent laws.



2. We demand massive increase in funding for AIDS education, research, and patient care; universal access to health care including alternative therapies; and an end to sexism in medical research and health care.



The provision of responsive, appropriate health care for people with disabilities, deaf and hard of hearing people.

Revision of the Centers for Disease Control definition of AIDS to include infections particular to women.

Implementation of the recommendation of the National AIDS Commission immediately.

A massive increase in funding for AIDS education, research and care -- money for AIDS, not for war. This money should come from the defense budget, not existing social services.

An increase in funding and research to provide an independent study of HIV infection in women, People of Color, Bisexuals, Heterosexuals, children, and women to women transmission.

Access to anonymous testing for HIV.

No mandatory HIV testing.

A cure for AIDS.

The development and legalization of a national needle exchange program.

Free substance abuse treatment on demand.

The re-definition of sexual re-assignment surgeries as medical, not cosmetic, treatment.

The provision of appropriate medical treatment for all transgendered people in prisons and hospitals.

An increase in funding and research for chronic illness, including breast ovarian, and other cancers particular to women.

The right of all people with chronic illness, including HIV/AIDS, to choices in medical treatment as well as the right to end such treatment.



3. We demand legislation to prevent discrimination against Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals and Transgendered people in the areas of family diversity, custody, adoption and foster care and that the definition of family includes the full diversity of all family structures.



The recognition and legal protection of the whole range of family structures.

An end to abuse and exploitation of and discrimination against youth.

An end to abuse and exploitation of and discrimination against older/old people.

Full implementation of the recommendations contained in the report of the Health and Human Services Task Force on Youth Suicide.

Recognition of domestic partnerships.

Legalization of same-sex marriages.



4. We demand full and equal inclusion of Lesbians, gays, Bisexuals and Transgendered people in the educational system, and inclusion of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender studies in multicultural curricula.



Culturally inclusive Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgendered Studies program; and information on abortion, AIDS/HIV, childcare and sexuality at all levels of education.

Establishment of campus offices and programs to address Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender students' special needs.

The ban of all discriminatory ROTC programs and recruiters from learning institutions.

An end to discrimination at all levels of education.



5. We demand the right to reproductive freedom and choice, to control our own bodies, and an end to sexist discrimination.



The right to control our bodies.

Unrestricted, safe and affordable alternative insemination.

An end to sterilization abuse.

That access to safe and affordable abortion and contraception be available to all people on demand, without restriction and regardless of age.

That access to unbiased and complete information about the full range of reproductive options be available to all people, regardless of age.



6. We demand an end to racial and ethnic discrimination in all forms.



Support for non-racist policies and affirmative action.

An end to institutionalized racism.

Equal economic opportunity and an end to poverty.

Full reproductive rights, improvement of pre-natal services, availability of alternative insemination for Lesbians and Bisexual women of color.

Repeal of all 'English Only' laws and restore and enforce bilingual education.

Repeal all discriminatory immigration laws based on race and HIV status.

A commitment to ending racism, including internalized racism, sexism and all forms of religious and ethnic oppression in our communities and in this country.

An end to the genocide of all the indigenous peoples and their cultures.

Restoration of the self-determination of all indigenous people of the world.



7. We demand an end to discrimination and violent oppression based on actual or perceived sexual orientation/identification, race, religion, identity, sex and gender expression, disability, age, class, AIDS/HIV infection.



An end to anti-Semitism.

An end to sexist oppression.

An end to discrimination against people with disabilities, deaf and hard of hearing people.

An end to discrimination based on sexual orientation in all programs of the Boy Scouts of America.

An end to economic injustice in this country and internationally.

An end to discrimination against prisoners with HIV/AIDS.

An end to discrimination against people with HIV/AIDS, and those perceived as having HIV/AIDS.

An end to consideration of gender dysphoria as a psychiatric disorder.

An end to hate crimes including police brutality, rape and bashing.

An end to censorship.

