Assault Weapons Ban : not any more - its way worse.

NRA ^

[OOPisforLiberals]

All you anti-AWB people : listen closely. The "extended" assault weapons ban would ban TONS of guns, including ALL semi-automatic shotguns, ALL shotguns that hold < 5 rounds, M1 Garand, Mini-14, ALL semi-autos that can have > 10 rounds with or without fixed magazine.

Gives the attorney general the ability to declare a gun "not sporting" and subsequently ban it.

That's right folks, its the big one. They want 'em all. -Still- feel playing complacent about them not taking away your guns? If this goes through, handguns are toast in <= 5 years. 30 caliber rifles next. Then, there's not much left.

Its bad.

[meenie]

All this threatening us just as we have a majority of Republicans in Congress and in the White House. Come on folks, shake the cobwebs out of your head and realize we better start screaming about a lot of things that even the Republican Congresscritters are doing as well as the White House.

[Crusader21stCentury]

Well if this comes to pass, I suggest that any of our fellow FReepers who are LEA should start looking for a new job.

[LocalYokel]

My Mini-14? Oh No! My .223 Ranch Model?

Currently it's a legal gun in California. Unless I snap on the folding stock, then it's illegal. Or if I use the stock with the pistol grip. Naturally that would be dangerous and illegal. But fear not! It takes over 30 seconds to swap the stock (no tools, too) so you folks are all safe!

Don't worry, I'm very carefull when I change stocks to prevent the gun from leaping up on it's own and shooting anyone. If I turn on NPR while changing stocks, it seems to help. But I occasionally need the increased rate of fire and lethality that a different stock gives a gun. </sarcasm>

[GunRunner]

Please let Bush grow some cajones on this one.

[in the Arena]

NRA-ILA Updates and Alerts

Most Sweeping Gun Ban Ever Hits Congress:
Clinton Ban "Re-enactment" Targets Millions More Guns!!!

As we predicted, the anti-gunners have begun the push to further expand the Clinton gun ban of 1994. Not content with merely re-authorizing the ban, Reps. John Conyers (D-Mich.) and Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) have drafted legislation that bans millions more guns! It's a giant step closer to the goal stated by Clinton ban sponsor Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who said on CBS's 60 Minutes: "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them, Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in, I would have done it." Toward that goal, Conyers/McCarthy would:

• Ban every gun made to lawfully comply with the Clinton ban. The Clinton ban arbitrarily dictated the kinds of grips, stocks and attachments that new guns could have. Manufacturers complied. New guns were made to conform to the Clinton restrictions. Now prohibitionists want to ban the new guns, too.

• Ban guns the Clinton legislation expressly exempted from prohibition. This includes Ruger Mini-14s, Ranch Rifles, and .30 Caliber Carbines, and entire classes of guns, including fixed magazine rifles, as well as shotguns that hold under five rounds.

• Ban guns widely used for target shooting. It bans the three center-fire rifles most commonly used for marksmanship competitions: the Colt AR-15, the Springfield M1A, and the M1 "Garand."

• Ban all semi-automatic shotguns: Remingtons, Winchesters, Benellis, Berettas, etc., widely used for hunting, trap, skeet, and sporting clays, by banning their receivers (main component).

• Ban guns for defense. Bans any semi-automatic rifle or shotgun any U.S. Attorney General one day claims is not "sporting," even though self-defense is a fundamental right and the federal constitution, the constitutions of 44 states, and the laws of all 50 states recognize the right to use guns for defense.

• Ban 68 named guns (Clinton ban named 19 guns); Ban parts used to repair or refurbish guns, including frames or receivers; Ban importation of ammunition magazines exempt under Clinton ban; Ban private sales of millions of guns, their frames and receivers, and their parts; Ban semi-automatic rifles under 30" long (useful for home defense); Ban all semi-automatic rifles that can hold more than 10 rounds.

