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Democrats troubled by White House effort to develop tactical nuclear weapons
Agence France-Presse | 5/22/03

Posted on 05/22/2003 2:59:16 AM PDT by kattracks

Leading Democrats in Congress expressed grave reservations about Bush administration attempts to create a new class of nuclear weapons that could be used on the battlefield.

The move by the White House to explore developing low-yield nuclear weapons sparked a revolt among senior Democrats in the US Senate, who pointed out that, while valued for their deterrent effect, nuclear weapons have long been considered off-limits for tactical military use.

"For the past nine or ten years, we've had a prohibition in law against the research and development," Senator Carl Levin said Wednesday at a press conference.

But the US Senate voted late Tuesday to lift that ban, acceding to White House wishes. Michigan Democrat Levin called the development "reckless and dangerous."

"The message from this administration (is) while we're telling everybody else don't go down that road, we are going to go down that road ourselves," he said.

Senator Dianne Feinstein said countries around the world were also likely to become alarmed by the development.

"It really says to the world that this nation with the mightiest military, is now going to begin to expand its nuclear weapons."

The controversy over the possible US development of low-yield nuclear weapons came as part of a larger senate debate on the 2004 Defense Authorization Bill that would give the Pentagon 400 billion dollars to fund military operations and modernize its arsenal.

The senate rejected an amendment by Feinstein that would have kept the decade-old ban on low-yield nuclear weapons in place -- a development that unleashed both heated defense and furious denunciations of the administration's defense and security policies from the senate floor.

Opponents warned Wednesday that introducing such weapons could trigger a dangerous new nuclear arms race.

"Do you know what the message is to India, to Pakistan, to North Korea -- to every other nation that wants nuclear weapons and has nuclear weapons?" said Senator Byron Dorgan.

"The message is, this country doesn't think that we ought to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons, or that we ought to prevent the use of nuclear weapons.

"That is exactly the wrong message this country ought to be sending anybody in the rest of the world," the North Dakota Democrat said.

The comments by Dorgan and other Democratic colleagues were mild compared to those of West Virginia Senator Robert Byrd, who issued a scathing denunciation of White House military and diplomatic policy, accusing the Bush administration of "prevarication and the reckless use of power," during the recently-concluded war in Iraq.

Supporters of developing, or at the very least researching, the use of such weapons, maintained nuclear devices may one day prove to be an important weapon and that revoking the ban was necessary to combat new security threats around the world.

"We need to be thinking about what we want the military to look like 20 or 30 years down the road," said Colorado Senator Wayne Allard, who argued that a modern military needs to have at its disposal the broadest possible range of weapons.

Feinstein, while vowing to continue to fight, warned that the weapons seem headed toward certain development in the absence of a public outcry against them. She explained the lack of public outrage on the after effects of the September 11, 2001 terror attack on New York and Washington, which traumatized the entire nation.

"I sometimes think that the wound was so deep from 9/11, and it presented such deep scar tissue on the American psyche," Feinstein said, "that it kind of opened to door to all kinds of things that the American people would not have supported before."

Nevertheless, "some of us decided that we're going to fight and try to raise the warning flag," she said.

Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy lamented the "very deep division that exists in this country about the radical departure of this administration in terms of nuclear policy."

"We are going to do everything we possibly can ... to halt this reckless escalation of the nuclear arms race," said the Democrat.



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"I sometimes think that the wound was so deep from 9/11, and it presented such deep scar tissue on the American psyche," Feinstein said, "that it kind of opened to door to all kinds of things that the American people would not have supported before."

It's generally referred to as a wake up call, Ms Feinstein.

Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy lamented the "very deep division that exists in this country about the radical departure of this administration in terms of nuclear policy."

The deep division, between those of us who want to see that America has the means to protect itself against terrorists and rogue countries who never have and never will "follow the rules", and the Dems, who have never considered the protection of the US as a priority.

"We are going to do everything we possibly can ... to halt this reckless escalation of the nuclear arms race," said the Democrat.

But only in the US.

