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I am perplexed. How can they be dismissed for not performing miracles all in a couple of weeks? Garner arrived in Iraq on April 21!

I read earlier that there was a tug of war between Rumsfeld and Powell: Rumsfeld wanted Garner, and Powell backed Bremer. Could it be that Powell "won" and that's why they are changing an already implemented decision of having Garner in charge?

There is something behind the scenes that is going on here, which has nothing to do with how much they accomplished in 2 weeks. You don't fire someone that quickly.

I wonder what IS going on.

I also think it doesn't look good, when you recall the leaders you sent after a couple of weeks.

1 posted on 05/11/2003 12:21:26 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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Here is the link to the Washington Post article Reuters referenced:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40210-2003May10.html
2 posted on 05/11/2003 12:25:59 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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I don't mean to be talking to myself, but I am finding that the WP article confirms my guesses/speculation about this being about another battle between State & Defense Dept.

I just said:

"I read earlier that there was a tug of war between Rumsfeld and Powell: Rumsfeld wanted Garner, and Powell backed Bremer. Could it be that Powell "won" and that's why they are changing an already implemented decision of having Garner in charge?"

And afterwards I read the WP article, which has more detail than the Reuters article I posted. This is what the WP article says about this:

"The shortage of visible progress appears to have sparked consternation at the State Department, where officials argued that a civilian with diplomatic skills and foreign policy experience should coordinate reconstruction activities. The Defense Department chafed at that idea and insisted the program remain under military control. Ultimately, the State Department view won out at the White House on the grounds that having a civilian at the helm would inspire other nations to support the costly and complicated chore of transforming Iraq into a stable, democratic nation.

U.S. officials interviewed today said the U.S. presence in Iraq would likely become more assertive in coming weeks. The absence of strong leadership -- Iraqi or American -- is a subject of intense complaint among ordinary Iraqis, who are struggling with a lack of civil order after 35 years of authoritarian rule.

One senior American official in Baghdad said the U.S. team had been so concerned about being seen as an occupying power that officials were overly reluctant to exert their full authority."

I suggest reading the WP post article. Has much more detail.

One good thing about this, at least Barbara Bodine is being sent back as well.

3 posted on 05/11/2003 12:34:21 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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Interesting stuff bump! I wonder too.
4 posted on 05/11/2003 12:37:43 AM PDT by TEXOKIE
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Barbara Bodine, the American coordinator for central Iraq and the effective post-war mayor of Baghdad, will leave for Washington on Sunday to take a senior post at the State Department, the newspaper reported from Baghdad.

Incompetent people get kicked upstairs:

The man who knew. Last night Frontline broadcast a 90-minute documentary about John O'Neill, the FBI counterterrorism expert who had already connected most of the dots leading to the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks last year. For six years he obsessed about bin Laden's network, tracing the line that led from the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, through the embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998, through the plans to stage a terrorist millenium explosion at LAX on the eve of 2000, through the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen in 2000, to the summer of 2001 when the intelligence world again became aware that something big and awful was in the works.

But the US government would not let O'Neill do his job. O'Neill was known throughout the FBI as the go-to guy on bin Laden, but he was not made aware of the Arizona flight school FBI memos or the custody of the alleged "20th hijacker" Zacharias Moussaoui. Barbara K. Bodine, US ambassador to Yemen, denied his visa to return to investigate the Cole bombing. Tom Pickard, at one point interim director for the FBI, did everything in his power to silence and frustrate O'Neill. The compartmentalized bureaucrats simply could not tolerate a maverick investigator whose only motivation was protecting the country from terrorism. He was forced out of the FBI in the late summer of 2001.

In the ultimate tragic irony, O'Neill was killed in the World Trade Center a week after taking a new job as head of security -- of the World Trade Center.

Frontline does a good job of covering all the angles, including such details as the relevance of two of the hijackers who flew into the Pentagon on Flight 77. Their names were on O'Neill's short list of potential threats.


5 posted on 05/11/2003 12:44:35 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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The first time I saw Gerner on T.V. I knew he was wrong for the job. He looks like a guy you might see in a Denny's near Padre Island. Anyone representing this country overseas should have the common sense to wear a good suit and tie if not in a military uniform.
11 posted on 05/11/2003 2:40:38 AM PDT by illumini (AMERICA. Love her or leave her!)
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This gives a very mixed message as to "we know what we are doing" in transitioning the government of Iraq to something more sane and stable.
15 posted on 05/11/2003 5:41:36 AM PDT by joesbucks
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The 75th Exploitation Task Force has so far failed to find any of the suspected biological and chemical weapons that Bush used as a pretext to launch the war against Iraq.

Good ole Reuters never lets you down.

16 posted on 05/11/2003 5:45:04 AM PDT by jalisco555
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DoD wins the war and State Dept. gives away the victory. Any time the State Dept. becomes involved, the leftwingers win. Bush better hope Rumsfeld stays on until after the election, if he leaves, there will be much gnashing of teeth.
17 posted on 05/11/2003 5:47:36 AM PDT by cynicom
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We are beginning to sound like the retired arm-chair generals we all come to despise recently. Let's wait and see.
18 posted on 05/11/2003 5:47:51 AM PDT by Consort
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It seems through the eyes of the media that our people aren't doing *anything* in Iraq. 25% of *one* power station running in Baghdad, garbage in the streets, hardly anyone has running water, etc.

I refuse to believe that the Bush administration, who planned the war so well, didn't have a solid plan for post-war Iraq. They had plenty of time to plan for that, with all the bull____ going on in the UN. And I heard that they were planning on using former Iraqi soldiers to do most of the labor - but surely someone else can pick up garbage, etc.

Is a lot of stuff happening that we're not made aware of?

It makes me sad to think that we did such a good thing in freeing the Iraqis, and now we look inept. Esp when we're shuffling people around so early in the reconstruction.

21 posted on 05/11/2003 10:43:48 AM PDT by spookycc ("To see what is right and not to do it is cowardice." --Confucius)
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It is a Washington Compost artice interbred with a Reuters article.

Wait until we see the reality before jumping to conclusions.

It is obvious that the left wing mediots are quagmiring post Regime Change in Iraq. They will be as wrong on that as they were about the quagmire, thousands and thousands of body bags returning to America and not enough foot soldiers to win.
22 posted on 05/11/2003 10:50:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Free Republic, where leftist liars are exposed 24/7!)
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It took several years to rebuild Japan and Germany. We give Garner 3 weeks and then fire him?? Something doesn't make sense. GW does NOT excpect miracles in minutes as the public usually does, so what is the reason? Perplexing!!
26 posted on 05/11/2003 2:10:23 PM PDT by PISANO
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What a damned mess.
31 posted on 05/12/2003 8:52:46 AM PDT by onedoug
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You're ABSOLUTELY right! Something smells fishy . . . and Hitlery's nowhere around.
32 posted on 05/12/2003 8:56:00 AM PDT by geedee (Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.)
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Iraq is in chaos. The reconstruction effort in Afghanistan is widely considered to be a failure, with the Taliban a growing threat once again.

Why would anybody think that America could keep order in foreign cities, when are own, places like Detroit, Camden and Newark, are an international disgrace?
33 posted on 05/12/2003 6:13:40 PM PDT by Fulbright
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