• Ban guns rarely used in crime. State and local law enforcement agency reports have always shown that guns on the Clinton and Conyers/McCarthy ban lists have never been used in more than a small percentage of violent crime. The Congressionally-mandated study of the Clinton law concluded that guns it banned "were never used in more than a fraction of all gun murders." But even if they were, are the rights and liberties of law-abiding citizens to be dictated by the acts of criminals?

• Begin "backdoor" registration. Requires manufacturers of banned guns, frames, receivers, and parts to report the names of their dealers, and requires dealers to report any of those parts they have in stock. The next step is obvious-demanding the names of gun owners who buy those parts.

Please contact your U.S. Representative at (202) 224-3121 or by using the "Write Your Representatives" feature and urge them to oppose any attempt to keep alive the Clinton gun ban.

Posted: 5/10/2003 8:34:12 AM

[The KG9 Kid]

"... Well if this comes to pass, I suggest that any of our fellow FReepers who are LEA should start looking for a new job."

Revised:

Well if this comes to pass, I suggest that many of our fellow elected Republicans who are in Washington DC should start looking for a new job.

[WhiteGuy]

I'm confused.......................

Is this the compassonate or the conservative part?



RON PAUL 2004

[Travis McGee]

When I took the folding / pistol grip stock off my Mini-14 and put the wood stock back on, the muzzle velocity dropped from 3,000fps to under 100fps.

Now I can swat the slugs out of the air like tossed peanuts. Totally harmless.

[chainsaw]

Bush has said he would sign this bill if it gets to his desk. Tom DeLay says it has no chance of passing. But, I don't think Bush should have said this because it maght persuade some republicans to vote for it if the president is behind it. This could be the one issue that prevents Bush from a second term. You just do not want to mess with a voting block of 5 million + voters. he NRA is not the only pro-gun organization.

[Travis McGee]

That's a good chunk of my novel: encouraging politicians to look for other work.

[philetus]

"All this threatening us just as we have a majority of Republicans in Congress and in the White House."


Majority of Repubs isn't going to change things much.

Most of them want the guns gone too.

Polititians = elite = aspiring rulers of the known universe.

[Gunslingr3]

bang

[toddst]

Bush has said he would sign this bill if it gets to his desk.

This was a mistake to say, but I'll cut the man some slack. George W. was given bad advice on this. The bill won't reach his desk.

[45Auto]

This bill, if passed, will come to the President's desk barely one month before the general election; what a "poison pill" that would be.

[Ajnin]

Well if this comes to pass, I suggest that any of our fellow FReepers who are LEA should start looking for a new job

Why?

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

The 1968 Gun Control Act became law when the Dems loaded it with MONEY for each police department. One local police department actually received $150.00 from the Government! That is one hundred and fifty dollars to fight crime. The Congress fell all over themselves to line up for this PORK.

The Assault Weapons Act became law when the Dems loaded it with promises of MONEY for more police so the congress fell all over themselves lining up for more PORK.
Look for them to load up this new act with more BRIBES, er, I mean PORK to get the next ban passed.

[Jaxter]

bump

[yarddog]

They are doing what they have done time and again.

They start out with a bunch of ridiculous demands, then agree to compromise and only ban a little. This way the so-called pro gun congress critters can say they voted against the gun ban and only let the bans through they had to allow. "It was vote to ban those assault rifles or let them ban all semi-auto's."

Of course in a real compromise each side gives up something. In the congress a compromise on gun control means the controllers don't give up anything. They just don't get all their demands. After a few more "compromises" they do have all their goals met.

[OOPisforLiberals]

Frankly, I don't see any way to avoid it at this point. The momentum is far too big. Indoctrination of kids, California and Illinois forging ahead with massive bans, and now this. The direction here is clear, and it seems truly unstoppable. Maybe delayable. But in my lifetime, I fully expect to see well-near everything banned (I'm 27).

It is seriously depressing.