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Bad Jurors: 114 And Counting
the sierra times ^ | 4/24/03 | Carl F. Worden

Posted on 05/19/2003 5:54:23 AM PDT by runningbear

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To: oceanperch
I think the biggest crime in humanity's existence -- the one that most deserves the death penalty -- is the formatting of the article you posted.
21 posted on 05/19/2003 6:28:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz ( "People that quote themselves in their taglines bother me." - Lazamataz)
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To: runningbear; RGSpincich
Good Morning to you both. In that picture you posted runningbear, Scott must have fired off a big stinker, everyone but Scott looks like their about ready to pass out from the smell.
22 posted on 05/19/2003 6:33:33 AM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: runningbear
Perfect! LOL!

Notice the likeness?

This thread is going to the dogs

23 posted on 05/19/2003 6:33:33 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: runningbear; RGSpincich
Hey, what was that Trade Corp address I gave ya? Check this story out, is that the addy?

I'm at work so I don't have that info...;o(

Fire engulfs downtown offices


25 posted on 05/19/2003 6:36:57 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: MaggieMay
LOL....
26 posted on 05/19/2003 6:38:09 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: RGSpincich
heehee....;o)
27 posted on 05/19/2003 6:38:27 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
The boats are out bright and early today.
28 posted on 05/19/2003 6:39:59 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: runningbear
Bad Jurors?

What kind of moron would blame the jurors?
OK maybe some juries... but all of them?

I would be curious of one other itty bitty omitted fact:
How many of the 114 were previously accused of murder?

29 posted on 05/19/2003 6:43:29 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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To: runningbear
MORE LACI PLEASE! I JUST CAN'T GET ENOUGH NEWS ON LACI!

WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?! MORE LACI PLEASE!
30 posted on 05/19/2003 6:43:43 AM PDT by paulklenk
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To: Lazamataz
It was the magic not me.
31 posted on 05/19/2003 6:45:12 AM PDT by oceanperch
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To: runningbear
Food for thought:

In cases where the evidence is the strongest, a death penalty is less likely to be handed down.

First of all, good evidence will lead down the plea-bargin route, where the (guilty) defendant is likely to confess in exchange for life in prison.

Secondly, securing a jury conviction against an innocent person is more likely to lead to a death penalty because the defendant is "unrepentant" in the minds of the jury.

32 posted on 05/19/2003 6:46:19 AM PDT by jae471
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To: Lazamataz
"OJ did a couple of them.

We were a team."


So the glove was yours....hmmmm
33 posted on 05/19/2003 6:48:10 AM PDT by Beck_isright (When Senator Byrd landed on an aircraft carrier, the blacks were forced below shoveling coal...)
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To: runningbear
I never relized how many State prisons you guy have.

Avenal State Prison (4)
Level 2
PO Box 39, Avenal, CA 93204
(559) 386-0587 Personnel x5082

California Correctional Center (2)
Levels 1, 2, 3
PO Box 790, Susanville, CA 96130
(530) 257-2181 Personnel x1154

California Correctional Institution (5)
Levels 1, 2, 4
PO Box 1031, Tehachapi, CA 95831
(661) 822-4402

California Institution for Men (3)
Level 1
PO Box 128, Chino, CA 91710
(909) 597-1821 Personnel x2264

California Institution for Women (2)
Levels 1, 2, 3, 4
PO Box 6000, Corona, CA 91718
(909) 597-1771 Personnel x5254

California Medical Facility (17)
Levels 1, 2, 3
PO Box 2000, Vacaville, CA 95696-2000
(707) 448-6841 Personnel x3154

California Men's Colony (8)
Levels 1, 2, 3
PO Box 8101, San Luis Obispo, CA 93409-8101
(805) 547-7900 Personnel x7946

California Rehabilitation Center (1)
Level 2
PO Box 1841, Norco, CA 91760
(909) 737-2683 Personnel x2145

California Substance Abuse Treatment Facility & State Prison (7)
Levels 2, 3, 4
PO Box 7100, Corcoran, CA 93212
(559) 992-7100

California State Prison, Corcoran (18)
Levels 1, 2, 4, SHU
PO Box 8800, Corcoran, CA 93212-8309
(559) 992-8800 Personnel x5098

California State Prison, Los Angeles County (9)
Levels 1, 2, 4
44750 - 60th St West, Lancaster, CA 93536-7620
(661) 729-2000

California State Prison, Sacramento (21)
Levels 1, 4
PO Box 29, Represa, CA 95671
(916) 985-8610 Personnel x5333

California State Prison, Solano (3)
Levels 2, 3
PO Box 4000, Vacaville, CA 95696-4000
(707) 454-3249 Personnel x5552