The Millennium March on Washington for Equality Agenda

April 30, 2000



One of the primary objectives of the Millennium March is to rally the GLBT community around a common political agenda. However, the process by which that agenda is established has been the subject of much controversy, and there is no single set of priorities about which all March participants agree. Here is a brief update on some of the issues most frequently proposed to be part of the March agenda:



Hate Crimes Legislation



Hate crimes laws provide harsher sentences for violent crimes motivated by bias based on gender, ethnicity, religion, or physical disability. In 22 states and Washington, D.C., sexual orientation is also a protected category. But the federal Hate Crimes Prevention Act is stalled in Congress -- partly because it includes protection for gay men and lesbians.



Right to Marry



It is not possible for gay or lesbian couples to get married legally anywhere in the United States. But there has been significant progress toward meaningful civil unions in recent months. Vermont's House and Senate passed a law that would extend many of the rights of marriage to same-sex couples. And the rabbis of Reform Judaism voted in March to recognize and conduct same-sex unions in their synagogues. However, the U.S. Congress and 31 states have passed "Defense of Marriage" acts that attempt to permanently restrict marriage to opposite-sex couples.



Employment Non-Discrimination



Although 11 states and many cities outlaw job discrimination based on sexual orientation, the vast majority of gay men and lesbians can be fired because of their sexuality. The federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act was voted down by the Senate in 1996 by a narrow 50-49 margin and never made it to the floor of the House. House Minority leader Dick Gephardt, D-MO, has promised to introduce it if Democrats retake control of the House, and Al Gore has pledged his support. George W. Bush opposes ENDA as "special treatment."



Military Service



Until the 1993 passage of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," gay men and lesbians were officially banned from the U.S. Armed Forces. Now they are only excluded if they are open about their sexuality. Most reports have concluded that DADT has worsened harassment for gay and lesbian servicemembers. Al Gore, both Clintons, and many prominent Democrats now believe that DADT has failed and that gay men and lesbians should be allowed to serve openly and equally.



Lesbian Health Issues



Historically, the practice of medicine has been based on an understanding of male anatomy. Women's health was an early, pressing concern of the feminist movement, and in the past decade, lesbians have organized to focus attention on their own specific health needs. Lesbians are less likely to seek health care (especially gynecological exams) than other women, and they are at higher risk for breast, cervical and ovarian cancers because they are less likely to have children by age 30. A 1999 study by the National Academy of Science concluded that extensive research into lesbian health is still desperately needed.



AIDS / HIV



HIV has not been receiving as much attention from the gay and lesbian community as it once did. Recently introduced drugs have greatly extended the life expectancies of HIV-positive people -- at least those who can afford the medications. Funding for AIDS research continues to be approved each year by Congress, but many believe the money is insufficient. Outside the gay and lesbian community, the biggest area of concern is Africa, where HIV prevention and treatment are still woefully inadequate.



LGBT People of Color



Misunderstood by both those who share their skin color and those who share their sexual preference, LGBT people of color -- while always judged first and foremost by race -- often feel caught between two worlds. The controversy over lack of diversity surrounding this March on Washington proved that this double exclusion has not gone away.



Adoption Rights



In every state except Florida, it is legal for gay men or lesbians to adopt children. Until 1990, however, only one parent was typically recognized by the government. Now about half of the states allow "second parent adoptions" -- the granting of joint parental responsibility to two unmarried people. There is no federal legislation on the issue, though some organizations are challenging gay adoption bans as unconstitutional.



LGBT Aging Issues



Gay culture has always privileged youth, but life goes on well past the hedonistic twenties and thirties. As the population in general is living longer, so are we. Senior gays and lesbians face unique challenges, both legal -- such as rights of succession -- and social, such as meeting people and growing older without the support of children.



LGBT Youth Issues



Gay and lesbian adolescents and teens have always been one of the most vulnerable groups to anti-gay prejudice. They are at a higher risk for suicide and are believed to have higher rates of drug and alcohol abuse. However, an increasing number of gay teens are coming out early in life and are fighting to make their schools a safe place for their peers. Of particular note has been the increasing number of gay-straight alliances formed in high schools -- a move that has received praise from many teachers' organizations, but that has drawn criticism from "pro-family" groups. At least one school district has banned extracurricular student groups altogether, since barring gay-straight alliances alone would be considered discriminatory.



Overturning Anti-GLBT Laws



The passage of California's anti-same-sex marriage Knight Initiative has galvanized the gay community to work against homophobic legislation across the country. The biggest priorities currently are similar "Defense of Marriage" laws in 31 states, as well as Florida and Utah's laws that create obstacles for gay families.