1 posted on 05/22/2003 2:59:17 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
"I sometimes think that the wound was so deep from 9/11, and it presented such deep scar tissue on the American psyche," Feinstein said, "that it kind of opened to door to all kinds of things that the American people would not have supported before."

Nevertheless, "some of us decided that we're going to fight and try to raise the warning flag," she said.


And that flag would be Green with "Praise Allah" written in white?
2 posted on 05/22/2003 3:04:37 AM PDT by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: tet68
This story makes me laugh... I love the way it implies Tac-Nucs are some new and scary idea. Puuleeess! We have nuclear artillary shells for crying out loud. If they want to design a newer safer version of some current inventory weapons then why stop them?
3 posted on 05/22/2003 3:22:29 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: kattracks
To reiterate:

Rumsfeld: It's not to develop. It's not to deploy. It's not to use. It's to study.
Rumsfeld: We don't know. That's why we want to study it. And we're kind of inclined to think that the idea that we should not be allowed to study such a weapon is not a good idea. We think it -- for one thing, I -- and then I'll ask Dick to comment on the possible use against, for example, chemical or biological storage areas, where a conventional weapon could have a disastrous effect and a low-yield nuclear weapon conceivably could have an effect that would be -- that would mitigate some of the problems with a conventional weapon. But the -- it's important to appreciate that to the extent the United States is prohibited from studying the use of such weapons -- for example, for a deep earth penetrator -- the effect in the world is that it tells the world that they're wise to invest in going underground. And that's not a good thing, from our standpoint.
Rumsfeld: I don't want to prolong this, but it is terribly important that people not hype this and create misimpressions in the public about it by misusing words or being imprecise in the use of words, and saying things like "pursue," which you did. We should be very precise as a to what it is. It is a study. It is nothing more and nothing less. And it is not pursuing, and it is not developing, it is not building, it is not manufacturing, it is not deploying, and it is not using.
4 posted on 05/22/2003 3:25:28 AM PDT by visualops (My tagline better get some Viagra, or I'm gonna have to dump it.)
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To: kattracks
The Democrats only want America disarmed. Even Di-Fi knows 9-11 hit a nerve with Americans but she and her party won't recognize we live in a dangerous world and that we need to be prepared for all eventualities. Its telling our opponents lost the battle on Star Wars. They'll lose it as well on the development of tactical battlefield weapons and they'll be trusted even less by the American people when it comes to our national security. I say let them bring it on.
5 posted on 05/22/2003 3:28:08 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: kattracks
Moral of the story:

Democrats prefer keeping things as they are....That is, they prefer using huge nukes on cities filled with civilians rather than using small nukes on the battlefield.

Have they no consciences?

6 posted on 05/22/2003 3:33:56 AM PDT by syriacus (If the NY Times is hiring a Jayson Blair replacement, Michael Moore could fill his boots.)
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No, especially if they think they are going to lose an election over it. Anything to get re-elected including having citizens die. Screw the American people.
7 posted on 05/22/2003 3:40:24 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: syriacus; JohnHuang2; Howlin
Have they no consciences?

No. Democrats have no substance of note. They are straw scarecrows living in straw houses surrounded with the straw dogs they use to protect their hollow strawlike ideology, which they use to suck nourishment produced by the labor and investment of others. If we aren't careful, their undefended, poorly built straw houses will ignite and set everything on fire.

8 posted on 05/22/2003 3:54:57 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: kattracks

Drop a tac-nuke down a rathole, you gotta lotta dead rats.

(..or was it "bugs"? What's the dif... *grin*)

9 posted on 05/22/2003 4:22:21 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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"For the past nine or ten years, we've had a prohibition in law against the research and development," Senator Carl Levin said Wednesday at a press conference."

Gee, Carl, doesn't that coincide with the approximate time you Dims took over the Executive Branch and the Defense Dept? It looks like "W" and Rummy are still working to clean up the mess you left. You didn't "get it" then, and you don't "get it" now.

10 posted on 05/22/2003 4:43:26 AM PDT by Reo
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To: kattracks
"The message from this administration (is) while we're telling everybody else don't go down that road, we are going to go down that road ourselves," he said.