California State Prison, Wasco (3)
Levels 1, 3
PO Box 8800, Wasco, CA 93280-8800
(661) 758-8400

Calipatria State Prison (2)
Levels 1, 4
PO Box 5001, Calipatria, CA 92233-5001
(760) 348-7000 Personnel x5200

Centinela State Prison (2)
Levels 1, 3, 4
PO Box 731, Imperial, CA 92251
(760) 337-7900 Personnel x5224

Central California Women's Facility (3)
Levels 1, 2, 3, 4, COND
PO Box 1501, Chowchilla, CA 93610-1501
(559) 665-5531 Personnel x5040

Chuckawalla Valley State Prison (2)
Level 2
PO Box 2289, Blythe, CA 92226
(760) 922-5300 x5210

Correctional Training Facility (4)
Levels 1, 2
PO Box 686, Soledad, CA 93960-0686
(831) 675-2411 Personnel x2247
Deuel Vocational Institution (3)
Levels 1, 3
PO Box 400, Tracy, CA 95378-0400
(209) 835-4141 x4564

Folsom State Prison (2)
Levels 1, 2
PO Box 71, Represa, CA 95671
(916) 985-2561 Personnel x4533

High Desert State Prison (2)
Levels 1, 3, 4
PO Box 400, Standish, CA 96128
(530) 251-5100 Personnel x5631

Ironwood State Prison (3)
Levels 1, 3
PO Box 2229, Blythe, CA 92226
(760) 921-3000 Personnel x5403

Mule Creek State Prison (7)
Levels 1, 3, 4
PO Box 409099, Ione, CA 95640
(209) 274-4911 Personnel x5814

North Kern State Prison (4)
Levels 1, 3
PO Box 567, Delano, CA 93216-0567
(661) 721-2345 Personnel x5325

Northern California Women's Facility (3)
Levels 2, 3
PO Box 213006, Stockton, CA 95213-9006
(209) 943-1600

Pelican Bay State Prison (21)
Levels 1, 4, SHU
PO Box 7200, Crescent City, CA 95532-7200
(707) 465-1000 Delegated Testing Office x5535

Pleasant Valley State Prison (2)
Levels 1, 3
PO Box 8500, Coalinga, CA 93210
(559) 935-4900
R. J. Donovan Correctional Facility (5)
Levels 1, 3
480 Alta Road, San Diego, CA 92179
(619) 661-6500

Salinas Valley State Prison (7)
Levels 1, 4
PO Box 1020, Soledad, CA 93960-1020
(831) 678-5500 Personnel x5584

San Quentin State Prison (6)
Levels 1, 2, COND
San Quentin CA 94964-1086
(415) 454-1460


Sierra Conservation Center (2)
Levels 1, 2, 3
PO Box 497, Jamestown, CA 95370
(209) 984-5291 x5356


Valley State Prison for Women (3)
Levels 1, 2, 3, 4
PO Box 99, Chowchilla, CA 93610-0099
(559) 665-6100 Personnel x5536
34 posted on 05/19/2003 6:51:04 AM PDT by oceanperch
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To: runningbear
Without actually coming out and writing it, they believe it better to let one innocent man hang, than for ten guilty to go free.

Another pyschic writer. To make his point he creates a pretend bunch of people that he can villify. Sorry Charlie, most everyone has said they need to see more evidence before starting the fatal drip. Typical Sierra Times article.

He goes on to accuse jurors in the cases he cites as being immoral and "flippantly" renedering death sentences. I'd say he's the one with the disregard for the truth. Wonder how many of those jurors he actually talked to before he sentenced them?

36 posted on 05/19/2003 6:52:21 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: 7thson
Not a big problem? In the most recent Virginia case DNA proved beyond a doubt that a man who had been on death row for years and had come within hours of execution was not guilty. Innocent. And if I remember correctly it was one of those pesky procedural delays that actually kept him from being put to death. My guess is that he thought that was a VERY, VERY big problem.
37 posted on 05/19/2003 6:55:16 AM PDT by kegler4
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To: 3D-JOY
OK, so maybe in some cases it just showed that the evidence that convicted them was false, not that they were necessarily innocent. So what? I thought that in our system you were supposed to be convicted on the evidence, not just on "Oh, he seems like a bad guy or he's committed crimes in the past."
38 posted on 05/19/2003 6:57:41 AM PDT by kegler4
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To: runningbear; Lazamataz
Think of all the electricity that's been saved!
39 posted on 05/19/2003 6:59:48 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: 3D-JOY
YOU make a very, very, very excellent point!!!
40 posted on 05/19/2003 7:00:58 AM PDT by Devil_Anse ("Not proved" is not the same as "innocent")
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