Right to Privacy/Choice



Many gay men and lesbians see a connection between reproductive freedom and gay rights. Both are based on the principle that the government should not -- and indeed cannot, because of the constitutional right to privacy -- pass laws that interfere in personal sexual and reproductive choices.



Global GLBT Issues



The United States falls somewhere in the middle of the spectrum with respect to gay rights. Many countries - most notably, western European nations and Australia -- are considered more progressive socially and politically on gay issues. Gay and lesbian activists are working on strengthening connections among countries to move the agenda along on a global scale.



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1 posted on 05/08/2003 2:55:08 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
Is this all you do all day? Look up homosexuality?
2 posted on 05/08/2003 2:57:00 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: .45MAN; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; Antoninus; aposiopetic; Aquinasfan; ...
The homosexual agenda is far far more than simply having the right to do to each other whatever they like in the privacy of their own bedroom.

Several of the "goals" of the homosexual community taken from their own literature:

1. Homosexuals "demand passage of a Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender civil rights bill" and the "repeal of all sodomy laws and other laws that criminalize private sexual expression between consenting adults."42

It is important to identify the far-reaching implications of the repeal of such laws against certain sexual behaviors or the implementation of laws protecting such sexual behavior as a "civil right." What would happen, for example, to a church that fired a minister because of homosexual activity? What would take precedence, the rights of the church to maintain that homosexuality, even between consenting adults, is morally wrong and that their ministers should be held to such a standard, or the "civil rights" of the minister to engage in such activity? It is not enough for the homosexual community to claim that all they want is for the activity not to be criminalized. To treat homosexuality as a civil right is to enable the courts to allow the activity wherever civil rights are protected.

2. Homosexuals "demand legislation to prevent discrimination against Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals and Transgendered people in the areas of family diversity, custody, adoption and foster care and that the definition of family includes the full diversity of all family structures."43 Furthermore, they favor giving NO preferences to normal mother-father parents in the adoption/foster care process.

3. Homosexuals "demand full and equal inclusion of Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals, and Transgendered people in the educational system, and inclusion of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender studies in multicultural curricula, to include mandatory pro-homosexual/ anti-"homophobia" training for staff and students, etc.

4. Homosexuals seem to favor leniency regarding pedophilia. According to one of San rancisco’s newspapers for homosexuals, NAMBLA’s [North American Man/Boy Love Association] position on sex is not unreasonable, jst unpopular. The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality."

5. Homosexuals seek "institute training for all personnel on the acceptance of homosexual or bisexual personnel in the military."

6. Homosexuals seek to undercut the social authority of churches. "We can undermine the moral authority of homophobic churches by portraying them as antiquated backwaters, badly out of step with the times and with the latest findings of psychology. …Such an unholy alliance [science and public opinion] has worked before [against institutional religion] on such topics as divorce and abortion. With enough open talk about the prevalence and acceptability of homosexuality, that alliance can work again here."47

7. Homosexuals seek to make their homosexuality more accepted by society. "The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights. …You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if you can get them to think that it is just another thing with a shrug of their shoulders, then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually won."48

These examples illustrate that acceptance of the homosexual agenda would restructure America in fundamental areas including public policy regarding sexual behavior, family issues such as family structure, custody laws, adoption, foster care, educational issues, government policy, and military.<

3 posted on 05/08/2003 2:57:37 PM PDT by Polycarp ("When a mother can kill her own child, what is left of the West to save?" - Mother Theresa)
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To: Qwerty
The deadliest battle yet for Conservatism: The Homosexual Juggernaut versus the Culture of Life.

"Even more posts on homosexuality...i'm curious as to why?"

4 posted on 05/08/2003 3:00:41 PM PDT by Polycarp ("When a mother can kill her own child, what is left of the West to save?" - Mother Theresa)
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To: Polycarp
wow
5 posted on 05/08/2003 3:03:57 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Polycarp
Yeah, I read those threads.
6 posted on 05/08/2003 3:11:50 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: Qwerty
All homo all the time internet.

