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Clear target of the assault weapon law
The Washington Times ^ | May 12, 2003 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 05/12/2003 12:14:59 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:03:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

"The most critical improvement" to the federal "assault weapon" ban, according to the Violence Policy Center, "is to ensure that the term 'assault weapon' includes all guns that are, in fact, assault weapons." Don't think about that assertion too much; it might cause your head to explode.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: awb; bang; banglist
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1 posted on 05/12/2003 12:15:00 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The AWB renewal is DOA because Tom Delay will do his job.
2 posted on 05/12/2003 12:18:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
From semi-auto AK style military rifles....
To bolt-action 50 cal "sniper rifles"...
To 308 & 30-06 call-them-siper-rifles.
In roughly that order.

Whaddyabet?
3 posted on 05/12/2003 12:21:42 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (California! See how low WE can go!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
What's an Asphalt Weapon?
4 posted on 05/12/2003 12:24:46 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Smokers are people too, most are good people. But Will Rogers never met me.)
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To: bang_list
bang
5 posted on 05/12/2003 12:26:19 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The AWB renewal is DOA because Tom Delay will do his job.

Good to hear that the Hammer is on the people's side, but what about the President? If the Senate passes the bill, and the President is on the record as being in favor of it, will he pressure the House to do his bidding? Where does Hassert stand?

6 posted on 05/12/2003 12:27:15 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
Good to hear that the Hammer is on the people's side, but what about the President?

What is your objective?

To see the AWB die?

Or to have Bush et al beat their chests and bellow "Constitution... Second Amendment... Founding Fathers?"

You can't have both.

Once Bush et al show their hand the DemoncRATS have a clear field of fire.

7 posted on 05/12/2003 12:39:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
What is your objective?

A federal government that adheres to the Constitution. Officers in that government that respect their solemn oath to defend and protect same, from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

To see the AWB die?

As an unconstitutional vehicle for the government to oppress the citizenry, yes, I want it to die. I also want a president tossing shovel fulls of dirt on it, not promising to sign it should it be renewed.

Or to have Bush et al beat their chests and bellow "Constitution... Second Amendment... Founding Fathers?"

Yeah, chest beaters like Sam Adams and Patrick Henry, what did they ever accomplish... You think Bush is going to further a policy of killing of the AWB by advocating his personal support for it?

You can't have both.

I disagree.

Once Bush et al show their hand the DemoncRATS have a clear field of fire.

Bush is on record as saying he'll sign the bill. As with the CFR he's abdicating his responsibility. Is he trying to complete a 4 year term without ever using a veto? Where does Hassert stand? Is the Speaker of the House for or against the bill, seeing as how the House of Representatives remains the only component of government between the bill dying or being renewed?

8 posted on 05/12/2003 12:56:18 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
You can't have both.

I disagree.

I hadn't realized you were an experienced legislator.

How long have you been in politics?

What offices have you won?

What legislation have you gotten passed?

What legislation have you defeated?

10 posted on 05/12/2003 1:01:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: Joe Whitey
How often has the House or Senate been controlled by the same party as the President and either refuses to get major legislation that he supports to his desk so that he can sign it?

When you see Bush lobbying for the AWB renewal to hit his desk, you let me know.

Politics is a game. Those who don't know that continually lose and wonder why.

And those who think politics is a religion are idolators.

12 posted on 05/12/2003 1:11:34 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: Joe Whitey
What a lame response. It will get to his desk, and he will sign it just like he said.

And Tom Delay is just Bush's servant, doing his bidding? Is that what you are saying? Are you saying that Tom Delay is a liar?

The President is not in the legislative branch, in case you had not heard.

14 posted on 05/12/2003 1:27:01 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
When you see Bush lobbying for the AWB renewal to hit his desk

The simple act of saying he not only will sign it, but that he supports it, and sending not one, but two of his minions out to do so, certainly isn't lobbying against the bill, nor is it keeping your yap shut and the gun grabbers guessing.

15 posted on 05/12/2003 1:33:13 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Joe Whitey
He's a politician.

If no poliitician is to be trusted, then why are we having this discussion? Shouldn't you be fomenting an armed revolution or something?

17 posted on 05/12/2003 2:05:48 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I hadn't realized you were an experienced legislator.

What you haven't realized could fill a lot of books, but that's also beside the point.

How long have you been in politics?

Since I was 18

What offices have you won?

All the ones I've run for.

What legislation have you gotten passed?

All the ones I've put forward.

What legislation have you defeated?

All that I've voted against.

Now, having (temporarily I'm sure), put aside your distractions, do you know whether or not the Speaker of the House supports this legislation?

18 posted on 05/12/2003 2:05:58 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
In other words, you know nothing about politics except WHAT YOU WANT, just like a two year old.

Get lost.
19 posted on 05/12/2003 2:08:40 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Tom Delay will do his job."

I hope so, because Bush doesn't seem like he's got the guts to step up on this issue.

20 posted on 05/12/2003 2:12:19 PM PDT by newwahoo
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