Senator Dianne Feinstein said countries around the world were also likely to become alarmed by the development.

In the 14 years that we have had our nuclear arms development branch closed, Russia has not closed theirs. It seems the only thing the disarmament treaty did is disarm us! If we run down that road fast enough, we might just catch up with the rest of the pack.

Feinstein is pretty stupid along with the rest of the RATS. They do not care about Americas Defense, they do not even bother to check the facts, before shooting off their mouths. Is disarming America good for a sound byte? By all means sell your soul for air time! I just would not mind so much if they were not selling us out at the same time.

You know, for a hundred grand a year plus job, one would think they should do their homework before sounding off using their office as a soapbox.

11 posted on 05/22/2003 4:52:25 AM PDT by American in Israel (Right beats wrong)
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"I sometimes think that the wound was so deep from 9/11, and it presented such deep scar tissue on the American psyche," Feinstein said, "that it kind of opened to door to all kinds of things that the American people would not have supported before."

Feinstein, you have been asleep. So had the American people. They woke up when someone murdered 3000 of us. God knows, you socialists are trying to put them back to sleep with bread and circus, but so far they're still awake.

We support defending ourselves now. We didn't before.

12 posted on 05/22/2003 4:54:48 AM PDT by RockBassCreek
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To: visualops
Wasn't it CNN's Jamie MacIntyre (sp) who got his ears boxed for this? Appalling to think that people who make their living with words, either written and/or spoken, have to have the meaning of the word study explained to them, and not just once but again and again. Sheesh!
13 posted on 05/22/2003 4:57:17 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: kattracks
Democrat response:

We are concerned...... we are saddened..... we are deeply concerned..... we are deeply saddened.

14 posted on 05/22/2003 4:58:06 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: piasa
Democrats have no substance of note. They are straw scarecrows living in straw houses surrounded with the straw dogs they use to protect their hollow strawlike ideology, which they use to suck nourishment produced by the labor and investment of others

Great image!

I can picture the porkers, like Byrd, in the setting you have described.

15 posted on 05/22/2003 6:16:58 AM PDT by syriacus (If the NY Times is hiring a Jayson Blair replacement, Michael Moore could fill his boots.)
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To: kattracks
Senator Dianne Feinstein said countries around the world were also likely to become alarmed by the development.

And who would have thought a democrat would come up with the primary reason to get this project going!

16 posted on 05/22/2003 6:27:00 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: kattracks
50 quotes from Democrats and one quote from a Republican.

Yeah, the media is "right wing."
17 posted on 05/22/2003 6:36:19 AM PDT by Guillermo (Proud Infidel)
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To: kattracks
"Do you know what the message is to India, to Pakistan, to North Korea -- to every other nation that wants nuclear weapons and has nuclear weapons?" said Senator Byron Dorgan.

As a matter of fact Senator, yes I do......

Screw up you a-holes and your toast!

18 posted on 05/22/2003 6:42:59 AM PDT by b4its2late
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To: TalonDJ
The democrats are more worried about appeasing terrorists and their rights than keeping America strong.... It's sickening and hopefully the majority of Americans will see through their BS.
19 posted on 05/22/2003 6:44:43 AM PDT by b4its2late
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To: kattracks
"For the past nine or ten years, we've had a prohibition in law against the research and development," Senator Carl Levin said Wednesday at a press conference.

Times are changin', Carl. See us pulling out of Saudi and Germany? See us dumping France for Spain and Canada for Bulgaria? Notice Saddam and the Taliban are gone? Notice North Korea reniged on their deal? Notice Turkey being a bunch of twits? Notice that hole in New York City where a certain pair of buildings used to be?

"The message from this administration (is) while we're telling everybody else don't go down that road, we are going to go down that road ourselves," he said.

Oh, so if we just tell terrorists not to use nukes, they won't? Oh wow, why didn't we try that first???

20 posted on 05/22/2003 6:45:31 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Let them eat cake.)
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