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Tee Hee Time: What John F. Kennedy did was despicable
NRO ^ | 5/20/2003 | William F Buckley Jr

Posted on 05/20/2003 10:20:09 PM PDT by Utah Girl

The story featuring the grandmother in New York City who at age 19 sported about with President Kennedy is attracting about as much attention as the proverbial "Small Earthquake in Chile." There is this difference: When small earthquakes are reported, they aren't met with smiles and half-giggles. — There goes Talcahuano again! is met with fatalistic acceptance of fractious acts of nature. What we got in the matter of the grandmother was Tee Hee time, led by Nora Ephron in the New York Times.

The tone of her op-ed tells it all, the accepted view of presidential intern-sex by worldly Americans. Ms. Ephron begins her story by saying that there was no desk, in the presidential press office of Pierre Salinger, for her to sit at. She repeats that several times, to suggest the aimlessness of her mission in the White House. But did she spend any time with him? Just 15 seconds in the Oval Office, when introduced. Ten seconds outside the Oval Office when JFK was heading for the helicopter. What he said in greeting, as he passed by, she couldn't hear, for the noise of the rotor blades. It was not, as far as she could tell, a summons to his bed that night. Indeed, Ms. Ephron wondered why she hadn't been invited to a stall in his harem, wonders whether it's because she was Jewish: " — don't laugh. Think about it, think about that long, long list of women JFK slept with. Were any Jewish? I don't think so."

Maybe that suspicion should have been explored by one of the civil rights acts, demanding that presidential concubinage not discriminate by race, color, creed, or religious affiliation.

But there is just a hint of misgiving in the press. Writing in Time magazine, Hugh Sidey almost edges into wondering whether such exercises in the White House might end as subjects of moral scrutiny. Mr. Sidey was close to the Kennedy circle and he is one of the sensible intelligences in town. The story about the grandmother, back when she was l9 years old working in the White House as a sexual stimulant for the president (she didn't even know how to type), brought Mr. Sidey to reminisce. He met with some old-timers upon the disclosure of the grandmother. They remembered that particular lady, though this took hard concentration, there being so many who passed by. "Some gossip out of an earlier summit in Nassau," Sidey wrote, "was that Kennedy told Macmillan he had to have sex once a day or he would get a headache. This story has been largely discounted, but now" — Sidey the moralist shows signs of life — "but now it has new currency." Are there any consequences to the successive revelations of presidential debauchery? "The steady procession of scandal is nibbling away at his credibility as a leader. The excess, the recklessness of his actions stuns almost everyone. Old gossip gets new legs. . . . [There's] the one about a friend's alluring wife, whom he propositioned at a reception. When she said, 'I'm married,' he replied, 'So am I. What of it? '"

Well, if word of these excesses is really out there nibbling away, herewith my own contribution to that cause.

What John F. Kennedy did was despicable.

Never mind his abstract indifference to adultery. What he did was to seduce a l9-year-old girl working in the White House under his command. A Great King, seeking that day's vessel for his runaway appetite. The commander in chief opportunizing on his rank in order to overwhelm a teenager who, as Sidey reports, was once spotted in the presidential limousine in Bermuda, "sitting on the floor of the car like a child playing hide-and-seek." It is simply disgusting, to use a word which, like virtue, has lost its license.

When Clinton did it, the excuse made its way to dominance that, well, it was his private life, and in any event hardly sufficient grounds for impeachment. In fact (remember?), it was rather fine of him to deny under oath having done it; anybody out there ever heard of noblesse oblige?

It will be interesting to see if there are in fact any consequences to that loss of credibility Hugh Sidey cites. Will they change the name of Avenue John F. Kennedy in Paris? Well, that may be going too far. Change the street's name in . . . Monaco? Vatican City? Rename the airport?

Just how will the touted reduction in reputation reveal itself? Not in historian Robert Dallek's book, which blew the grandmother — he is the most indulgent Camelotian in town, going so far in his book as to express certainty that if JFK had lived, Vietnam would never have happened.

It's bad stuff. Sidey goes all the way, with his mix of disgust and forbearance and a little exploitation of his own, giving as title to his page in Time, "All the Way with J.F.K." You can't go much further.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jfk; mimi; williamfbuckleyjr
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1 posted on 05/20/2003 10:20:11 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
There has never been a president in my lifetime (Eisenhower +) that sold "family man" as did JFK. Kennedy as a President was over rated. His early death has led to a cottage industry of "what ifs".
2 posted on 05/20/2003 10:29:58 PM PDT by socal_parrot (Eat at Joe's)
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To: socal_parrot
Don't forget Camelot. The media and the Left were complicit for years selling the American people the myth of a Kennedy Camelot.
3 posted on 05/20/2003 10:32:37 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
Stories about his drug use and his other private sins need to be made public, not because they are terribly important, but because his enablers saw fit to hide them all these years.