This guy is a propagandists. He uses terms like Culture of Death, juggernaught, Culture of Life and his fellow travellers use gaystapo and the like to paint all homosexuals with the same brush as the extremists.

The individual people are the ones who suffer when you lump everbody behind the actions of activists and then use it to deny the rights of each person. Danger, Will Robinson.

7 posted on 05/08/2003 3:17:00 PM PDT by breakem
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To: Polycarp
I'm with you...not only do the pro-gay groups spread mis-information snd lies through the media but they teach the same garbage TO CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS KINDERGARTEN in the public schools.
8 posted on 05/08/2003 3:20:16 PM PDT by my4kidsdad
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To: Qwerty
Is this all you do all day? Look up homosexuality?

Someone has to stand up to the gay activist intimidators and their non-stop attack on children.

9 posted on 05/08/2003 3:21:51 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: Polycarp
Blah, blah, blah!!! Me, me, me!!! Blah, blah, blah!!!

LOOK AT US, DAMMIT! WE'RE GUMBY!

10 posted on 05/08/2003 3:22:36 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: breakem
You and Qwerty have no room to talk. All you do is target a conservative website all day and push your gay political agenda (as outlined above).
11 posted on 05/08/2003 3:23:23 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: my4kidsdad
pro-gay groups and teachers can't teach anything that school boards and parents won't allow. In our district we don't have this problem. And who is approving sexual info at the kindergarten level and why do they still have a job?
12 posted on 05/08/2003 3:23:41 PM PDT by breakem
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To: breakem
"All homo all the time internet."

I wonder how his wife feels about how he spends his time.

13 posted on 05/08/2003 3:24:28 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: RAT Patrol
I don't have an agenda and I don't know the other guy. I come to the hate-the-homo threads to proclaim their right to have sex with other adults without you having laws to prohibit it. Simple and clear. Please quote me accurately.

I've been a conservative since 1964 and on this site since August 98, so guess again why I came here.

14 posted on 05/08/2003 3:25:36 PM PDT by breakem
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To: breakem
So, apart from your dislike of the terms used, which parts of his links were spreading lies and misinformation?
15 posted on 05/08/2003 3:25:42 PM PDT by my4kidsdad
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To: Qwerty
You assume the wife part. Who knows? He doesn't answer my replies, so I don't ask him questions anymore.
16 posted on 05/08/2003 3:26:41 PM PDT by breakem
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17 posted on 05/08/2003 3:27:22 PM PDT by breakem
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To: breakem
You never sound conservative to me.
18 posted on 05/08/2003 3:27:39 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: my4kidsdad
Is that your answer to my 12?
19 posted on 05/08/2003 3:28:19 PM PDT by breakem
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To: RAT Patrol
"Someone has to stand up to the gay activist intimidators and their non-stop attack on children."

Oh please. Why don't you tell me all about the local homosexual non-stop attack on children? Point out the programs/people/groups that are targeting kids. Be specific.

20 posted on 05/08/2003 3:28:32 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: Polycarp
Many gay men and lesbians see a connection between reproductive freedom and gay rights. Both are based on the principle that the government should not -- and indeed cannot, because of the constitutional right to privacy -- pass laws that interfere in personal sexual and reproductive choices.

Did they skip biology?

They can demand all they want. Just more immaturity and brattishness. It's not going to get them anywhere.
21 posted on 05/08/2003 3:30:03 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: RAT Patrol
Never? Aw you just don't read enough. Get off these homo threads and get around you might learn something?

What's conservative about propagandizing and attacking individuals by putting treating them all as extremists.

22 posted on 05/08/2003 3:30:06 PM PDT by breakem
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To: breakem
pro-gay groups and teachers can't teach anything that school boards and parents won't allow. In our district we don't have this problem. And who is approving sexual info at the kindergarten level and why do they still have a job?

Go to the NEA website and check out what they say on the subject. If you believe it isn't happening because it is not reported in your newspaper, you might check out your newspaper's editorial stance on the subject. Most of them think it should be taught in school -- to kindergarteners.

