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To: jgrubbs
Lee wrote in an 1865 letter that the best relation of white and black was that of master and slave. He really gets a much better press than he deserves.

Walt

7 posted on 05/13/2003 6:23:09 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Be copy now to men of grosser blood and teach them how to war!)
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Walt, we have had many discussions on these issues. I can never change your way of thinking and you can never change mine. This is an issue that we will have to just agree to disagree about, there are many other issues that we probably agree with each other 100%. I am proud to have the portraits of Robert E. Lee and Thomas Jonathan "Stonewall" Jackson hanging in my office at home.
12 posted on 05/13/2003 6:29:55 AM PDT by jgrubbs
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Shut up Wlat.
18 posted on 05/13/2003 6:36:10 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD)
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Well, in that case we cannot have the name of ANY black person since blacks were the ones that CAPTURED slaves, SOLD, slaves, and STILL OWN SLAVES!

So there put your PC cr*P up where it came out of.
21 posted on 05/13/2003 6:37:42 AM PDT by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Whether it was right or wrong we have to remember that that's just how people thought back then. In the North and the South Walt, not just the South. It burns me up to see you and your crew alway's preaching about the South even though the North was just as guilty. I guess what bothers me most is the way they go about changing history to fit their P.C. conspiracy's.
75 posted on 05/13/2003 7:20:15 AM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: WhiskeyPapa
"Lee wrote in an 1865 letter that the best relation of white and black was that of master and slave. He really gets a much better
press than he deserves.

Walt"


"I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality
between the white and black races," he announced in his
Aug. 21, 1858, debate with Stephen Douglas. "I, as well as
Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong
having the superior position." And, "Free them [slaves] and
make them politically and socially our equals? My own
feelings will not admit of this. We cannot, then, make them
equals."
Lincoln gets a MUCH better press than he desreves
128 posted on 05/13/2003 7:58:15 AM PDT by ConstitutionalConservative
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Lee wrote in an 1865 letter that the best relation of white and black was that of master and slave. He really gets a much better press than he deserves.

The Demonrats have taken that advice to heart.
208 posted on 05/13/2003 9:02:58 AM PDT by CyberSpartacus
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To: WhiskeyPapa
He really gets a much better press than he deserves

Sort of like you huh?

211 posted on 05/13/2003 9:14:43 AM PDT by wardaddy (Lost in a Roman...wilderness of pain, and all the children are insane)
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To: WhiskeyPapa; jgrubbs
Lee wrote in an 1865 letter that the best relation of white and black was that of master and slave.

Quit spreading lies and half-truths, Walt. That letter you refer to was actually a proposal by Lee to the CSA Congress to begin an emancipation program in exchange for military service.

Only a Lincoln-worshipping south hater of your caliber and dishonesty could take a letter where Lee advocated emancipation and turn it into praise of slavery.

370 posted on 05/15/2003 2:02:51 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Yep there's Walt and his drivel again
384 posted on 05/15/2003 2:41:11 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (I AM the NRA and I VOTE!!!)
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Lee wrote in an 1865 letter that the best relation of white and black was that of master and slave. He really gets a much better press than he deserves.

Hello Walt,

I was under the impression that was a much earlier letter.

As early as 1856 Lee was on record as indicating his belief that slavery was in the natural course of eventual extinction.

As to the larger point of his stance on race relations: I wonder what your opinion is of Lee's taking of communion with the black parishioner in St. Paul's Episcopal shortly after Appomattox. Consensus was fairly universal that it was regarded as a surprising action which virtually no other Richmonder would have dared.

I have had my share of run-ins with the neo-confederates here. But unless your last name is El-Amin or Connally I think the universal educated consensus is that Lee was a man of great integrity and charity who well merited his reputation.

Lee single-handedly set the example for peaceful reconciliation with the north against the instincts of Davis and a considerable part of the Confederate general staff (to say nothing of the populace). Had he not done so, this would be a far different country today. We owe him no small thanks for that.

455 posted on 05/16/2003 11:14:30 AM PDT by The Iguana
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To: WhiskeyPapa
WhiskeyPapa

Whiskey = Soviet Class Submarine

Papa = Soviet Class Submarine

I think your handle says it all about your views

468 posted on 05/16/2003 7:52:17 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: WhiskeyPapa

The horribly racist council patch. Boys who wear this strip grow up to be KKK members and skinhead Nazis.

503 posted on 04/02/2004 3:03:24 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Can you tell me your source for that comment? EVERYTHING I have read shows Lee to be a kind, God-fearing, Christian man who DID NOT believe in slavery. Now US Grant, on the other hand, was the one who owned slaves before, during, and AFTER the war of northern aggression. I'm just curious as to where you get your information Walt
513 posted on 05/02/2004 11:36:48 AM PDT by DakotaDeacon (Donnette)
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