But I am much more interested in tabling a real discussion, finally, about the assassination of President Diem, about the betrayal and subsequent slaughter of the Tibetan Army, and the betrayal of the Eisenhower's Cuban force, abandoned into the waiting hands of Castro's Army. These are subjects we have only barely begun to explore. I would like to see a 10-part miniseries on these aspects of Camelot. Camelot. Thats an Orwellian turn of phrase if ever there were one.
4 posted on 05/20/2003 10:34:33 PM PDT by marron
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To: Utah Girl
SLOB IN THE HAMTONS!!!!!
5 posted on 05/20/2003 10:35:53 PM PDT by RIGHT IN SEATTLE
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To: marron
Good points.
6 posted on 05/20/2003 10:36:06 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: RIGHT IN SEATTLE
Amazing how low class the Democrats are. The Kennedy family, the Clintons, LBJ, Roosevelt.
7 posted on 05/20/2003 10:37:03 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: RIGHT IN SEATTLE
HAMTONS="HAMPTONS"
sorry for the pocket pc stylus!
8 posted on 05/20/2003 10:39:57 PM PDT by RIGHT IN SEATTLE
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To: Utah Girl
I used to think the Democratic Party went the Trailor Park Trash Party recently. Wrong.

Some how honor and decency have evaded them for quite a while.
9 posted on 05/20/2003 10:56:58 PM PDT by lizma
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To: Utah Girl; All
Keep in mind, the Kennedy family has allowed all this dreadful stuff to be said about their family member for only one purpose - to rescue the legacy of x42.

If anybody's disgraceful, the Kennedy's are.
10 posted on 05/20/2003 11:09:53 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: Utah Girl
Another case of a Democrat having sex in a federal workplace with a powerless subordinate during office hours. Sounds more like sexual harassment than someone's "private life". ("Private life" is what you do with actresses at Peter Lawford's house when you're out there visiting your sister while your wife is away.)

Once again, the best book on Kennedy remains, "A Question of Character" by Reeves. Out of print, but worth the alibris.com search.

11 posted on 05/20/2003 11:17:36 PM PDT by MHT
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To: Utah Girl
Camelot Came-a-lot. What a disgusting legacy.
12 posted on 05/21/2003 3:17:21 AM PDT by Claire Voyant ((visualize whirled peas))
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To: Utah Girl
Some of them are White Trash...some of them are Gold Trash, but they are ALL Trash.
13 posted on 05/21/2003 3:18:55 AM PDT by Claire Voyant ((visualize whirled peas))
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To: Claire Voyant
Clinton is a gift from God to conservatives for revealing the truth of the past.

The shameless, transparent deceit and lust for power of the Democrats have revealed the modern history of America for what it was - a damnable lie.

Think of the media fawning over Kennedy, and the cover-up of his criminal deeds and deep personal failings.

The legendary Cuban crisis was resolved only with the cover-up of the killing of an American U2 pilot shotdown by the Cubans, and the shameless, face-saving backroom deal to remove Turkish weapons in exchange.

The Nixon crisis was orchestrated by Hillary Rodham and the Leftist media on the attack, including the severely-biased but (at the time) respected Walter Cronkite, using those infamous, anonymous sources. Much, if not all of the whole affair was a complete fabrication and distortion.

Virtually every Republican President has been portrayed by the media as awkward and stupid, including football star Ford, Reagan, and our current trained jet pilot, world-class athlete and Harvard MBA, President George W. Bush.

Immoral, indecent, criminal and even wheelchair bound Presidents of Democratic persuasion have always been shielded by the Leftist media.

Hollyweird continues today to overtly and covertly support the Democratic, anti-American, Marxist line, in the same way as it has for generations. Nearly every major American movie and television series of the past, on current viewing, has some embedded cheapshot directed at conservative, Republican, American values that makes them nearly unviewable today.

The Socialist Left needs to be destroyed.

14 posted on 05/21/2003 4:28:05 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (To smash the ugly face of Socialism is our mission)
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To: CyberAnt; Joy Angela; conservogirl; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; flamefront; Carl/NewsMax
...Wouldn't a TED KENNEDY who is so willing to expose his own brother JFK to public shame just to buttress HILLARY's Return to the White House...

...do all that he could to stop JFK jr's determination to run against HILLARY for the New York Senate Seat..?
15 posted on 05/21/2003 4:47:12 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com..)
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To: Utah Girl
Shades of the old Buckley in this column. Great to see some of that energy again.
16 posted on 05/21/2003 4:59:30 AM PDT by speedy
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To: socal_parrot
His early death has led to a cottage industry of "what ifs".

None would have been as bad as the reality.

17 posted on 05/21/2003 5:03:57 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (WWJCD? What would Jeff Cooper do?)
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To: CyberAnt
To think, my 8th grade history teacher worshiped JFK. I can remember what she said, what the media said and what the community said. I've learned to trust my community more than any thing.
18 posted on 05/21/2003 5:20:14 AM PDT by oyez (Is this a great country or what?)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Hmmm ... Thanks for the heads up!
19 posted on 05/21/2003 6:48:19 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Enduring Freedom
Very well put and well summarized. You've nailed it precisely. (... well except the part about the gift from God :) )
20 posted on 05/21/2003 6:54:06 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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