23 posted on 05/08/2003 3:31:17 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: breakem
Ladies and gentlemen, and I mean that sincerely, the wife wants Japanese for dinner. I'll check in later and see if you can convert me to the "conservative" aganda on no rights for homosexuals.
24 posted on 05/08/2003 3:31:55 PM PDT by breakem
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To: breakem
School boards don't create the curriculum - the department of education does and the teacher's prepare the lesson plans. School boards deal with funding, etc. Many (maybe most) parents have no clue as to what SPECIFICALLY is being taught. California has K sex ed.
25 posted on 05/08/2003 3:32:54 PM PDT by my4kidsdad
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To: breakem
You crack me up criticizing the "homo threads" when you are a regular on the very same threads. Oh, that's right. You're from the liberal mindset that believes the only people who can discuss social issues are other liberals.
26 posted on 05/08/2003 3:33:36 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: breakem
Though Polycarp claims to be a foot doctor his interests, attention, and voluminous postings seem rivited on the crotch.
27 posted on 05/08/2003 3:33:41 PM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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To: breakem
"You assume the wife part. "

Yes, I did. I checked his profile page and he has a pic of what I assumed was him, his wife, and three kids.

28 posted on 05/08/2003 3:34:06 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: RAT Patrol
Goota run, just want to point out you are answering for the another poster who has things going on in kindergarten. I asked her about it and she didn't reply. They don't teach this crap in our district. If they do in your, do something about it or get your kids out. Focus on the decision makers and those responsible to the public not on the extremists who want them to allow it. Why is this so complicated. Think!
29 posted on 05/08/2003 3:34:29 PM PDT by breakem
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To: breakem; Qwerty
All homo all the time internet.....for your reading pleasure!!!!!!

Polycarp....GOOD POST!!!!!

30 posted on 05/08/2003 3:35:19 PM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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To: breakem
and then use it to deny the rights of each person.

Bullogna…they have the same rights as everyone else. But I reserve the right to deny a job to anyone based on his or her behavior. Especially them soccer players, anyone who plays the most boringest game in the world isn’t going to work for me…would you deny me this right?

31 posted on 05/08/2003 3:35:31 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: breakem
I defend my friends.
32 posted on 05/08/2003 3:35:44 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: my4kidsdad
re 25, not in the Lake Elsinore kindergartens. You need to put some pressure on or get the kids out. Later, gotta go have a heterosexual engagement with the bosslady.
33 posted on 05/08/2003 3:35:59 PM PDT by breakem
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To: RAT Patrol
"You and Qwerty have no room to talk."

This is a conservative board. Why should we not talk?

"All you do is target a conservative website all day and push your gay political agenda (as outlined above)."

What agenda do you feel I push? I'm not the one starting all these threads. All I do is counter some of the more blatant ridiculousness that is posted regularly here.

34 posted on 05/08/2003 3:36:58 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: breakem
pro-gay groups and teachers can't teach anything that school boards and parents won't allow.

Not if you live in San Fran so you're either a liar or just illinformed, which is it?

35 posted on 05/08/2003 3:38:15 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Qwerty
....has anyone asked you what the Q stands for in your user name??????????
36 posted on 05/08/2003 3:38:17 PM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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To: GrandMoM
"Polycarp....GOOD POST!!!!!"

Why did you address this post to me? Should have been to Polycarp.

37 posted on 05/08/2003 3:38:26 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: GrandMoM
"....has anyone asked you what the Q stands for in your user name??????????"

Yes. A lot of people think it has something to do with "queer", but it does not. Qwerty refers to the type of keyboard we're all using to exchange ideas on FR.

38 posted on 05/08/2003 3:39:39 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: breakem
If you were referring to me, I'm not a "her"....look at my name - my4kidsdad. I don't send my kids to the local public schools but am involved in both the public school board and the board of our private school. And no, this crap is NOT being taught in our district. But it is in a couple nearby districts, now at the 3rd & 4th grade levels.

I'd love to debate more but I'm going to catch a train to get home.
39 posted on 05/08/2003 3:39:46 PM PDT by my4kidsdad
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To: Qwerty
I don't care if you talk, but both of you joined this thread by attacking Polycarp. If you want to talk, talk. I do not call your comments to Polycarp "countering" anything. That's my only point for what I said.

Now, I have to leave, too. I'll read your response -- if there is one -- later. Bye.

