Posted on 05/12/2003 8:37:48 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
Really. You seem awfully defensive and argumentative for someone who is laughing. If you profess no belief in God, what is all this hurting? You don't seem to be a very good atheist to let this get to you so much. A true atheist would not even bother with this thread as it would serve no purpose. Your rantings are more anti-Christian than anything else.
I have no intention of being anti-Christian and I hope I'm not sounding hysterical.
I simply believe that mixing government and religion is an extremely bad idea.
Government certainly has no calling to repress religion - freedom to exercise one's religion is one of our most important rights.
But it also has no calling to show favoritism to one religion over another, which is what I believe the school is doing.
I think some of our fellow Freepers take that as anti-Christian, but it is definitely not. Such lack of favoritism protects ALL religious folks. If we allow favoritism to creep in, Christians will find themselves at the mercy of majority rule.
Easy question. Because ALL the other religions (every single one of them, look it up) are based on YOU and what YOU do in this life. Christianity is the ONE religion that teaches that no person is good enough to enter into the presence of God and that by grace alone can you enter into heaven.
So just what is your religion and if it doesn't profess to have all the answers, then why follow it?
The truth is in the Bible, historicaly accurate, and Spiritually accurate.
As your self these three questions:
1. Was Jesus a Lunatic? Who is more of a lunatic, the lunatic himself or the Multitudes that followed witnessing the miracles and healings? If he was, then he was the most stupid person ever to commit himself to the most cruelest and humiliating death known to man. 2. Was Jesus a Liar? He claimed to be the Son of God, who can dispute that? He said he would rise on the third day, and he did... 3. Is Jesus Lord? If you answer no, then you must have to deal with this answer. For it is once man to die, then judgment. Jesus is at the Mercy Seat to judge mankind. All faiths believe in a judgment. They are a copy of the original Judge! Christianity is based on Christ crucified, buried and risen, for the forgivenss of sin in mankind, and a way to spend eternity with God the father in heaven. You don't have to believe in something for it to exist. It will anyway.
There is NO such thing as a one size fits all religion, not even Christianity is believed the same way by EVERY Christian,
The differences are mere differences in doctrine. ALL Christians belive the same basic tenements, that Christ was God incarnate who walked on earth, that he lived a sinless life so that His covenant of ultimate sacrifice could be fulfilled through His death, that he laid in the tomb for three days, and that He arose on the third day and is alive now, and that the only way to heaven is through Him..
Although Unitarian are not pagans, CUPPS is, which is where the information was attained.
Michael S.F. may be, since it's likely hard to freely and responsibly search for truth if you're willing to portray a major Western religion as a completely different religion to fulfill some nefarious agenda.
The error made was in shortening the name to "Unitarian Universalists 'assoctiation'" and omitting Pagans from the opening. No attempt was made to portray Pagans as anything other then the cult that they are. All words were from the "CUPPS" website referenced.
I will ignore the "nefarious agenda" slam, since it is based on a false premise and a misunderstanding.
Can you cite any examples of Unitarian Universalists not respecting Christians?
Again we are talking apples and oranges. The reference was made to Pagans, not to Unitarians. That was an error of omission, and not an attempt to falsely portray Unitarians, as being a 'bizarre religion'. Although I do not know all of the details of Unitarians, I have nothing at all against the religion and would consider them to be one of the many Bible based religions, which are wholly acceptable.
The reference to not respecting Christians, was to the specific couple in this posting, who are suing to prevent Christians from freely associating in an activity which is faith based.
I would compare this to devout Muslims who pray several times a day. If Muslim students can do this at a school, whould a lawsuit to stop this from happening, be considered a lack of respect for their faith? I believe it would be. And I would not support such a lawsuit.
So am I to research all forms of Paganism before I voice the opinion that I thinbk it is a bizarre cult? Get real. I picked a random Paganist website to confirm and illistrate my belief that Paganism is a cult religion, which exists on amongst the fringe members of society.
And you never did explain how the Principles and Purposes exclude members of other faiths from searching for truth and meaning, regardless if those who adhere to the Principles and Purposes are Pagan, Unitarian Universalist or any other sundry religion.
It is my opinion that this family, by filing a lawsuit, is aiding in preventing others from finding their form of truth through evangelical Christianity. If they really believe in a "Free and responsible" search for truth, by preventing the field trips they are indeed attempting to exclude others rights to expression of their own religion.
In looking back on this whole discussion it appears that the CUUPS page may heve cross linked to the Unitarian beliefs, or I may have been mistaken in my search under Pagans and some how got cross linked to Unitarians.
In which case then it seems a monumental mistake was made. I was under the impression that the listing I quoted from represented Pagan Philosophy. If it is indeed Unitarian philosphy, then I will with draw my comment regarding Unitarians.
It seems that the Unitarian beliefs are a bit more, abstract(?) then I had realised.
I propose eliminating government schools. Private schools somehow don't seem to have the same discipline problems.
Well, I admit the kids in MY private school are known to chase each other in the halls, but from the dialogue, it's a Civil War reenactment! We'd prefer they did it outside, but it's tornado season.
Cheers! Xy
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