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Columnist Baldwin: Choosing Between "R" and "D" Like Choosing Between Pharisees and Sadducees
Chuck Baldwin Ministries ^ | 05-27-03 | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 05/27/2003 3:21:50 PM PDT by Theodore R.

Choosing Between Republicans And Democrats Is Like Choosing Between Pharisees and Sadducees

By Chuck Baldwin

Food For Thought From The Chuck Wagon May 28, 2003 When our Lord walked this earth, there were two major "parties" leading the Jewish people: the Pharisees and the Sadducees. Both of these groups posed major problems for Christ. Furthermore, though each group opposed the other, neither of them represented the truth. We have a very similar situation today in the United States with the two major political parties. In fact, the two major parties are eerily similar to those two problem-groups of Jesus' day.

Pharisees were the "conservatives" of their day. They believed in God and in personal morality. On the other hand, Sadducees were the "liberals" of their day. They were blatantly secular in philosophy and conduct. If they were yet with us today, Pharisees would doubtless feel right at home in the Republican Party, while Sadducees would fit right in with the Democratic Party.

While the Pharisees and Sadducees fiercely fought each other, they were both the enemies of Christ. When it came to supporting error and opposing truth, they were united. The same is true today with the Republican and Democratic parties.

Republicans and Democrats only argue about things that have to do with enriching each party's power and influence. On matters of substance, however, they are mostly united.

For example, neither party gives a flip about what the U.S. Constitution says. The only time they refer to it is when they seek an advantage over the other party. On the whole, elected public officials from both parties take their oath of office about as seriously as a lion takes the hissing of an opossum.

Beyond that, neither party believes in the principle of limited government. The size and scope of the federal government continues to skyrocket regardless of which party is in power. Republicans increase government by incurring debt; Democrats increase government by raising taxes. The result is the same: government gets bigger and bigger, while freedom gets smaller and smaller.

Furthermore, Pharisees and Sadducees alike supported Caesar. In fact, this was one of the central charges against Christ: He was seen as a rebel who refused to acknowledge the divine authority of Caesar. Because of this, Jesus was branded "unpatriotic." This ultimately led to His crucifixion. Conservatives today are doing the same thing.

Anyone who refuses to acknowledge that President Bush has been given divine authority to act outside the U.S. Constitution is branded as unpatriotic or worse. Several conservatives have even gone so far as to call G. W. Bush, "America's King." To them, Bush is Caesar, and America is an empire.

In the meantime, both parties continue to ignore or expunge the principles of truth and righteousness upon which our country was founded. Therefore, choosing between Republicans and Democrats is like choosing between Pharisees and Sadducees.

© Chuck Baldwin

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: democrats; jesus; pharisees; politics; republicans; sadducees
Mr. Baldwin has expanded on the old idea of the late George C. Wallace, who said in 1968 that there was not a "dime's worth" of difference between the two national parties.
1 posted on 05/27/2003 3:21:50 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
Neither know what conservativism is.
2 posted on 05/27/2003 3:24:13 PM PDT by Digger
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To: Digger
..and nether have any COMPETITION.
3 posted on 05/27/2003 3:25:08 PM PDT by Digger
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To: Theodore R.
Chuck, you ignorant fraud!

God requires good and righteous people/nations to oppose evil.

HELLO CHUCK!!! That's us, the good guys!

4 posted on 05/27/2003 3:27:17 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Theodore R.
Interesting story....


5 posted on 05/27/2003 3:28:13 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: Theodore R.
Not a lot of difference in some peoples favorite little pet issues, but on the whole, the gulf has never been greater.
6 posted on 05/27/2003 3:28:47 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Theodore R.
So does this mean that George Bush is Caesar and Suddam Hussein is (was) Christ?
7 posted on 05/27/2003 3:29:14 PM PDT by Grando Calrissian
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To: Grando Calrissian
I think he is saying that secular conservatives regard President Bush in the same light as the Pharisees and Sadducees considered Caesar -- not to be questioned.
8 posted on 05/27/2003 3:35:33 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Grando Calrissian
Chuck the Insane was comparing Bush to the Anti-Christ in his last column.
9 posted on 05/27/2003 3:40:59 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Theodore R.
Anyone who refuses to acknowledge that President Bush has been given divine authority to act outside the U.S. Constitution is branded as unpatriotic or worse.

Baloney.

Several conservatives have even gone so far as to call G. W. Bush, "America's King." To them, Bush is Caesar, and America is an empire.

Who? You don't get any points for playing smack-down with a straw man.

10 posted on 05/27/2003 3:43:59 PM PDT by marron
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To: Theodore R.
Several conservatives have even gone so far as to call G. W. Bush, "America's King." To them, Bush is Caesar, and America is an empire.

