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VIDEO: CNN Fraudulent Assault Rifle Test (Compare The Muzzles Firing)
Media Research Center ^ | May 20, 2003

Posted on 05/21/2003 4:59:45 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

Check out this VIDEO of the FRAUDULENT Assault Rifle Test perpetrated by CNN last week. I urge all of you to COMPARE the muzzles of both assault rifles as they are fired. In the illegal assault rifle you can clearly see smoke exiting as if real bullets are being fired. In the second assault rifle which is described as the legal one, you see NO expulsion of fumes from the assault rifle. Were blanks used in the second rifle? You be the judge but I sure would like to see this matter investigated further. BTW, did you see how large that pile of cinder blocks was? NO WAY that Deputy Sheriff Chris Worth could have missed that large pile as was absurdly claimed.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assaultrifles; bang; banglist; cnn; sheriffkenken; waynelapierre
Here is the comment on the muzzle analysis by the Media Research Center:

Upon looking at the MRC videotape frame by frame, with the first rifle you could see a puff of smoke coming out of the end of the barrel as the deputy fired. But with the second gun, you could not see anything, as if no bullet were being fired.

1 posted on 05/21/2003 4:59:47 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: *bang_list
Bang!

Just watched it.

Outrageous.

2 posted on 05/21/2003 5:04:23 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: PJ-Comix
As long as we're on the topic of the Media Research Center and falsified TV reports, recall this comment just last week on how the Jayson Blair/New York Times type of fabrication “is much less likely to happen” in broadcast journalism.

How prophetic.

-PJ

3 posted on 05/21/2003 5:08:11 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: PJ-Comix
Well, the camera angle for the second firing has the light wall in the background, so I couldn't see any smoke. The compression is high- the quality is ppor. If one saw the original videotape then you could probably see quite well.
4 posted on 05/21/2003 5:11:06 PM PDT by visualops
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To: visualops
Here is the frame by frame analysis of the videotape by the Media Research Center:

Upon looking at the MRC videotape frame by frame, with the first rifle you could see a puff of smoke coming out of the end of the barrel as the deputy fired. But with the second gun, you could not see anything, as if no bullet were being fired.

5 posted on 05/21/2003 5:14:52 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (He Who Laughs Last Was Too Dumb To Figure out the Joke First)
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To: PJ-Comix; All
Let's add some relevant links to flesh out the story:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/915473/posts
Florida: Broward sheriff's role in CNN gun show upsets NRA ["honest misunderstanding"]
Sun-Sentinel ^ | May 21, 2003


http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=16124
CNN 'backpedals' on gun story -Admits it misled viewers in comparing different types of weapons
Source: World Net Daily
URL Source: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp? ARTICLE_ID=32677
Published: May 20, 2003
There is nothing new about this. Back when CNN was lying about the "Operation Tailwind" thing we caught them rigging their own gun control polls. They would continue to run polls asking loaded questions to try and get a majority calling for more gun laws,and they had to keep taking the polls down for "technical reasons" when they didn't get the numbers they wanted. They finally resorted to putting one poll back up after "fixing the software glitch",and the buttons for "yes" and "no" were reversed. A "no" vote was logged as a "yes" vote.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/915105/posts
CNN 'backpedals' on gun story: Admits it misled viewers in comparing different types of weapons
WorldNetDaily ^ | May 20, 2003
"This story is gathering steam. CNN got caught red-handed perpetrating FRAUD."
You forgot to add the AGAIN....


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/914941/posts
CNN Concedes, Sort of, Distorted "Assault Weapon" Demonstration (CNN Fraud Alert!!!)
Media Research Center ^ | May 20, 2003 | Brent Baker


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/914996/posts
Transcript: Wayne LaPierre (NRA) Accuses CNN Of FRAUD (MUST READ! MUST READ!!!)
CNN ^ | May 16, 2003
Well, it did turn out that CNN FAKED that story. They tried to downplay it yesterday but FRAUD was committed. Please don't let this story of CNN FRAUD fade away!


