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To: cgk
Medical experts say carrying the pregnancy to full-term would be dangerous for her and may result in the baby being deformed. The mother of the woman asked for the pregnancy to be terminated.

"My main concern now is my daughter, she told the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. "When I heard that heartbeat, you will never know what it did to me. But I can't be asked to choose between my grandchild or my daughter."

It obviously did NOTHING to you, you soul-less wench. How would carrying a baby to full-term by a mentally disabled woman cause the baby to be DEFORMED? There are tests for these things - and available now if they baby is 23 weeks old. And all that would/should tell these people is what to be prepared for when the baby is born - which could be delivered by C-section. This is an outrage. ADOPTION is ALWAYS A CHOICE.

5 posted on 05/23/2003 5:06:19 PM PDT by cgk (It is liberal dogma that human life is an accident - Linda Bowles (r.i.p.))
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A Miami judge has ruled a mentally disabled rape victim should have an abortion because the pregnancy could be life-threatening, according to local press reports.
The woman, whose identity is not being revealed, is mentally retarded with the cognitive abilities of a 4-year-old, deaf, prone to having seizures and has a shunt in her brain to drain excess fluid.

What is not reported in this article is the bias of the judge, if liberal bias, killing the uborn is a 'simple solution' regardless of the fact that this sensing baby will likely be dismembered for removal! I'm wondering if, since she is to have two medical procedures which require anesthesia, why she cannot have a C-section to save the life of the already alive and apparently healthy baby? I smell a deadly agenda here! I personally cite only to save the life of the woman as reason to terminate a pregnancy, but even then, if it is possible to save both alive beings, why not do so? [An before some fool leftists jumps on me for supporting pregnancy continuing in cases of rape, know this: I'm 57 and I was conceived when my blessed Mother was forced to have sex. My Mother did not have me killed since I was not the beast that committed a crime.]

7 posted on 05/23/2003 5:17:55 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: cgk
Adoption is not ALWAYS a choice. You have no idea how severe this woman's seizures are. Or how much fluid needs to be constantly drained from her brain.

The stress of late term pregancy could kill this woman. You want to risk her life to make a point. You are wrong.

Selective cosmectic abortion is wrong, immoral, and should be illegal. That is not the case here. Forget the fact that this woman was raped. Those aren't even the issues here. This woman has severe health problems and could very conceivably die from delivering a child.

I am extremely offended at you for suggesting her mother isn't aching with agony at this decision. There are plenty of black and white cases for you to scream at, but don't you dare scream at her mother. It might make you feel smug to force this woman to give birth, but your smugness won't give this woman her daughter back if the worst happens.

Sorry for this long rant, but I am sick and freak and tired of the extremists on both ends. Those who believe abortion should be used as birth control, and equate it's moral signifigance as to a hangnail procedure, and those who think mentally retarded raped, physically at risk women should be forced to give birth are equal evils.

Pray for this mother, this daughter, and pray to God that this rapist is caught.

9 posted on 05/23/2003 5:22:02 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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Ditto to everything you said.
12 posted on 05/23/2003 5:24:57 PM PDT by A-teamMom
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Careful who you call a soul-less wench. This is a hard situation of lousy circumstances. The medications she is on very well may lead to a deformed baby.

13 posted on 05/23/2003 5:26:33 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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"It obviously did NOTHING to you, you soul-less wench."

It is my opinion that NONE of us has the right to judge this mother's actions. She is in a position that no human should ever have to occupy, and no matter what her (or our) personal beliefs are, she is already going through Hell.

My thoughts are with her, and her daughter. May the child's rapist know the teeth of all the foul Fiends, gnawing him forever.

14 posted on 05/23/2003 5:27:56 PM PDT by Long Cut (ORION Naval Aircrewman!)
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Medications she may be on may be disabling to the unborn child.

The judge makes these decisions from written reports from doctors that see her.

15 posted on 05/23/2003 5:30:14 PM PDT by Calpernia (The person who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones.)
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This time I can't agree with you. It probably hurt her a lot to make this decision. Imagine a 4 year old going through childbirth. She is not a soul-less anything...she's between a rock and a hard place, and is trying to make the best choice for her daughter under these circumstances.

Epilepsy medications DO cause severe birth defects. And I gather that nobody knew she was pregnant in her crucial first months.

But it is awful that this waited so LONG. This is an almost viable baby now, and if it is not so grossly deformed that it cannot survive, and if the mother's life is not immediately endangered, they are making a terribly, terribly wrong decision.

57 posted on 05/23/2003 6:49:14 PM PDT by ChemistCat (Disney won't see another cent of our money.)
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And the abortion is dangerous itself.
The judge acting like the only danger is
involved in giving birth.
The judge is chosing to ignore the dangers
of abortion. Not just physical but
the serious emotional damages.
The lady does not understand she has a baby
in her and does realize the abortion is
killing the baby.
How about that? She is smarter than the judge!
134 posted on 05/23/2003 9:13:51 PM PDT by Princeliberty
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And all that would/should tell these people is what to be prepared for when the baby is born - which could be delivered by C-section. This is an outrage. ADOPTION is ALWAYS A CHOICE.

You are correct on all counts and I applaud you for the courage to say it. Most, if not all, of the nay-sayers in this thread refuse to admit to the humanity of the child or her mother. Those who concede the species of the unborn child insinuate that the possibility of it being deformed justifies its murder. I find these responses to be as tragic as the original situation.

187 posted on 05/26/2003 5:35:52 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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