40 posted on 05/08/2003 3:41:44 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: Qwerty
Why did you address this post to me? Should have been to Polycarp.....oh, gee, must have had a tear in my eye from laughing so hard at your post.

Well, I sent you another one that was for you. Does that make you feel better.

41 posted on 05/08/2003 3:43:26 PM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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To: Qwerty
Qwerty refers to the type of keyboard we're all using to exchange ideas on FR.

....you mean we are all using a keyboard called Qwerty? I'm not, it says Microsoft on my keyboard.

42 posted on 05/08/2003 3:46:57 PM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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"oh, gee, must have had a tear in my eye from laughing so hard at your post."

I just didn't understand why you addressed something to me that was for Polycarp. Assumed it was a mistake.

"Well, I sent you another one that was for you. Does that make you feel better."

I wasn't upset about the last post.

43 posted on 05/08/2003 3:55:16 PM PDT by Qwerty
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Preschool pride

"For the last decade or so, largely working beneath public or parental notice, a well-organized movement has sought to revolutionize the curricula and culture of the nation's public schools. Its aim: to stamp out 'hegemonic heterosexuality' — the traditional view that heterosexuality is the norm — in favor of a new ethos that does not just tolerate homosexuality but instead actively endorses experimenting with it. ... The educational establishment has enthusiastically signed on. What this portends for the future of the public schools and the psychic health of the nation's children is deeply worrisome. ...

"A 2002 [Gay, Lesbian and Straight Educational Network] conference in Boston held a seminar on 'Gender in the Early Childhood Classroom' that examined ways of setting 'the tone for nontraditional gender role play' for preschoolers. To help get the LGBT message across to younger children, teachers can turn to an array of educational products, many of them available from GLSEN. Early readers include 'One Dad, Two Dads, Brown Dad, Blue Dads'; 'King and King'; and 'Asha's Mums.' "

— Marjorie King, writing on "Queering the Schools," in the spring issue of City Journal

http://www.washtimes.com/culture/20030508-96501842.htm
44 posted on 05/08/2003 3:57:25 PM PDT by Ligeia (Those who beat their swords into ploughshares will work for those who don't)
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To: GrandMoM
"....you mean we are all using a keyboard called Qwerty?"

Yes.

"I'm not, it says Microsoft on my keyboard."

Suddenly, I'm reminded of my own grandmother.

If the top 6 letters on your keyboard read "qwerty", then you are using a qwerty keyboard.

45 posted on 05/08/2003 3:57:32 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: Polycarp
Available from Playthings Past:



Anatomically correct and precisely detailed,
these models measure a full 16 inches tall when assembled.
Also included is a fully-illustrated “Introduction to Anatomy” –-
a 12 page guide written in plain language by medical experts.
Each comes with a handy display stand. Boxed. By Skillcraft.




"Hey, kids! Don't forget to ask about the new government-approved assembly instructions!"
46 posted on 05/08/2003 3:57:36 PM PDT by eastsider (G'night :)
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To: Qwerty; Polycarp; breakem; RAT Patrol
Inoohr_org_index.htm This essay was printed in the February 15, 1987 issue of the homosexual newspaper Gay Community News by Michael Swift, and was reprinted in the February 15-21 1987 Congressional Record. EXCERPT
We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of you shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups, in your movie theater bathrooms, in your army bunkhouses, in your truck stops, in your all-male clubs, in your houses of Congress, wherever men are with men together. Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us. Women, you cry for freedom. You say you are no longer satisfied with men; they make you unhappy. We, connoisseurs of the masculine face, the masculine physique, shall take your men from you then. We will amuse them; we will instruct them; we will embrace them when they weep.
If you dare to cry faggot, fairy, queer, at us, we will stab you in your cowardly hearts and defile your dead, puny bodies.
There will be no compromises. We are not middle-class weaklings. Highly intelligent, we are the natural aristocrats of the human race, and steely-minded aristocrats never settle for less. Those who oppose us will be exiled. We shall raise vast, private armies, as Mishima did, to defeat you.
We shall conquer the world because warriors inspired by and banded together by homosexual love and honor are as invincible as were the ancient Greek soldiers. The family unit spawning ground of lies, betrayals, mediocrity, hypocrisy, and violence will be abolished. The family unit, which only dampens imagination and curbs free will, must be eliminated. Perfect boys will be conceived and grown in the genetic laboratory. They will be bonded together in a communal setting, under the control and instruction of homosexual savants.
We shall be victorious because we are fueled with the ferocious bitterness of the oppressed who have been forced to play seemingly bit parts in your dumb, heterosexual shows throughout the ages. We too are capable of firing guns and manning the barricades of the ultimate revolution. Tremble, hetero swine, when we appear before you without our masks!