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/914912/posts
Why No One Shoots Straight on Guns
TimesOnlineEdition ^ | May 20,2003 | Karen Tumulty


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/914823/posts
CNN rapped over gun segment
The Washington Times ^ | 5/19/2003 | Robert Stacy McCain
CNN got busted. They were exposed finally as the liberal liars they are. One of the "call ins" said he doesn't have a gun, won't own one, isn't a member of the NRA but he's making sure all of his friends are watching this controvery unfold. It's a major disaster for CNN and in my opinion, much worse than a writer not knowing which way a house points to a field such as what was written in the New York Times.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/914248/posts
He's fast on draw with message
Seattle Post Intelligencer | May 19, 2003 | Brad Wong


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/914606/posts
Author Accuses Media of Intentional Bias Against Guns
CNSNews.com ^ | 5/20/03 | Jeff Johnson


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/914571/posts
New York Gun Control Alert! Call and Write Your Representatives!
"So now the "ballistic identification" law is going to include shotguns."
Last time I looked there was no rifling in any shotgun I own. But don't expect Schumer and The Worlds smartist woman Hillary to figure that one out...


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/914495/posts
CNN RETRACTS ATTACK ON ASSAULT WEAPONS
Unnamed | therut
Synopsis:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/914495/posts?page=15#15


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/914511/posts
An assault on common sense (about ban an assault weapons)
Townhall.com ^ | May 19, 2003 | Rich Lowry
Only in Washington would it be considered imperative to extend legislation precisely because it's been so ineffectual...
One new horrendous Columbine and your logic flies out the window with RINO spines in congress.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/914165/posts
CNN "Doctoring" of News Re Assault Gun Legislation
Freedomlover's AM Radio | Today | Freedomlover


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/914244/posts
Poe's "Lost Interview" with G. Gordon Liddy on "The 7 Myths of Gun Control"
RichardPoe.com ^ | May 19, 2003 | Richard Poe
"[The Seven Myths of Gun Control] should be in every single home.
6 posted on 05/21/2003 5:22:12 PM PDT by backhoe (What part about "uninfringed" is so hard to understand? The 2nd guards the 1st...)
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To: PJ-Comix
I'm not sure about an AK-47, but an ar-15 needs a blank firing adapter to cycle the action when blanks are used. It is a device which attaches to the muzzle to increase gas pressure.

If blanks were used, there would likely be something over the muzzle.
7 posted on 05/21/2003 5:26:03 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: PJ-Comix
Yes I saw that, I figured they had access to something better than the internet stream :)

Personally, I am very wary of "demonstrations". They all tend to smack of the guy selling the car wax...

8 posted on 05/21/2003 5:34:54 PM PDT by visualops (My tagline better get some Viagra, or I'm gonna have to dump it.)
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To: visualops
Well, the camera angle for the second firing has the light wall in the background, so I couldn't see any smoke.

Agreed, the smoke issue can't be resolved with this video, but clearly nothing was hitting those bricks on the second round of firing. Even a .22 would have created dust and debris.

Notice, also, how the narrator changes the topic from 'firepower' to 'rounds per clip' when talking about the differences between the two guns. This whole video smells rotten.

9 posted on 05/21/2003 5:42:38 PM PDT by randog (It's always darkest before the dawn--a good time to steal the neighbor's newspaper.)
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To: PJ-Comix
Unbelievable! Somebody's trying to rally the sheep!
10 posted on 05/21/2003 5:47:00 PM PDT by warmath
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To: randog
Agreed, the smoke issue can't be resolved with this video, but clearly nothing was hitting those bricks on the second round of firing.

That was a very large pile of cinder blocks. I don't know how that Deputy (Chris Worth) could have missed every shot. Was he ordered to miss?

11 posted on 05/21/2003 5:47:44 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (He Who Laughs Last Was Too Dumb To Figure out the Joke First)
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To: MediaMole
Back in the "Old Corps", a field expedient BFA for an M-16 could be had by firing a blank, racking the operating handle, and catching the spent case. One would then use a bayonet to cut the base off the empty, and then use the bayonet to unscrew the flash hider. You would then put the base, primer side up, on the end of the muzzle, and screw the flash hider back down. One would then point the weapon in a safe direction and use another blank to blow out the primer, and the restriction of the flash hole was enough to cycle the action. Since we were the first squad of the 2nd platoon, we always got to be the Aggressors, and probably fired 10 times the blanks of the rest of the Battalion.

