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Europe Returning to Pagan Roots
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| May 30, 2003
| Fr. Mike Reilly
Posted on 05/30/2003 9:55:54 PM PDT by Hugenot
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To: tictoc
It's a common ruse for would be tyrants to head for the cover of the pedantic tall weeds when they are in danger of being exposed for what they are.
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posted on
05/31/2003 1:46:23 AM PDT
by
GaConfed
To: ffusco
BTT
To: GaConfed
I gotta brush up on the classics!
Have you seen Titus? Thee doth recommend it though it be not ( hehe) historically accurate. I love Taymor's ability to contemporize the story .
43
posted on
05/31/2003 1:49:50 AM PDT
by
ffusco
(Maecilius Fuscus, Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
To: nopardons
I forgot to add Plague to Juvenal's rant list.
44
posted on
05/31/2003 1:54:35 AM PDT
by
ffusco
(Maecilius Fuscus, Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
To: ffusco
And I have to read further about Juvenal. We brushed over him in a class I had a while back, but in a very superficial manner. Have just started reading Tacitus for the first time since being a student at St. John's College. Had forgotten what a good story teller he was and able to stick to the truth as he knew it at the same time.
Haven't seen Titus yet, but will very soon. Did you see Gods and Generals? If so, what did you think?
45
posted on
05/31/2003 2:02:07 AM PDT
by
GaConfed
To: ffusco
Yes, you did. LOL
You've also managed to leave out Augustus' laws on marriage and office holding.
Ovid's chatty little tome " THE ART OF LOVE "...a cross between Playboy's advice columns ( though his was MUCH less purile and obscene ! )and today's self-help books, is well written, funny, full of some much needed grooming tips for men (wash and brush your teeth before a date, have clean fingernails, etc. ), and still usefull today.
To: GaConfed
Fratre,
It's on my list. I'll ping ya.
47
posted on
05/31/2003 2:10:12 AM PDT
by
ffusco
(Maecilius Fuscus, Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
To: philetus
Carthage was a Phoenician (Middle Eastern) city in North Africa.
Stick to the European pagans.
48
posted on
05/31/2003 2:28:57 AM PDT
by
TheAngryClam
(This space for rent.)
To: Dat
It fell off as areas became more urbane and sophisticated.
Take a look at the coasts of the U.S. and the leftist control of most of our cities and you'll see a similar thing.
There is nothing new under the sun.
49
posted on
05/31/2003 2:31:58 AM PDT
by
TheAngryClam
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To: TheAngryClam
I don't really see the problem- Christianity is just a neutered, tired religion. For a "neutered, tired religion", it sure seems to be breeding prolifically. It is the fastest growing religion on earth currently and is taking China and Russia by storm.
Once, it was like Islam is now, full of fire and passion and global conquest, but now is nothing more than memories.
You mistake Government with Religion. The conquest of Christianity you refer to was the use of the religion as a shield for mans conquest. When the Bible was printed for all to read, that put a stop to it.
I don't really mind, either. The glory of European civilization came from the pagan parts- Rome and Greece, and their rebirth and rejection of Christianity in the Renaissance and Enlightenment .
Perhaps Christianity has been neutered in your heart, but as Aristotle said, "The function of the brain is to lubricate the nose." Romanticizing the past has its place, but reality is a concept too. I kinda think America and Modern Europe, built on the foundation of Christianity has surpassed the toga party and the mad max entertainment business of the ancient world.
What is actually going on is the drawing up of the sides of the battle of Armageddon. You wish to hang with the tree worshipers and the child sacrifice types, I want to hang with the Almighty God. So be it. A man has to do what a man has to do, and eat the consequences of his choices.
To: nopardons
Dear Ovid,
I never thought I'd be scribing this. I was at the games when........; )
51
posted on
05/31/2003 2:32:40 AM PDT
by
ffusco
(Maecilius Fuscus, Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
To: ffusco
I disagree.
I believe that we're in the Silver Age or possibly slightly later. Bush would be a good Vespasian (although hopefully, Bush's plan for Palestine will go over a lot more smoothly than the supression of the Jewish Revolt) after Clinton's Nero, or possibly Trajan.
Our greatest days are behind us, but we don't know it yet, and our arts are in decline. For example, take the Moon landing. It is beyond our capability to repeat without starting from scratch on rocket and craft designs. Have we produced any "Citizen Kane" caliber films lately, or only moody, not-quite works?
I'm a young man, and it's sad to think of the state that my nation will be in within my lifetime. I should probably start learning Chinese, since the Indians speak English anyway.
52
posted on
05/31/2003 2:41:30 AM PDT
by
TheAngryClam
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To: ffusco
Dear suplicant ... I see that you have neglected to reaqd the chapter in my latest book, re : What to do and what NOT to do at the Circus Maximus. When that pretty woman dropped her fan... and you did WHAT ? Oh, and heavily breathing garlic fumes into her face, does NOT an erotic afternoon lead too.Remeber, always chew on some fresh parsley, after your repast, before attempting to seduce.
To: GaConfed
The great days of Athens were long gone before Alexander. They ended with the city's utter defeat in the Peloponnesian War.
After that, it was doomed to be the Boston of the ancient world- full of history, museums, and universities, and little more.
54
posted on
05/31/2003 2:43:27 AM PDT
by
TheAngryClam
(This space for rent.)
To: nopardons
"Great minds...."
55
posted on
05/31/2003 2:47:53 AM PDT
by
ffusco
(Maecilius Fuscus, Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
To: ffusco
Yes. LOL
Actually, I really WAS paraphrasing Ovid, as I nadly translated the Latin, from bits of his " THE ART OF LOVE ". His advice to women, from a man's point of view, naturally, is funny as all get out.
To: TheAngryClam
Holy cow...I nearly wrote Vespasian was Bush in post 37. Clinton was Nero with a sax. And I was thinking earlier this week that The Lunar Landing was a good date for the height of our golden age, after our Punic Wars (ww1-2) and our Bellum Socius (civil war).
57
posted on
05/31/2003 2:55:58 AM PDT
by
ffusco
(Maecilius Fuscus, Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
To: American in Israel
We'll see. I suspect the world will continue long after you and I have left it.
Of course, we could split the difference and have me look forward to Ragnarok, but that's a bit too northern for my tastes.
58
posted on
05/31/2003 2:58:52 AM PDT
by
TheAngryClam
(Nil igitur mors est ad nos neque pertinet hilum/quandoquidem natura animi mortalis habetur)
To: ffusco
So all the talk of Jeb Bush in '08 would be appropriate?
Actually, I somewhat like to hope that we simply need a good Cornelius Sulla to set us right.
Too bad that didn't work so well the first time around.
59
posted on
05/31/2003 3:01:09 AM PDT
by
TheAngryClam
(Nil igitur mors est ad nos neque pertinet hilum/quandoquidem natura animi mortalis habetur)
To: nopardons
Well, let's keep an eye open to welcome scurvy, leprocy and the plague back to the 'hood!
You know ... they've always been messed up over there.
The United Kingdom should become part of our United States. They'd get 10 senators, 50 House Reps, 50 electoral votes. We'd have a combined GDP of $15 billion, we'd have common language, currency, national defense, resource blessings, geographic width, common legal tradition and a legacy of freedom and courage.
Australia, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England and all of Canada west of Quebec. The Maritimes are welcome but the Francophiles can go continental. And we will use the St. Lawrence seaway without tribute.
That's the route the Brits should travel. They can't trust ANY of their "partners" in the EU. The only thing that links the Germans and French is their desire to destroy the UK.
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