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The Islamic Game plan
Posted on 05/18/2003 7:08:07 AM PDT by judicial meanz
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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator
To: judicial meanz
Ok, I'll accept your thesis, I too think Islam is trying to conquer the world. What affect would taking out all their holy sites (with extreme prejudice) have on their world outlook?
To: cardinal4
I like President Bush, but
I take issue with issues and this was one of the first that I have a BIG problem with him on. CFR was another.
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posted on
05/18/2003 5:18:14 PM PDT
by
TLBSHOW
(the gift is to see the truth)
To: umgud
"Not all Muslims actively persue such ideals"
Not all Americans join the service and go to war.
"The American Muslims and many around the world condemmed 9-11, but, but, but, but, but said we provoked or caused it and while they didn't agree with it, they could certainly understand why the perps did it."
The important thing is to engulf the world in crises.
"As Islam grows in America, so too will conflict."
When Islam is weak, it keeps a low profile.
When it gets strong, it attacks all non-muslims.
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posted on
05/18/2003 5:29:11 PM PDT
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
To: judicial meanz
I don't believe for a second that Islam is a religion of peace.
If a Islamic army started killing all the non-muslims in, let's say, New York, you can bet the "peaceful" muslims would join in.
If for nothing else, self preservation.
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posted on
05/18/2003 5:33:11 PM PDT
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
To: garden center and nursery
Your tagline's a 10x. Uhhh? I'm not parsing this. HeLp?
-Jay
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posted on
05/18/2003 6:07:04 PM PDT
by
Jay D. Dyson
(When the smoke cleared, the terrorist was over there...and over there...and over there...)
To: Former Proud Canadian
What affect would taking out all their holy sites (with extreme prejudice) have on their world outlook?
If past history is any guide, they went into a two hundred year collective depression after Charles Martel whipped them in France.
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posted on
05/18/2003 7:50:30 PM PDT
by
judicial meanz
(Audaces Fortuna Juvat)
To: TLBSHOW
"So now the question remains....WHY?"
All I can do is speculate, but I believe it has a little to do with the Islamic States and oil embargos. Another feasible reaon is to prevent an outright regional war.
Its a politically pragamatic solution, a morally bankrupt policy, and it sure isnt even near the truth.
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posted on
05/18/2003 7:55:57 PM PDT
by
judicial meanz
(Audaces Fortuna Juvat)
To: TLBSHOW
Well, I had a problem with CFR as well, but not this issue. The President cant talk bad about muslims publicly, although he might agree with us. The pres has to maintain some semblance of diplomacy...
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posted on
05/18/2003 8:01:54 PM PDT
by
cardinal4
(The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
To: judicial meanz
750 AD to circa 11th Century- Period of Islamic stagnation that ends with the crusades. The crusades once again provoke the Islamic forces to conquest. Interesting telescoping of a fascinating period.
It leaves out a good amount of the colorful means Islam had of expanding.
And the impression that the crusades provoked an awakening of the brutal Muslim means of expansion is humorous.
The Crusades were a response to muslim brutalities: typically defenseless towns were razed, totally destroyed. Women and children taken for the slave markets, and men and other "useless" persons killed on the spot.
Grab any of the dozen books available to fill in these gaps.
Fascinating reading.
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posted on
05/18/2003 8:42:05 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
To: judicial meanz
Islam is not a religion of peace. Bush is wrong on this one
To: McGavin999
Define Religion.
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posted on
05/18/2003 8:46:21 PM PDT
by
Cool Guy
(In God We Trust.)
To: judicial meanz
When will Western leaders publicly discuss what they already know: That Islam is a phony religion, and ridicule the extremist homicide bombers notion of 72 virgins waiting for them in Paradise, as just one absurdity.
When will a credible journalist or politician ask someone from CAIR or other Islamic extremist group if they truly believe that Allah will provide 72 virgins to an individual who murders innocent people in cold blood?
And if that fundamental tenant of Islam is a hoax, then how can they believe anything about their religion?
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posted on
05/18/2003 9:16:05 PM PDT
by
StopGlobalWhining
(Vote Bush '04 - Extend "assault weapons" ban - Support Open Borders - S-517 US Kyoto)
To: cardinal4
use your brain, that God gave you, to question things! I think it's plainly obvious even to a 5 year old that Islam is evil, pure evil.
To: judicial meanz
I keep hearing that Islam is a religion of peace from elected officials and the big media, but I fail to see it. With the United States and Israel constantly under attack by Islamic radicals, that argument fails to hold water. Allow me to explain...those terrorists are but a tiny handful of Muslims...the rest are totally peaceful and love America and all the Jews like brothers. Just a handful are not very nice. Like the 40,000 in Iraq who gathered to hear their Iman call for terror acts against America...like I said just a "handful".
Do you understand now? You must have missed Peter Jennings. Please watch regularly to learn the truth. Now, move along.
To: McGavin999
When Islam is practiced as a religion, it is protected by US law. However, when it wanders into the political, it is no longer protected.Therein lies the conundrum; Islam can never be practiced as "just" a religion.
The religious and the military/political are homogenized into an unseperable poison mix.
There is no arabic word for "country". Only dar al harb, the to be conquered, dar al Islam, the world of Islam.
Something of Islam might evolve into a religion, but as it stands now, and as it has existed for 1400 years, a religion-only Islam is literally an impossibility.
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posted on
05/18/2003 10:21:49 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
Comment #37 Removed by Moderator
Comment #38 Removed by Moderator
To: Publius6961
Your point is very well taken. I only did a general reading, and I will take your advice to heart.
I wasnt trying to say that the Crusades provoked the Islamic frenzy to resume expansion, but I can sure see how I wrote that to make it look like I did. That was simply an error.
The Pope actually called the Crusades to prevent further Islamic expanision.
Thanks for the correctons!
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posted on
05/19/2003 5:01:23 AM PDT
by
judicial meanz
(Audaces Fortuna Juvat)
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