(If you forgot and fired a live round, you caught the bolt carrier group under the right eye...)

12 posted on 05/21/2003 5:48:29 PM PDT by jonascord (Aim for the Face!)
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To: dd5339
CNN at it again (like this is really news!)
13 posted on 05/21/2003 6:15:38 PM PDT by cavtrooper21 ("..he's not heavy, sir. He's my brother...")
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To: cavtrooper21
Date-li"e"-ne rides again!

Sherrie Jenne is a democrat?
15 posted on 05/21/2003 6:45:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: PJ-Comix
It looked to me like the recoil on the deputy was real. If You notice the muzzle on each rifle the first one had the original model compensator. The original model was pretty much nothing at all or a slant to decrease muzzle climb. All the gas goes out the muzzle except the stuff used to cycle the weapon. The second rifle had the AK-74 stlye compensator. This is consider by many to be the best compensator in the world (maybe excluding the browning BOSS although that has more to do with tuning bullets to the rifle). Gas is channeled out the sides as well as the front. This could be an explanation why you can not see smoke from the muzzle. Mind you this is a muzzle compensator which is designed to make recoil push straight back instead of making the muzzle climb or come off target as opposed to a muzzle brake which catches some of the gas pulling the rifle forward somewhat to decrease recoil. That being said I think this deputy intentionally missed and CNN then intentionally showed the bricks to make it appear as though the bullets did no damage.
16 posted on 05/21/2003 6:55:32 PM PDT by Orwellian
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To: Orwellian
That being said I think this deputy intentionally missed and CNN then intentionally showed the bricks to make it appear as though the bullets did no damage.

That was a pretty big pile of cinder blocks. Very hard to miss. And if the deputy did miss, then it should have been mentioned in the original report and not implied that the bullets did no damage to the cinder blocks.

17 posted on 05/21/2003 6:59:47 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (He Who Laughs Last Was Too Dumb To Figure out the Joke First)
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To: JournalJunkie
Problem is, the retraction is not publicized as well as the original story, so most of the sheeple never see it. Which is almost as good as not having made one.... Which means they get away with lying. Like they lose any sleep over that!
18 posted on 05/21/2003 7:07:26 PM PDT by cavtrooper21 ("..he's not heavy, sir. He's my brother...")
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To: PJ-Comix
I think this is intentionally misleading (the report). That deputy hit the trauma plate on the vest three for three. The CNN crew did not pan back from the shooter to show impact like they did with the first rifle. If they did I think the impact on the dirt wall would have been visible. I think this is deliberate fraud. I was just pointing out that it could have been live rounds and not blanks that were fired.
19 posted on 05/21/2003 7:22:20 PM PDT by Orwellian
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To: Orwellian
Without some professional gunsmithing this scene leads me to believe the known Democrat is firing off target. That fact alone is enough to convict CNN of weaselry.
21 posted on 05/21/2003 7:48:23 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus ("...and keep 'em in the Ten Ring.")
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To: randog
Agreed, the smoke issue can't be resolved with this video, but clearly nothing was hitting those bricks on the second round of firing. Even a .22 would have created dust and debris.

Notice, also, how the narrator changes the topic from 'firepower' to 'rounds per clip' when talking about the differences between the two guns. This whole video smells rotten.

You coulld see the muzzle jump with the second gun. I think it was firing live rounds, but apparently not at the cinder blocks. HOWEVER, the narration by the Sheriff says the second gun only has a 10 round magazine (which he incorrectly calls a clip at one point) It looks like a standard 30 round "banana" magazine to me. Unless someone goes to the trouble of making a 10 round magazine from a 30 round one, by welding in some sort of stop so that you can only get 10 rounds in it, the sherrif is full of Shiite. Well even if they do, he still is. On an early thread it was stated that the "Sheriff" (actually EX sheriff) was appointed by Governor Bush's predecessor. In Texas we elect our sheriffs, and in states that don't it's usually the county board or court (whatever the state may call the governing body of the county) that hires the sheriff. The ex sheriff was some kind of political bigwig in the state legislature before becoming sheriff. Naturally, the ex governor and the ex sheriff are 'Rats.