This newest manifesto was found in the Miami Dade Press, in response to the Christian Coalition wanting to protect their children in public schools.

"Homosexuality must be spoken in your churches and synagogues as an honorable estate. You will be expected to offer ceremonies that bless our sexual unions.

"You will instruct your young people in homosexuality as well as heterosexual behavior. If any older people in your midst objects, you will deal with them sternly, making certain they renounce their ugly and ignorant homophobia or suffer public humiliation. You will make certain that all the prestige and resources of your institutions are brought to bear on the community, so that laws are passed "forbidding" discrimination against homosexuality and heavy punishments are assessed. We expect and demand the same commitment to us you made to Blacks and to Women.

"Finally, we will in all likelihood want to expunge a number of passages from your Scriptures and rewrite others, eliminating preferential treatment of heterosexual marriages and using words that will allow for favorable viewing of the homosexual.

"Warning! If all of these things do not come to pass quickly, we will subject orthodox Jews and Christians to the most sustained hatred and vilification in recent memory. We have captured the liberal establishment and the press. We have already beaten you on a number of battlefield.

(From a Save Dade Press Release)

This Version was printed in "The Advocate"

Steve Warren seems to want to rewrite the Bible, what do you think?

Recently, homosexual author Steve Warren told Christians what gays expect of them. In The Advocate, the nation's largest and most mainstream homosexual publication, he says: "Here are some of the things you will be expected to affirm. ...

1. Henceforth, homosexuality will be spoken of in your churches and synagogues as an 'honorable estate.'

2. You can either let us marry people of the same sex, or better yet abolish marriage altogether. ...

3. You will be expected to offer ceremonies that bless our sexual arrangements. ... You will also instruct your people in homosexual as well as heterosexual behavior, and you will go out of your way to make certain that homosexual youths are allowed to date, attend religious functions together, openly display affection, and enjoy each other's sexuality without embarrassment or guilt.

4. If any of the older people in your midst object, you will deal with them sternly, making certain they renounce their ugly and ignorant homophobia or suffer public humiliation.

5. You will also make certain that ... laws are passed forbidding discrimination against homosexuals and heavy punishments are assessed. ...

6. Finally, we will in all likelihood want to expunge a number of passages from your Scriptures and rewrite others, eliminating preferential treatment of marriage and using words that will allow for homosexual interpretations of passages describing biblical lovers such as Ruth and Boaz or Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. Warning: If all these things do not come to pass quickly, we will subject Orthodox Jews and Christians to the most sustained hatred and vilification in recent memory. We have captured the liberal establishment and the press. We have already beaten you on a number of battlefields. ... You have neither the faith nor the strength to fight us, so you might as well surrender now."

47 posted on 05/08/2003 4:00:26 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
Remedy, you consistently find great examples of the most lunatic fringe members' musings.

But try to remember that they are extreme fringe.

48 posted on 05/08/2003 4:06:31 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: Qwerty
If the top 6 letters on your keyboard read "qwerty", then you are using a qwerty keyboard.....well, I see the key letters aligned in a row on the left hand side, spell QWERTY, but, the name on my key board says MICROSOFT!

So I guess we are not all using QWERTY keyboards, just keys.

...I guess you just made a mistake in your posts that's interesting.

49 posted on 05/08/2003 4:06:38 PM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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To: GrandMoM
"So I guess we are not all using QWERTY keyboards, just keys."

You're using what is known as a "qwerty" keyboard... in your case, made by Microsoft. It is still a qwerty keyboard.

"I guess you just made a mistake in your posts that's interesting."

I tried to explain it in a way you could grasp, but you can't or won't back away from your silliness.

50 posted on 05/08/2003 4:14:38 PM PDT by Qwerty
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