WTF???? Who are these conservatives who have coronated GWB as "King George" in the media? God, the New York Times wishes some prominent "neocon" would call him "America's King" - they could generate enough hysteria and column-inches to make the entire world say "Jayson who?" in about three days.

11 posted on 05/27/2003 3:49:49 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC
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To: Theodore R.
Who (I ask in all seriousness) is Chuck Baldwin and why should his opinion be of any concern to me?

12 posted on 05/27/2003 3:53:49 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Ole Okie
He is a minister in the FL Panhandle base in Pensacola. He was formerly in Jerry Falwell's former Moral Majority. He believes that the Bush administration is too liberal.
13 posted on 05/27/2003 4:03:10 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
Yes, but in throwing in the references to Jesus, one could infer that Mr. Baldwin sees Hussein as Christ.
14 posted on 05/27/2003 4:04:55 PM PDT by Grando Calrissian
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To: AmericaUnited
It's good that Mr. Baldwin has a keen sense of proportion.
15 posted on 05/27/2003 4:05:39 PM PDT by Grando Calrissian
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To: Grando Calrissian
In no way would Chuck Baldwin equate Saddam Hussein with Christ. He is referring to the conservative love affair with power and big government instead of constitutional principles.
16 posted on 05/27/2003 4:08:53 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: AmericaUnited
Fraud indeed. I would suggest that the Sads and the Phars represented the law, not the truth. The Torah represented truth. There task was to interpret the pentateuch and older books of the Testament. From such stuff theology is born.

As for Repubs and Dems, Repubs argue that they have BOTH the law and the truth on their side. The Dems can only counter with an antithesis: Hillary Clinton.

17 posted on 05/27/2003 4:12:47 PM PDT by gaspar (`)
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To: Theodore R.
Then why throw in the stuff about the "Pharisees and Sadducees" opposing Christ:

"While the Pharisees and Sadducees fiercely fought each other, they were both the enemies of Christ. When it came to supporting error and opposing truth, they were united. The same is true today with the Republican and Democratic parties. "

In the context of today, the present, 2003, the only issue where both parties have met in agreement (somewhat) is the War with Iraq. The only issue where it can be argued that opponents have been called unpatriotic in opposition is the the War with Iraq.

It seems a stretch to apply Mr. Baldwin's train of logic to government spending, unless it's sensationalistic in nature.

By your reading of the article, I would agree. There is hardly a difference between the two parties when it comes to the dispersal of pork. In my opinion, the article, and by extension, Mr. Baldwin's point, would have greater merit without using the same straw man I see used in a lot of these articles.

18 posted on 05/27/2003 4:18:58 PM PDT by Grando Calrissian
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To: Grando Calrissian
In the context of today, the present, 2003, the only issue where both parties have met in agreement (somewhat) is the War with Iraq. The only issue where it can be argued that opponents have been called unpatriotic in opposition is the the War with Iraq.

Has either party taken a firm stand on the Fourth Amendment?

19 posted on 05/27/2003 4:29:37 PM PDT by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: supercat
Has either party taken a firm stand on the Fourth Amendment?

In context to the Patriot Act, yes. Their stand happens to be firmly against the 4th Amendment.

20 posted on 05/27/2003 4:42:04 PM PDT by Grando Calrissian
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To: Ole Okie
Baldwin is a radio talk show host and alarmist. He believes the war in Iraq was unjust, Bush can be compared to the anti-Christ and is ushering in the New World Order with One World Government, Lott was canned because he was going to bring up a partial-birth abortion ban for a vote, The Bushes and Clintons love each other and set each other up to grab the next election including W. getting ready to hand the presidency to Hillary, Bush's faith-based initiatives are a sinister government plot, etc. I think you get the idea.
21 posted on 05/27/2003 4:44:29 PM PDT by GLDNGUN (.)
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To: Grando Calrissian
In context to the Patriot Act, yes. Their stand happens to be firmly against the 4th Amendment.

Other than the libertarians, is there any party that's generally on the Illinois ballot who seeks to restore the Fourth Amendment?

22 posted on 05/27/2003 4:44:51 PM PDT by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: supercat
There's a good chance there are no viable candidates that would seek to restore the 4th Amendment. When you argue to overturn the drug confiscation laws, you're called a dope smoking junkie. When you argue to overturn sodomy laws, you're called a pedophile or faggot. When you argue to overturn the Patriot Act, you're called unpatriotic. I left the Patriot Act to the end as it pretty much nullified my initial argument against Baldwin, who I still think is a crackpot.
23 posted on 05/27/2003 4:51:45 PM PDT by Grando Calrissian
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To: Grando Calrissian
Yes, but in throwing in the references to Jesus, one could infer that Mr. Baldwin sees Hussein as Christ.

He sees himself as Christ, because he opposes both Republicans and Democrats, his "Pharisees and Saducees".

In reality, he's a blowhard who is admired only by committed third party types.

24 posted on 05/27/2003 5:01:07 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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