23 posted on 05/21/2003 8:36:58 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: PJ-Comix
One thing that hasn't been discussed is the Sheriff's department and CNN knew they were going to film a difference in power between two rifles with identical barrel lengths and calibers or else they would never have been there in the first place.

The Sheriff and his deputies know enough about firearms and they set up a fraud. The reporter and the crew were told enough information about the two identical rifles and they were able to film the fraud that they wanted.

This wasn't a case of a mistaken film sequence. This was a premeditated fraud.

The reporter, his crew and his boss should be fired immediately.

The Sheriff and his deputies should be fired for the fraud and their inability to testify in a court of law. If I was an opposing lawyer, I would use this to indict the Sheriff's department every time I went up against one of them in a courtroom.
24 posted on 05/21/2003 8:57:04 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Good points.
25 posted on 05/21/2003 9:13:48 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: PJ-Comix
CNNLIES

Lies bigtime. Another day, another lie, or two!

26 posted on 05/21/2003 9:33:37 PM PDT by timestax
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To: PJ-Comix
What a pantload! The deputy missed the blocks on purpose, probably on instruction from the sheriff (an ex-Democrat legislator no less).

Fraud, just what you'd expect from CNN and a Democrat.

27 posted on 05/21/2003 9:47:43 PM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: PJ-Comix
With the second rifle he never hit the blocks with any rounds.

Which is why they would not show what it would do on the vested test dummy.


28 posted on 05/21/2003 10:12:39 PM PDT by Kay Soze (France helped Osama Bin Laden kill 3,000 US citizens in New York on Sept 11,2001.)
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To: PJ-Comix
GD were is the shovel alert!
So much BS came out of my speakers & monitor. It’ll take a day to shovel it all out! ;)
29 posted on 05/21/2003 10:38:02 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: Orwellian; AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; harpseal; Shooter 2.5; The Old Hoosier; ..
For those who haven't yet seen it, here is a link to a portion of the CNN propaganda video from last week which has the deputy intentionally missing the cinderblocks when firing the AK variant not covered by the much-ballyhooed 1994 AW ban.

Orwellian's comments in post #16 are spot-on about the lack of muzzle flash when the second AK variant is fired -- it's due to the compensator that the first rifle lacked.


30 posted on 05/22/2003 6:29:38 AM PDT by Joe Brower (http://www.joebrower.com/)
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To: MediaMole
If blanks were used, there would likely be something over the muzzle.

There are blank adapters that are concealable, such as those used in movie studios. Those big red clunky things they gave us in the military were supposed to be clunky and visible.

31 posted on 05/22/2003 7:00:37 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Joe Brower
bttt
32 posted on 05/22/2003 7:24:05 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Orwellian
That being said I think this deputy intentionally missed and CNN then intentionally showed the bricks to make it appear as though the bullets did no damage.

Clearly, he either intentionally missed, or CNN used tape of the cinderblocks before the deputy started firing and then overdubbed the audio to make it appear that no damage was being done.

33 posted on 05/22/2003 7:29:38 AM PDT by wysiwyg
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To: Joe Brower; Orwellian; AAABEST; wku man; sit-rep; Travis McGee; Squantos; harpseal; Shooter 2.5; ...
I am not certain if this is the same clip I saw last week, but I happened to surf onto CNN at the time the story was aired. I did not see the first weapon fired, but saw them shoot a second. My impression was they hit the reinforcing web inside the concrete block. Maybe not, but it sure looked like the first rounds hit about 1/4 of the way along the block and the second set hit right in the middle where the web would be.
34 posted on 05/22/2003 7:45:13 AM PDT by SLB
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To: Joe Brower
Sometimes the footage has to be doctored(edited) to fit the desired agenda.
35 posted on 05/22/2003 8:03:01 AM PDT by oyez (Is this a great country or what?)
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To: longtermmemmory
Jenne was far more than a Demorat. He was the LEAD Demorat in Florida before becoming the traitor to justice and America that he is.
36 posted on 05/22/2003 8:41:23 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (If the 2nd is for hunting, is the 1st only for writing about hunting?)
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To: wysiwyg
No way that Deputy could have missed if he was really trying. That pile of cinder blocks was very large. Plus he hit every round from the first rifle into just one cinder block. Deputy's name is Chris Worth. It would be interesting for some ENTERPRISING REPORTER to contact Deputy Worth to get more information on this incident.
37 posted on 05/22/2003 8:44:50 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (He Who Laughs Last Was Too Dumb To Figure out the Joke First)
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To: Shooter 2.5
If I was an opposing lawyer, I would use this to indict the Sheriff's department every time I went up against one of them in a courtroom.

Good point. If Sheriff Ken-Ken is willing to commit fraud on national TV then defense lawyers will contend that Sheriff Ken-Ken won't hesitate to commit fraud with court evidence. I can see the defense lawyers motions already using this videotape to prove that Sheriff Ken-Ken is willing to participate in fraud. BTW, Sheriff Ken-Ken already got himself in trouble before over FRAUDULENT charges agaisnt the Sun Cruz Casino gambling boat. He shut down their operations because he claimed they commenced gambling before they reached the three-mile limit. Later it was demonstrated that charge was utter BS.

38 posted on 05/22/2003 8:51:39 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (He Who Laughs Last Was Too Dumb To Figure out the Joke First)
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To: El Gato
The ex sheriff was some kind of political bigwig in the state legislature before becoming sheriff. Naturally, the ex governor and the ex sheriff are 'Rats.

Unfortunately Sheriff Ken-Ken (5'2" in elevator shoes) isn't an ex-sheriff. He is the CURRENT sheriff of Broward County. And a very POWER-HUNGRY Sheriff at that. Sheriff Ken-Ken is currently trying to take over the Fire Department here as well.

39 posted on 05/22/2003 8:55:50 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (He Who Laughs Last Was Too Dumb To Figure out the Joke First)
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To: jonascord; AAABEST
Jonas has described how we did the BFA thang also. We used this method on our M60's and 16's albeit our M14's and Ma Duce didn't play well with this method of improvised better way to do it.

I haven't the time or stomach to watch the clip (dial up) so I'll ask if anyone noted a brake versus a flash supressor remembering that the "wilson" brake is identical to the bird cage GI version flash supressor. One will get a different "visual signature" from rifles equipped with such.

Anyone ask Jeb Bush why he's allowing a sheriff to use county employees to mislead the sheeple and lie to those who really know the answers already ?

Stay Safe !

40 posted on 05/22/2003 9:42:54 AM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: PJ-Comix
isn't an ex-sheriff. He is the CURRENT sheriff of Broward County.

My mistake, repeating something I'd read elsewhere w/o checking. But in that case, since he was appointed by the previous governor, can he be fired by the current one?

Checking his office webpage I see that he was indeed appointed by the previous governor, and that his only real experience in law enforcement, prior to being appointed as sherrif, other than as a prosecutor, was as an Army Reserve MP of some sort, which he retired from as a Sergeant Public Safety Supervisor (E-5, the lowest NCO rank, seems kind of a low rank to retire with, even, or maybe especially, in the reserves)

41 posted on 05/22/2003 9:46:23 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: PJ-Comix
Incredible!
42 posted on 05/22/2003 11:07:21 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: PatrioticAmerican
just a quick question: If Jenne was the "lead" democrat in Florida, does this not automatically mean he was already the traitor to justice and America that he is to this day?
43 posted on 05/22/2003 12:51:46 PM PDT by demosthenes the elder (If *I* can afford $5/month to support FR: SO CAN YOU)
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To: Orwellian
good analysis.
44 posted on 05/22/2003 1:04:29 PM PDT by demosthenes the elder (If *I* can afford $5/month to support FR: SO CAN YOU)
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To: demosthenes the elder
That's a QUESTION? Hell, I thought that was a GIVEN!
45 posted on 05/22/2003 1:53:16 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (If the 2nd is for hunting, is the 1st only for writing about hunting?)
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To: PatrioticAmerican
so do I, thus my minor confusion as to the meaning of your original post to which I replied. thanks for the clarification. we are on the same page.
46 posted on 05/22/2003 3:05:46 PM PDT by demosthenes the elder (If *I* can afford $5/month to support FR: SO CAN YOU)
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